There is a lot of confusion and misconceptions about our own understanding of how God created as well as the "theories" of science which imply just that; that they are theories. Still I believe somehow evolution not exactly in the form of Darwin and taught to us and Islam could be compatible. For example we are told of how the older nations were different than us time and time again in the Qur'an. Also, we are told in the Qur'an about how God turned some humans into monkeys for disobeying Him. The point is there is a lot of compatibality between the general nature of what evolution means and Islam but not exactly as the we are from apes theory of modern science which itself is a theory.abdisamad3 wrote:union you do realise that evolution is something that is proven right that is why its just a theory,,,and if your such hardcore evolutionist then tell me what came first birds or the eggs..and why do we still have monkeys today if the monkeys in the past evolved to humans and why dont we see monkeys evolving to humans today,
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I didnt only ask you 2 questions go back and answer the rest as well..and if we as your saying evolved from monkeys or apes what ever you call it where is the profe shouldnt there be millions or hundred thousand's of skeletons around the world..anyway I will repeat my question you didnt answer what did birds evolve to first eggs or bird's and how can you prove this?union wrote:^
I was not being off topic. If you had bothered to read what I wrote, you would realize that it flows with my point. Or perhaps reading comprehension isn't your forte? Your questions indicated a total ignorance of evolution, I don't think you've ever studied biology past middle school, but I answered them nonetheless. I will now re answer your point by point so even you can't gloss over them,
1. " why do we still have monkeys today if the monkeys in the past evolved to humans"
First of all, humans did not evolve from monkeys. We are more closely related to apes than monkeys, but we didn't evolve from apes either. Many million of years ago we shared a common ancestor with modern day gorillas and chimpanzees. However our lineages parted, and one evolved into apes and the other early humans.
2. "why dont we see monkeys evolving to humans today"
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Didn't you know? If you stare at a monkey closely you'll see it slowly transforming into a human.
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yeah voltage we are discussing about darwin style evolutions here and I dont see how you can relate allah punishing some qow from the past and turning them into monkeys with evolution..the evolutionist believe we came from monkeys and they do not believe in god and the idea of allah creating everything they do not believe in the afterlife and the day of reckoning..they believe mother nature created everything and we just happen to be here as the result of evolution..Voltage wrote:There is a lot of confusion and misconceptions about our own understanding of how God created as well as the "theories" of science which imply just that; that they are theories. Still I believe somehow evolution not exactly in the form of Darwin and taught to us and Islam could be compatible. For example we are told of how the older nations were different than us time and time again in the Qur'an. Also, we are told in the Qur'an about how God turned some humans into monkeys for disobeying Him. The point is there is a lot of compatibality between the general nature of what evolution means and Islam but not exactly as the we are from apes theory of modern science which itself is a theory.abdisamad3 wrote:union you do realise that evolution is something that is proven right that is why its just a theory,,,and if your such hardcore evolutionist then tell me what came first birds or the eggs..and why do we still have monkeys today if the monkeys in the past evolved to humans and why dont we see monkeys evolving to humans today,


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abdisamad3, just surrender to the vastness of your ignorance and be silent lest you make yourself appear even more foolish.
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Union: What's your view on Islam and Modernity. How do you think we should interpret our religious texts in the 21st century?
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See what Community Colleges are doing to these kids, thinking that they're great scholars and thinkers.
..ps..Big bang theory is supported in the quran.
If you live in Canada, you should look up for professor Keith Moore's book on Embryology and human development in womb with Quranic verses.
..ps..Big bang theory is supported in the quran.
If you live in Canada, you should look up for professor Keith Moore's book on Embryology and human development in womb with Quranic verses.
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so you just go on the attack mode becouse you cant defend your knew found darwanism.union wrote:abdisamad3, just surrender to the vastness of your ignorance and be silent lest you make yourself appear even more foolish.


