Let's make a deal with Ethiopia.

[grandpakhalif]

Oil rich Ogaden or Qaad rich Somaliland? Hmm difficult decision..

They don't even produce khat, Ethiopian farmers do.. Ironically it's a win win situation..

[Cumar-Labasuul]

These koonfurians are clutching at straws really, they talk as if they have control of somaliland still - when the reality is no government official has step foot in somaliland for over 20 years

Furthermore, how would annexing ogaden solve their 4km issue

No one is controlling Somaliland. All Somalia need to do is sign the paper and the deal and transaction is deal.

OK what about this part ^

BTW, who are standing in the way of the ONLF I'll give you a clue: it starts with an 'O' and ends with an 'N'

[Oxidant]

I knew this idea would get great support. It's a great business transaction will basically solves the whole HORN of Africa problems. Any individual with a capitalistic mind would understand their needs to be a trade off for both parties to benefit

[DatBreh]

Think about my proposal

Do you seriously believe if the Ogaden region was to get its independence today it would hand it over to some guy sitting in Villa Somalia?

Those guys who are fighting and dying everyday are fighting for what they call Ogadenia not to join a failed state.

The instability of Somalia has always been caused by the Ogaden. Ethiopia armed USC,SNM and SSDF to help prevent Somalia from ever claiming that land again. So if the Ogaden situation is solved so is the Somalia problem. Ogaden will rejoin Somalia once the problem is settled. They will access to Kismayo and Mogadishu ports in which they can export their natrual resources



Do you not see the Somalia flag in the middle?[/quote]

Bruv go to this website and read their own words - http://www.onlf.org

This but alone says it all.

In 1963, the Ogaden Liberation Front was formed with the intention of continuing the struggle for self-determination and confronting Ethiopian colonialism which had progressed into a settler colonialism in which lands and property were confiscated from the local populations of Ogaden. the OLF started a liberation war which promoted the idea of a "Greater Somalia". This had the effect of creating a public perception which portrayed the Ogaden conflict as a conflict between two states (Somalia & Ethiopia)instead of a struggle for self-determination. The armed struggle which was the only feature of the cause and it's vividity, became seasonal and subject to the preparadness of the millitary of the Somali Republic. Adding to this misrepresentation of the Ogaden cause was the dominance of a "Greater Somalia" school of thought in the Somali Republic. What followed was the creation of a armed front called the Western Somali Liberation Front (WSLF)which was trained and financed by the Somali Republic. This had the effect of further portraying the Ogaden cause and a mere border conflict between two independent states while side stepping the issue of the right to self-determination for the people of Ogaden.

Throughout the campaigns of the OLF & WSLF, the people of Ogaden continued to suffer. In addition to being occupied by Ethiopian colonialist, they had to witness the hijacking of their cause for self-determination by the Government of the Somali Republic and it's transformation into a boundary dispute.

They're fighting for Ogadenia not Somalia.

[udun]

The brother made a good point but I would say the territorial integrity of Somalia is sacred including the self-hating entity called SL We should work on liberating Ogaadeenia and NFD and fullfilling the dream of Somali weyn.

[DisplacedDiraac]

This doesn't make sense at all.

You what to make a deal with Ethiopia that benefits them but not Somalia..

In your stupid little deal.. Ethiopia gets a well needed coastal-line and extra land.. While Somalia gets nothing.. .. Lets keep in mind that the Ogaden region is Somali terrority not a Xabashi one!.. What the fockary..

I'm starting to think this poster is Xabashi..

Are you stupid.

Ogaden is Somali turf, however handing it over to Somalia officially will resolve all problems. Ethiopia has access to the Sea and Somalia holds the Ogaden and it's proud people

It's a fair trade off,

Like I said Ethiopia gets Djbouti iyo Somaliland & a coast.. While Somalia gets nothing 'Like you said Ogaden is Somali turf'!!

Giving away 2 halves of Somalia... Smart man!..
Ps. Djoubti and Somaliland are not Somalia's to give away!

Once again how on earth is the above a fair trade?

[CabdiJimaale]

Why would Ethiopia swap a oil-rich swathe of land inhabited by almost 5 million livestock (who just need to be tamed) for maybe a million at most Idoor and Dir drug addicts?

