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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:24 pm
by dhuusa_deer
Optimist,

Here is what I was talking about: The miller-Urey Experiment.

http://www.chem.duke.edu/~jds/cruise_ch ... iller.html

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:12 am
by optimist_1
Yess Dhuusa

The main criticism is the early earh atmosphere. Also What does some Amino acid say. Still no organism Razz Also the lightning storms Confused Also where is the Oxygen.

I read when they added Oxygen no organic molecules were found.

I had seen this some while ago thanks for the article.

''Miller hypothesis which shows the presence of uranium in sediments dated to 3.7 Ga and indicates it was transported in solution by oxygenated water (otherwise it would have precipitated out''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_experiment all the criticism are on here.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:44 am
by dhuusa_deer
Optimist,

Did you read the link I gave you?

Let me summaries what the Miller-urey experiment found:

1. Under early earth atmospheric conditions, you could get inorganic compounds to turn into organic compouns. Organic compounds are Carbon containing compounds, the essential building block of all living things.

2. You can aslo obtain amino acids, the subunits of protiens.

Subsequent experiments found the following under similar conditions:

1. You could get the amino acids to form one of the bases of DNA, I believe it was adenine.

2. Same experiment also found you could have amino acids spontaneously form RNA and DNA.

As you can see, we have demonstrated in labs that it is possible to lifeless chemicals to turn into organic and precursors for life chemicals.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:51 am
by optimist_1
Its not even proven this is the early earth atmosphere. No Organism and still very far from it.

Nonetheless its still a step for Evolutionist and yess i have read it

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:54 am
by dhuusa_deer
^^^Nothing is 'proven' in science. Science is not math or logic, so you can't prove anything. Not even theory of gravity. Do you believe gravity doesn't exist Confused

We can only look for evidences and facts and compare with theory predictions. That is all science tries to do.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:50 pm
by Ureysoo
*home boy*….u know what, what if I relinquished conversing with u in a cultivate way, weather u determined 2 believe what I acknowledged u or not, *it’s all up 2 u*…but emerges like u squabble 4 the love of being @ variance rather than having a sagacious chinwag …and I dissipated my exquisite time illuminating couple of points but without any sequence…so maintain being incarcerated 2 ur reservations… no speculate why u r in state of mystification… Crying or Very sad

*God assists them who help themselves* … Arrow ..*bear that in mind*.... Idea

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:16 pm
by dhuusa_deer
'home boy' Confused

Ok...let's just move on... Sad

Verbal bunny aka Ureeyso,

What happened? I refuted every point you raised, one-by-one. All you could muster in response is to accuse me of agruing for the sake of it.? I think that is unfair Evil or Very Mad

But you know what, I know what you're trying to do. You want exist strategy and use this bogus and flaccid charge as one. I KNOW what you're doing.

Please stick to the debate. Refute what I wrote in my last post or admit I was right. I don't want to claim 'victory' or anything like that since this is not about who wins or loses but exchange views. If you wanna end it, do so. Its fine by me. I won't call you a cowardarad Very Happy

"no speculate why u r in state of mystification"

what are you smoking? hopefully not your UR Laughing just kidding. but what mystification are you talking about Surprised Confused

I'm not trying to confuse you, I try to be clear as possible. I have no clue about what you find 'mystifiying'. Care to elaborate?

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:26 pm
by Ureysoo
u got ur self a transaction *ninyahow*….i’ll respond 2 ur post soon *insha allah*, but be4 I do so….attempt 2 be more coherent…. Cool

nah, u didn’t portray me as a*pusillanimous* individual….just be geared up… Very Happy

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:56 pm
by dhuusa_deer
^^^be geered up for Ureeyso's rebuttal Surprised can't wait. I think I got a tidal wave of verbal obfuscation heading my way Laughing

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:14 pm
by Ducaale004
It is amazing to read how Ureyso and dhuusadheer, a sister and her brother regurgitate their a bit knowledge of evolution. Keep the good work.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:59 pm
by LilTrigger
The Scientist was Dumb..

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:05 pm
by YunG_GuNNN
dont call mother nature dumb i mean after all she is 2/8 somali Smile

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:23 am
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="optimist_1"]That wasn't even funny Confused dhuuso i want to know whyyy[/quote]

Well...when I was young I had a small bite of halalified pork. as you know pork is unhealthy and contains parasites that when consumed infect the proper functioning of the brain. I think the parasites ate my brain cells, depleting my thinking/reasoning capacity. Hence, unable to reason properly I couldn't stay the path lied out by Allah and strayed. That, in a nutshell, is my journey to the universe of apostasy and kafirdom.

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:24 am
by LionHeart-112
^^idiot.

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:34 am
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="LilTrigger"]The Scientist was Dumb..[/quote]

what scientist JayZ?