Key differences between Ethiopians and Eritreans?

[bareento]

Are there Jebertis in somalia? I mean apart the spritual descendants of sheekh Al-Jeberti?
In Wallo and Jimmaa and parts of Showa Jeberti is like etncity.
Also among Muslim Tigrays I believe

B.

[shiniile9]

Are there Jebertis in somalia? I mean apart the spritual descendants of sheekh Al-Jeberti?
In Wallo and Jimmaa and parts of Showa Jeberti is like etncity.
Also among Muslim Tigrays I believe

B.

Yes,there are. Abdiwahab is one of Jeberti Somalis.

[Belew]

Are you Jeberti ?

My ethnicity is really Belew but these days, the Belew ethnicity only exists in imagination and history books. We have assimilated to becoming Tigre people. We speak Tigre (a semitic language not to be confused for Tigrinya).

85% of Eritreans belong to the Biher-Tigrinya ethnic group and Tigre ethnic group.

There are officially 9 main ethnic groups in Eritrea but in reality, that number is closer to 15. (Biher-Tigrinya, Tigre, Saho, Hidareb, Afar, Kunama, Rashaida, Blin, Nara, Dahlik, Adeni-Arabs, etc. etc.)


Eritrea's population is roughly 6 million
The country is around 50/50 between Muslims and Christians


For simplicity, I will only post quick facts about the 4 largest ethnic groups of Eritrea.

Ethnic Name: Biher-Tigrinya
Size: 50% of the population
Language: Tigrinya (Eritrean Dialect)
Religion: Mostly Christian



Ethnic Name: Tigre
Size: 35% of Eritrea's population
Language: Tigre
Religion: Mostly Muslim





Ethnic Name: Saho
Size: 5% of the population
Language: Saho
Religion: Nearly all Muslims



Ethnic Name: Hidareb
Size: 3% of the population
Language: Beja (Hidareb; To-Badawi)
Religion: Islam

[The_Patriot]

Is Belew =Bilen?

[Voltage]

Most Tigre-speaking people are Beni-Amer (Beja) today. They are the quintessential Somali-type, look more like us than the Oromo, have the same culture as us, are primarily Muslim, have the same geneologic and tribal descent structure as us and from what I can see the women have the same clothing pattern us our women (guntiino). No wonder you find affinity here. Actually I am 95% of the time mistaken for being Tigre by Eritreans.

[The_Patriot]

Most Tigre-speaking people are Beni-Amer (Beja) today. They are the quintessential Somali-type, look more like us than the Oromo, have the same culture as us, are primarily Muslim, have the same geneologic and tribal descent structure as us and from what I can see the women have the same clothing pattern us our women (guntiino). No wonder you find affinity here. Actually I am 95% of the time mistaken for being Tigre by Eritreans.

Ask him why Jeberti are classified as Tigrinya in Eritrea while they Tigryinya claim that the Jeberti are recent (100-150yrs) muslim immigrants from Tigray.

[Belew]

Is Belew =Bilen?

No.


The Belew people are people of half Bedouin and half Beja ancestry who migrated to Eritrea from Southern Egypt. We were originally Christian and assimilated with the Biher-Tigrinya ethnic groups and the Tigre ethnic group.


Beni-Amers are mostly of Tigre, Biher-Tigrinya, Belew and Beja ancestry. Today, most Beni-Amers speak Tigre and are virtually an ethnic group who are being assimilated into the Tigre identity.

Beni Amer have no relations with Somalis, don't bring that Cushitic VS Semitic stuff here, as those linguistic classifications hold no water when it comes to determining ethnic relations.

[Voltage]

Get over yourself, the last thing a Son of Somal does is claim anyone particularly Ajnabi. I am probably the .001% of Somalis who even knows about Beni-Amer and I am going by what I read as well as my personal interactions. There is a Tigre kid I know who told me he considers Somalis the most closest ethnic group to his people even more than his fellow Eritrean the Christian "Biher-Tigrinya" and that is where I got most of my info from.

[Belew]

Most Tigre-speaking people are Beni-Amer (Beja) today. They are the quintessential Somali-type, look more like us than the Oromo, have the same culture as us, are primarily Muslim, have the same geneologic and tribal descent structure as us and from what I can see the women have the same clothing pattern us our women (guntiino). No wonder you find affinity here. Actually I am 95% of the time mistaken for being Tigre by Eritreans.

