Four Schools of madhab/thought in Islam.

[fisabililah]

Assalamu caleykum,

I would suggest studying a book on ahadiith al-akham along with the study of a madhab, such as cumdatul axkam or buluuq almaraam. This was you will see the ahadiith these madhabs are using to get the rulings.

For anyone who is intrested, sheekh Umal is doing a weekly dars on Muntaqal akhbar by Majdudeen abu barakaat ibn Taymiyah who is the grandfather of ibn taymiyah. In this book the sheekh collected most of the ahadith all the madhabs used as evidence. And imaam shawkanis book naylul awdaar is basically a sharx of this book. You begin to develop an understanding of where they derived the ruuling from.

For anyone who is intrested the sheekh has only done around 8 tapes so you can easily catch uup.

http://halgan.net/umal.php

[ToughGong]

Why Muslims Follow Madhhabs?

http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/madhhabstlk.htm

[melo]

^ That website is a terrible website. It is the probably the most partisan website i've seen on the internet. Just letting everyone know, lest they believe everything they read on there.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Melo,
Did the ahlulbayt and the best of the sahaba follow any of these schools?
Or is it innovation that came after the blessed generation??????


Whatever did not come from the prophet PBUH, his purified family and sahaba is indeed something that we must reject.

The madhabs follow the Quran and Sunnah. Stop playing verbal games, and repent to Allah for you shiaism, that has turned away from the Sunnah of rasulullah saws.

[ToughGong]

^ That website is a terrible website. It is the probably the most partisan website i've seen on the internet. Just letting everyone know, lest they believe everything they read on there.

Nu Ha Miim Keller is a great scholar

[melo]

^ That website is a terrible website. It is the probably the most partisan website i've seen on the internet. Just letting everyone know, lest they believe everything they read on there.

Nu Ha Miim Keller is a great scholar

He is too biased for my liking. Plus he promotes things, are tread along a very dangerous line.

[grandpakhalif]

melo so how does one learn a madhab, do they have to study for a scholar? Or can a layman study usuulal fiqh himself?

[melo]

melo so how does one learn a madhab, do they have to study for a scholar? Or can a layman study usuulal fiqh himself?

Traditionally speaking, you would learn under culemaa. This is how all the imaams of Islam learned Islam. Even the big ones today, learned under the sheikhs of the time. Sheikh Google is good in some sense, but limited in other. And studying on your own is a peril, because you have no one to refer to, and have no ability to check if your ideas are right or wrong.

[ciyaal_warta]

the way i pray is shaafici and i dont know the rest i think am half hanbali half shafici

[melo]

the way i pray is shaafici and i dont know the rest i think am half hanbali half shafici

I think its the same for everyone. The hanbali and shaafici madhabs are very close, as they both heavily rely on Hadith, and use similar legal principles to deduce rulings.

[ToughGong]

The hanbali and shaafici madhabs are very close,

[ciyaal_warta]

the way i pray is shaafici and i dont know the rest i think am half hanbali half shafici

I think its the same for everyone. The hanbali and shaafici madhabs are very close, as they both heavily rely on Hadith, and use similar legal principles to deduce rulings.

true

[Spursman]

Melo I used to have the same worries also when I first started learning fiqh but alxamdulillah Allah made it easy for me. If you have your basics there shouldn't be any problem taking fiqh from a sufi or Ashari because the teacher will stick to the book his teaching. The honest truth is some of the major shafi scholars are either sufi or Ashari but most of the differences are exaggerated ...

I plan to continue studying shafi fiqh until am strong enough inshallah..

Alxamdulillah here in my city there are some brothers who are passionate about shafi fiqh so I mostly study with them..let me know if you need any info, durus in somali or websites that have all the shafi books you need.

Jzk for the advice. Inshallah if you can link me to these wbites, it would be much appreciated.

People make it more difficult than it is. Nobody opposes Madhab in its essence, but scholars warn against clinging into actions that are in conflict with the way of the prophet. The shaficis think that touching your husband/wife breaks your ablution while it's narrated from the Prophet that he use to kiss his wives and go to the Mosque to lead the prayers. The Hanafis reject the Sunni act of wiping over your socks when you do wudu/ablution. So in essence there's nothing wrong with following a specific Madhab as long as you reject the practices that are against the Sunnah when the proof/Daleel reaches you.


PS: there's no 'laa madaahib' group, even the most 'anti taqleed' scholars warn againt the bidcah within the madhab and not against the madhab itself!

Only someone who has studied the diin formally can ascertain for sure what opinion is stronger. It is much more complicated than plucking out a saxiix hadith. Just look at the discussion on camel meat for good reason!.

As for laymen, like you and me, then we cant ascertain for sure what opinion is stronger. We rather just listen to what our sheikh or imaam says. We are therefore muqallids in effect. The laymen has no madhab. He asks whomever he sees fit, that is upon the truth.

As for you discussion on the no laa maadhib group, yes they do exist. The indo-pak ahl-xadiith are a very good example of this, and so are some Somali sheikhs. They have no real usuul, and simply go to the Bukhaari and pluck out a xadiith to refute a fiqhi practice. This is just simplisitic, because there is a whole science to understand the hadith and related issues.

The problem with the laa madaahib group is that they come up with very strange ideas on bidcah and fiqh practices. This is a result of no usuul at all. The great imaam of the last century, albani raximullah was said to be of this camp, which is why his compatriots amongst the salafi establishment criticized him for. Sheikh Abdullah azzam ra, for instance writes, that while Albaani was a genius in hadith, his fiqhi opinions at times were very strange, having no precedent in Islamic history. I think albani's najdi compatriots like Ibn baaz also did not agree with his fiqhi opinions.

And the hanafis, they say that you cannot make wudu over material that isn't waterproof and can't sustain length duration of socod in them. The shaaficis say that the material must be waterproof, and so the maalikis. The Hanaabaliyya argue that the Sock doesnt have to be waterproof, but that it has to be thick enough that it can stay on one's feet on its own, and that it has to be thick enough, such that the skin is not discernable underneath, and that the sock is thick enough to prevent water seeping through, whilst making mash. This latter opinion is what the Najdi culemaa take, and it is the most lenient of all 4 school of thoughts. Im not sure on whether its the strongest or not, but its what i was taught growing up.

[Enlightened~Sista]

I looked into madhabs, and I have to to the conclusion that they are just not for me.I find things in them to be contrary to Islamic beliefs, and rulings that defy logic.I like to read the Qur'an and authentic sayings of Prophet Muhammed {pbuh} for myself and draw my own conclusions; that doesn't mean I don't consult knowledgeable people about things I have little or no knowledge about.

[melo]

I looked into madhabs, and I have to to the conclusion that they are just not for me.I find things in them to be contrary to Islamic beliefs, and rulings that defy logic.I like to read the Qur'an and authentic sayings of Prophet Muhammed {pbuh} for myself and draw my own conclusions; that doesn't mean I don't consult knowledgeable people about things I have little or no knowledge about.

With all due respect sister, this is where every single modernist movement sprouted from. They think they can disregard an entire tradition, by reinterperting everything using their own brains. Stay away from this . Learn from the people of diin