XAMAR - FEBRUARY 2011

[greenday]

at the expense of local clans?

No.
Like ximan said most other cities have single clans making it easy for a maamul based on qabiil but in xamar that cant be. What if each qabiil says xamar is part of my maamul gobleed?
The central government should run xamar.

The clans that have a claim to Xamar waa la kasaa. Everyone knows who they are, and they can build a maamul for themselves.

If central government is gonna run Xamar, they better be running every other city too. It doesn't make sense for a guy from Galgaduud to come and say I'm gonna rule Galgaduud and I'm gonna rule it myself, and btw we're gonna share Xamar too.

That's unfair, everyone can see that

But what if they guy from galgaduud is also part of the clans which you said? can he can rule both so the sensible thing to do would be make it shared cant you see that.

[greenday]

Why should u get to keep yours to yourself and share mine with me?

Who made xamar yours and not mine? You cant claim xamar as yours. Its shared.

Easy, MY CLAN IS FROM XAMAR, and yours is from Galgaduud.

If u wanna share Xamar, I want my share of the pie of Dhuusomareeb

Looool. And how do you know my clan? Did you dream of it

[Shirib]

Shirib, that hard to work out, it will cause conflict as there is too many different tribes that have xamar as their deegan, so i don't think banaadir should have regional mamuul, unless the government choices mayor, regional leader ect from different tribes that have baanadir as their deegan. U see baandir is different to the rest of the 17 regions, looking at the map clearly shows u.

Actually there aren't. Only clans that have a claim to Xamar are, Abgaal, Wacdaan, Murusade, Reer Xamar, Jareer and Geledi. A maamul for the gobol can be easily worked out within these clans.

The problem with this federalism thing is, why would everyone get to share Xamar at the expense of those clans, surely you can see how it's unfair to those clans.

share xamar in wat way bro? Xamar is the capital city, and the variety of people that live there makes it suitable, iam sure the people already happy that their deegan will get best treatment as it is a capital city. About mamuul let those benadiris make their own no one is stopping them and it won't affect the rest of the people unless it causes conflict btw the benadiris.

But u just said that the government should chose the mayor and other leaders of Banadir and not the locals, which would get rid of the whole idea of the clan federalism

[grandpakhalif]

I never knew my little comment would cause so much controversy.

[Shirib]

Looool. And how do you know my clan? Did you dream of it

Its not hard to tell, ilma madarkicis are easy to spot

[Shirib]

But what if they guy from galgaduud is also part of the clans which you said? can he can rule both so the sensible thing to do would be make it shared cant you see that.

The clans oo Xamar degan waa la kasaa. Ur trying too hard to make it more complicated then it is. The locals of Xamar can sort themselves out, the problem isn't them but the outside influences.

[greenday]

Looool. And how do you know my clan? Did you dream of it

Its not hard to tell, ilma madarkicis are easy to spot

The fact that i have never heard of ilma madarkicis before you, should tell you that am not who ever you think i am.
Who ever ilma madarkucis are sixun eee ku galeen.

[XimanJaale]

I said if the government choses it would be much better as it will decrease conflict, u wanted the people of xamar to control their own mamuul, so they still will even if the government choices. Federalism all the way but xamar is the central government in everyones book.

[garoweboy]

It's Majority rules Minority rights we know who is the Majority in Xamar and Banadir.

[Shirib]

Looool. And how do you know my clan? Did you dream of it

Its not hard to tell, ilma madarkicis are easy to spot

The fact that i have never heard of ilma madarkicis before you, should tell you that am not who ever you think i am.
Who ever ilma madarkucis are sixun eee ku galeen.

Naah, Somalia ee sixun u galeen, and you're ilma madarkicis, u just don't know yet lol

[greenday]

But what if they guy from galgaduud is also part of the clans which you said? can he can rule both so the sensible thing to do would be make it shared cant you see that.

The clans oo Xamar degan waa la kasaa. Ur trying too hard to make it more complicated then it is. The locals of Xamar can sort themselves out, the problem isn't them but the outside influences.

20 years they could not do shit. 20 years they have been mostly alone and nothing but death came from xamar maxa ku diide in la mamulo dadki is mamuli waaye? Think of the people man. Qabiil has done nothing for the people of xamar.

[Shirib]

But what if they guy from galgaduud is also part of the clans which you said? can he can rule both so the sensible thing to do would be make it shared cant you see that.

The clans oo Xamar degan waa la kasaa. Ur trying too hard to make it more complicated then it is. The locals of Xamar can sort themselves out, the problem isn't them but the outside influences.

20 years they could not do shit. 20 years they have been mostly alone and nothing but death came from xamar maxa ku diide in la mamulo dadki is mamuli waaye? Think of the people man. Qabiil has done nothing for the people of xamar.

Are u on crack? For 20 years there were clans who are not from Xamar who have been keeping up the fighting and chaos in Xamar. Folks who came by the barrel of the gun and refused to leave and wouldn't allow anything if it wasn't them and them alone. What history book are your reading from?

[greenday]

Naah, Somalia ee sixun u galeen, and you're ilma madarkicis, u just don't know yet lol

Do you mind telling me what it means?

[greenday]

20 years they could not do shit. 20 years they have been mostly alone and nothing but death came from xamar maxa ku diide in la mamulo dadki is mamuli waaye? Think of the people man. Qabiil has done nothing for the people of xamar

Are u on crack? For 20 years there were clans who are not from Xamar who have been keeping up the fighting and chaos in Xamar. Folks who came by the barrel of the gun and refused to leave and wouldn't allow anything if it wasn't them and them alone. What history book are your reading from?[/quote]
You cant keep on blaming other for your problems. Shirib caadi iska dhig xamar dadkiisa saas ugalay ither with their own hand or by letting outsiders to ruin their homes.

[melo]

Shirib: Washington DC, which is the capital of the United States, is overseen not by its residents, but directly by the federal government. In most countries, the government has extra powers of control over the capital. I do believe that a future government should put more emphasis and control over xamar than other cities. It isn't a power trip. You just want your capital to be the best city in the country and the local qabiils would need help in that regard.