Ask him why Jeberti are classified as Tigrinya in Eritrea while they Tigryinya claim that the Jeberti are recent (100-150yrs) muslim immigrants from Tigray.

Jeberity are another group of people who claim they have relations with Mecca for religious prestige. Truth is, all claims are built on a mountain of sand. Even today, we see a lot of Somalis claiming ties and links with Yemen, but in reality, the majority of Somalis have no relations with Yemeni groups. Social status is what drives groups of people to link their ethnicities with groups of people that may enhance their social standings. This is why no Somali admits that they may possibly have Bantu ancestry, considering the close interaction some Somali clans have had with it. People only say things that enhance their social standings, this is also why Tigray people claim the Biher-Tigrinya, it's to boost their low caste social standings. Ask any Ethiopian on their views of Eritreans, and the first thing out of their mouth is: "We are all the same" (of course, ignoring that even Ethiopians aren't the same with one another, let alone with Eritrea). They say this because it's socially hip to assosiate yourself with Eritreans. On the contrary, for an Eritrean, the association of Ethiopian bloodline or connection to Ethiopians lowers your social standings. These are real variables that come to play. In Khartoum's oil rich elite society, many of the elites base their overall beauty and attractiveness on who can best resemble an Eritrean.


I've even read in Kenya, many of the men want women to look like Somalis. Some groups of people, for whatever reasons, are prized over others (this could be for religious prestige, attractiveness, wealth, etc) and this is in turn shapes attitudes and class. When you want something, you are now at the social mercy of that person who has it.

[The_Patriot]

Belew hold it there you seem to make Eritreans look as different from others like the Aborigines of Australia and the Anglo saxons of Australia.

I mean what voltage said is true that Tigre look a photocopy of Somalis coated with the fact Afars intermarry with them.

[Voltage]

As a Somali, i would respect the sense of pride if I didn't think it wasn't warranted. Though, personally, Eritreans are my second favorite people in Africa I would think you are as well known as Papua New Guinea.

When it comes to standards of pride and beauty, I suppose apart from constant turmoil, Somalia is the only African nation that makes any list.

[The_Patriot]

Get over yourself, the last thing a Son of Somal does is claim anyone particularly Ajnabi. I am probably the .001% of Somalis who even knows about Beni-Amer and I am going by what I read as well as my personal interactions. There is a Tigre kid I know who told me he considers Somalis the most closest ethnic group to his people even more than his fellow Eritrean the Christian "Biher-Tigrinya" and that is where I got most of my info from.

Also one thing is alot of these somali like ethnic groups in Eritrea are just offsprings of the sons of Axmed Gurey. Just like the Pashtu are the offsprings of the Macedonians( Alexander the great).

[Voltage]

Also one thing is alot of these somali like ethnic groups in Eritrea are just offsprings of the sons of Axmed Gurey. Just like the Pashtu are the offsprings of the Macedonians( Alexander the great).

Well let us not get ahead of ourselves although I would say the majority of Tigre speakers that I have seen and interacted with have seemed more Somali to me than most Canfar (Afars). I would say they seem more Somali to me than a lot of Rahanweyn to be honest and no offense. This Belew guy seems to me like a Tigrinya speaker wallahul cadiim, I have been more interested in the agame thing then any of the Tigre I have spoken to before and this guy takes it personally. Also being Marehan, I would assume since we were at the lead of Ahmed Gurey's campaign, some of our seed must have made way there which explains the uncanny similarity I get from my Tigre-speaking Eritrean brothers.

[The_Patriot]

Two groups that have raped(rewritten) history in the horn of Africa are the Amharas and the Tigrinya( Amasin).

Just look at Belew. I would just love to see how he argues with his opponent supremacist aka an Amhara

[Voltage]

Two groups that have raped(rewritten) history in the horn of Africa are the Amharas and the Tigrinya( Amasin).

Just look at Belew. I would just love to see how he argues with his opponent supremacist aka an Amhara

You talk like an Ogadeni now who cares about the internal dialogue of Ethiopia. I care not. My pride and arrogance is above both.