It has been 20 years and the insurgency is getting stronger. It's impossible to force their will on these people who Somali nationalists. Ethiopia needs to make a trade off,

Two ports for the Ogaden is a fair trade off since they will control the most important gateway in the world.

I don't think you're serious.

What Somali nationalists? Ogaden are just disabled. They're fighting because they're handicaps not because of 'Somali nationalism'. My grandmother used to say she saw cows give birth to people when she was living in Jigjiga and I actually believe her. They even talk like farm animals.

Ethiopia already has access to every port they'd gain in this 'trade off''. They don't have anything to gain. They're trading shit land for shit land and starving people for starving people to throw on top of starving people.

[grandpakhalif]

This can actually be pulled off, the TFG stilll have legal jurisdiction over Waqooyi region and can easily sign that territory over to Ethiopia.

[greenday]

How about we start making deals among ourselves?

[Oxidant]

They're fighting for Ogadenia not Somalia.

That is just politics, they won't come up and say what everyone knows.

ONLF would love to join a stable Somalia, look at during the Ogaden war, numerous people from the Ogaden took up arms and wanted to join Somalia. Also during colonization, they asked the British for them to join Somalia.

Ogaden is the HEART and SOUL of Somali nationalism and pride.

Harrar,
Siad Barre,
Ahmed Gurey's war,
Emir Nuur,
Mohammed bin Abdullah Hassan,
Great poets and leaders.

They would instantly join a stable Somalia without question

[DatBreh]

They would instantly join a stable Somalia without question

Maybe, but anyway Somalia has been dead for 20yrs so its safe to say those fighting today aint fighting to join Somalia.

[GENERAL_SNM]

Allah almighty ensures that xassids never prosper and that is why your crying arse is today owned by a tigre shaft and we are free as a bird.

Btw, if you look at the people who agree with this posters conclusion are the most die hard anti-somaliland posters. Makes you wonder why would they happily allow Somaliland to leave and be annexed by Ethiopia but have problems with it seperating and g its own way. Waa munaafaqin hiding pure tribal hate under Somali nationalism.

[Oxidant]

Like I said Ethiopia gets Djbouti iyo Somaliland & a coast.. While Somalia gets nothing 'Like you said Ogaden is Somali turf'!!

Giving away 2 halves of Somalia... Smart man!..
Ps. Djoubti and Somaliland are not Somalia's to give away!

Once again how on earth is the above a fair trade?

Let's talk serious.

Djibouti is GONE. They have stabbed Somalinmo a whole ago before SNM,USC and SSDF. They were given a chance to join Somalia but opted to be ruled by the French, even when Afar were willingly to join Somalia. And it was Somalia that helped them get their freedom. Djibouti now is filled with Ethiopian whores, Ethiopian truck drivers, alcohol, sin, and White military personal.

Somaliland want to be their own country, but we should not let them go without any benefit. Letting Ethiopia take Somaliland is the best option

ONLF and the people from the Ogaden are fighting Abyssinian colonization, they are under Ethiopia in international law, However with this agreement Ogaden is under Somali control and Ethiopia gets its port,

WIN WIN

[Oxidant]

I don't think you're serious.

What Somali nationalists? Ogaden are just disabled. They're fighting because they're handicaps not because of 'Somali nationalism'. My grandmother used to say she saw cows give birth to people when she was living in Jigjiga and I actually believe her. They even talk like farm animals.

Ethiopia already has access to every port they'd gain in this 'trade off''. They don't have anything to gain. They're trading shit land for shit land and starving people for starving people to throw on top of starving people.

I am dead set serious.

Unlike you, I haven't named any tribe and used vulgar nasty insults. Ogadeni people are proud Somalis and would give their blood to rejoin Somalia.

Ethiopia doesn't have proper access to the sea. They are held hostage to Djibouti port fees and Somaliland weak and non existent infrastructure. If Ethiopia is granted rights over Somaliland they will be able to built what is needed to utilize the port to it's full potential without worrying about ONLF forces

[GENERAL_SNM]

Problem with Darod is they confuse nationalism with tribalism.