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Kukri wrote:^^Now this melo above make more sense than the Shi'a hating melo.

Shiicas are more dangerous than this Union character, for the very reason that Union is a clear cut mujrim, while shiicas appear to be Muslim but attack you inside. The enemy within is infinitely more dangerous than the enemy you can recognize. I have a problem with Shiica theology and their culemaa. . I dissociate myself from the people who curse abu bakr, cumar, cuthmaan, cali caaisha ra ajmaciin, who claim the quran is tampered with and claim Imaams have special powers.

I for one doubt that Union is Muslim. He is here to cause confusion amongst unsuspecting faraxs/xalimos by pretending to be Muslim while all along undermining and mocking the Islam

I think he was once a muslim, but right now is flirting with apostasy..

Union's probably at college age, who has done a few subjects on liberalism, secularism and the enlightenment and thinks he can narrate to you, world history. I've come across his type in real life, and they usually don't have have anything to say back. It is only on the internet where Union can make these absurd remarks and not fear being absolutely lambasted and shamed in front of people. Same with Hutuking and yalaxoow..

Like, if this debate happened in real life, he would be smoked.

Like if this

melo wrote:

Kukri wrote:^

Shiicas are more dangerous than this Union character, for the very reason that Union is a clear cut mujrim, while shiicas appear to be Muslim but attack you inside. The enemy within is infinitely more dangerous than the enemy you can recognize. I have a problem with Shiica theology and their culemaa. . I dissociate myself from the people who curse abu bakr, cumar, cuthmaan, cali caaisha ra ajmaciin, who claim the quran is tampered with and claim Imaams have special powers.


I think he was once a muslim, but right now is flirting with apostasy..

Union's probably at college age, who has done a few subjects on liberalism, secularism and the enlightenment and thinks he can narrate to you, world history. I've come across his type in real life, and they usually don't have have anything to say back. It is only on the internet when Union can make these absurd remarks and not fear being absolutely lambasted and shamed in front of people.

Like, if this debate happened in real life, he would be smoked.

Like if this

Shiicas are at least shiicas but what about the sunni brothers that are as misguided as those shiicas? they may not insult abu bakr, cumar, cuthman...but there are sunni brothers that are more dangerous than the shiicas. So the enemy within is the sunni brother that is hot headed, stubborn and intolerably arrogant in his own twisted convictions.


There is something about Union and his attitude towards Islam that is disturbing.


As for Hutuking...I don't see anything wrong with anything he says.

So the enemy within is the sunni brother that is hot headed, stubborn and intolerably arrogant in his own twisted convictions.

So as long as his beliefs are not blasphemous, he cannot be considered worse than a Shiica religiously. Union for instance is more blasphemous than Shiicas as he doubts Allah SWT openly, but then again, he wouldn't be called sunni. and secondly, his blasphemy is clear for everyone to see.

But you are right about Union. He seems to have been mentally beat down by the Gaalo. He mocks Muslims and other somalis, while glorifying the progressiveness of the Gaalo. Pity... to them, he is just a monkey. Hated by his own people and the Gaalo

As for Hutuking...I don't see anything wrong with anything he says

Hutuking calls deviated Muslims (Al-shabaab) kaafirs, whilst defending the Shiicas whose beliefs are clear cut kufr. I find that problematic.

melo wrote:

As for Hutuking...I don't see anything wrong with anything he says

Hutuking calls deviated Muslims (Al-shabaab) kaafirs, whilst defending the Shiicas who's beliefs are clear cut kufr. I find that problematic.

There is a simple explanation for that.

Al-shabaab are somalis that are contributing to the misery of his beloved country and after 20 years of lawlessness aND no end in sight, its nothing more than pure rage and disappointment towards his fellow somalis that is making him say that...

How is that for assessment from an unqualified psychologist?..

Kukri wrote:

melo wrote:

As for Hutuking...I don't see anything wrong with anything he says

Hutuking calls deviated Muslims (Al-shabaab) kaafirs, whilst defending the Shiicas who's beliefs are clear cut kufr. I find that problematic.

There is a simple explanation for that.

Al-shabaab are somalis that are contributing to the misery of his beloved country and after 20 years of lawlessness aND no end in sight, its nothing more than pure rage and disappointment towards his fellow somalis that is making him say that...

How is that for assessment from an unqualified psychologist?..

Well that would be true, if he didn't try and religiously back up his statements. Mufti HutuKing uses the xadiith about "if you call someone a kaafir, a kaffir, and they aren't, the statement comes back to you" to justify his statement . Hutu you usee, believes he can interpert xadiith on his own and then apply it to any context he wants

melo wrote:

Well that would be true, if he didn't try and religiously back up his statements. Mufti HutuKing uses the xadiith about "if you call someone a kaafir, a kaffir, and they aren't, the statement comes back to you" to justify his statement . Hutu you usee, believes he can interpert xadiith on his own and then apply it to any context he wants

Compare to grandpakhalif i think hutuking is a saint. if put next grandpakhalif there will be a halo above hutuking.

Kukri wrote:

melo wrote:

Well that would be true, if he didn't try and religiously back up his statements. Mufti HutuKing uses the xadiith about "if you call someone a kaafir, a kaffir, and they aren't, the statement comes back to you" to justify his statement . Hutu you usee, believes he can interpert xadiith on his own and then apply it to any context he wants

Compare to grandpakhalif i think hutuking is a saint. if put next grandpakhalif there will be a halo above hutuking.

Grandpa> Hutuking. He does not accommodate blasphemers like Hutu.

come on, he is a hard core qabilist while wearing Islam on his sleeves.

Kukri wrote:come on, he is a hard core qabilist while wearing Islam on his sleeves.

He opposes TFG now... He opposes Ahlu-sade alliance.. You were saying?

^ who do you support? most of your posts indicates to be pro-shabaab/aweys.

HutuKing01 wrote:^ who do you support? most of your posts indicates to be pro-shabaab/aweys.

I don't support any group operating at a national scale in Somalia. I think they are all messed up in their own ways. Al-shabaab don't follow Islamic regulations properly, and TFG/Sufi alliance are dhabodhilffis. If i were to rank them, I'd rank Shabaab first as they are closest to the Haqq. If they drop their khaariji manhaj and start following Islamic law properly, they would have my support.

melo wrote:

Kukri wrote:come on, he is a hard core qabilist while wearing Islam on his sleeves.

He opposes TFG now... He opposes Ahlu-sade alliance.. You were saying?

You are right I am not qabilist, I love all Somali clans and muslims

These are two personalities i support. I supported their politics. Ibrahim caddow i believe would have left the TFG, after seeing what a farce they've become. And adeer abshir tongue lashed both the dhabodhillifs and Shabaabis.

You can add Axmed diriye to that list. And the late Cumar faaruuq. I support their take on things. They both tongue lashed Shariif and Shabaab.


Now i'm aware people will accuse me of being a qabiilist. I am not. I do not support people who don't deserve to be support.

melo wrote:

Kukri wrote:come on, he is a hard core qabilist while wearing Islam on his sleeves.

He opposes TFG now... He opposes Ahlu-sade alliance.. You were saying?

Forget the TFG, the same way we agreed on the attitude of Union to be fishy to say the least, the same goes for grandpakhalif despite his poor attempt to cover his hateful nature.

Who was it that said...'hearing someone is lifting the lid off the cooking pot, you learn whats for supper'.