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we are discussing about evolution theory here and not the big bang.anilweyne wrote:See what Community Colleges are doing to these kids, thinking that they're great scholars and thinkers.
..ps..Big bang theory is supported in the quran.
If you live in Canada, you should look up for professor Keith Moore's book on Embryology and human development in womb with Quranic verses.
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You don't know shit about evolution. You asked retarded questions like "if monkeys evolved into humans, why are there still monkeys?"abdisamad3 wrote:so you just go on the attack mode becouse you cant defend your knew found darwanism.union wrote:abdisamad3, just surrender to the vastness of your ignorance and be silent lest you make yourself appear even more foolish.![]()














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there is nothing called retarded questions..only retarded answers..you fail again.union wrote:You don't know shit about evolution. You asked retarded questions like "if monkeys evolved into humans, why are there still monkeys?"abdisamad3 wrote:so you just go on the attack mode becouse you cant defend your knew found darwanism.union wrote:abdisamad3, just surrender to the vastness of your ignorance and be silent lest you make yourself appear even more foolish.![]()
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Big bang theory is in the quran
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Union is a one misguided soul
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bro,evolution has no basis in the quran.God created Adam and he was the most handsome human being,few thousand years later God sent prophet Yusuf who was described as someone that was so handsome the women in his masters house slit their fingers instead of the apples when they saw him(in surat yusuf),few thousand years God sent prophet Muhamed and his description still fits that of a really handsom arab or hathramouti.even the ancient roman sculptures(although somewhat idolized) had the features of today's Caucasians.my point is yes some nations lived longer,were taller, or short.but they never looked like a monkey.as far as the Jews that were turned monkeys in some hadith narrations they didn't live to reproduce but died right away(even though angry arab mullas still call them the sons of monkeys and pigsVoltage wrote:There is a lot of confusion and misconceptions about our own understanding of how God created as well as the "theories" of science which imply just that; that they are theories. Still I believe somehow evolution not exactly in the form of Darwin and taught to us and Islam could be compatible. For example we are told of how the older nations were different than us time and time again in the Qur'an. Also, we are told in the Qur'an about how God turned some humans into monkeys for disobeying Him. The point is there is a lot of compatibality between the general nature of what evolution means and Islam but not exactly as the we are from apes theory of modern science which itself is a theory.abdisamad3 wrote:union you do realise that evolution is something that is proven right that is why its just a theory,,,and if your such hardcore evolutionist then tell me what came first birds or the eggs..and why do we still have monkeys today if the monkeys in the past evolved to humans and why dont we see monkeys evolving to humans today,

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I know about the big bang theori sxb..but I asked the darwinist few questions and he couldnt even answer.and got angry,samadoon-waaxid wrote:Big bang theory is in the quran
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Why we must have an angel in our mist. Samadoon-waaxid was apparently with God since the start of creation and can tell us how created everything, so he must have been on his right hand side.
The only way for creationism to be true is for the creator to have set out to deceive us in the most devious and underhand manner. I find it extremely hard to imagine God doing anything like this, especially when he has dictated in his book for humanity to go forth and learn about the natural world so we can behold the wonders of the universe.
The only way for creationism to be true is for the creator to have set out to deceive us in the most devious and underhand manner. I find it extremely hard to imagine God doing anything like this, especially when he has dictated in his book for humanity to go forth and learn about the natural world so we can behold the wonders of the universe.
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the definition of creationismunion wrote:Why we must have an angel in our mist. Samadoon-waaxid was apparently with God since the start of creation and can tell us how created everything, so he must have been on his right hand side.
The only way for creationism to be true is for the creator to have set out to deceive us in the most devious and underhand manner. I find it extremely hard to imagine God doing anything like this, especially when he has dictated in his book for humanity to go forth and learn about the natural world so we can behold the wonders of the universe.
so you telling me you believe in ALLAH being THE CREATOR,yet you deny him the creation of humans according to the Quran, sunnah and Islamic creation ? how could you hold two opposing views in the same time? are you theist evolutionist or a confused Darwinist?a doctrine or theory holding that matter, the various forms of life, and the world were created by God out of nothing
it looks to me you either looking for a watered down version of Islam that is compatible with your corrupt views,or you missed the first principle of atheism(to not believe in a God) in the Murtad orientation. you cant have it both ways waryee,make up your mind then come talk to me.
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