Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

[yunis09]

you still at it

[ToughGong]

this just sounds like nick griffin and the daily mail

I said this before Wallahi,

[BlackVelvet]

you still at it

Jow! I am in shock innit

[yunis09]

seemeyer most people back home will come to their rescue anyways

you still at it

Jow! I am in shock innit

along i was on your side but not to worry it can happen to the best of us

[anonymousfaarax]

Their children attend the free primary schools of Somaliland whilst some Somaliland children cannot

How can non-citizens get free education while SLand citizens can't? Whose fault is that?

Yes they are taking jobs from the local population

Bring forth some facts. You can't say in one post that they are unskilled workers who sit around and beg and in the other say that they are taking jobs.

They are a drain on the economy with all the constant begging

If this sentece makes sense to you please slap yourself

their use of the resources e.g. water, charcoal, foodstuff and other basics which raises prices

Them paying for your water, charcoal, foodstuff and other basics actually means they are putting money into your economy and helping local businesses


Dude you are chatting rubbish, in the most respectful way since I have never spoken to you. If this is true then it just sounds like a government eager to please its people by picking on the least popular of the society. You lot should be hanging your heads in shame.

The education point. It is not a case of fault but seats, qualiy of education.

The jobs point. The two are not mutually exclusive. They are, as you should have realised, and can be both beggars and low level labourers i.e. men labour and women and kids beg. Where Somalilanders are unwilling to do the work that Oromos are, the Somaliland government should formulate a policy to encourage destitute Somaliland to take up thos oppotunities. Somaliland may or may not be willing to those jobs but they are potential jobs nonetheless.

The begging point. As for the beggars, they may spend the money they are given/earn within Somaliland or send it to their relatives elwhere but that is besides the point. I'll be frank, It is the redistribution of wealth from well-off Somalilanders to Oromos I am against. The point is who does the spending and i'd rather a Somaliland or Somali do the spending than an Oromo, no offence. I'd rather the money was given to destitute Somalilanders or destitute Somalis seeking refuge in Somaliland.

The point of the resources. You wrongly took this point to be about money per se when it is not. I'd rather they not use the finite resources and place pressures on the environment e.g. water so that Somalilanders may use them over a longer period of time. As for the money you think they put into the local economy. These people are not productive in the sense that they do not bring hard currency into the country but they spend the charity of SOmalilanders within the country. They are not tourists that bring thousands to spend while they stay, no, they come to take what they can get and get what they can take.

In any case Somalilanders shouldnt have to justify themselves to this extent for wanting to expel Ethiopian non-somalilanders. Somaliland needs to start playing hardball and look for mutually beneficial relationships wherever it interacts with extraneous bodies.

[samatar133]

meeshan doodiba ma talee, maxaa layka xiijinayaa? tell me one single country on this planet, only one, that accept foreign nationals in hundreds of thousands to come to their cities any time they want, sleep around streets, beg on it and take up jobs without permission. Somaliland accepts refugees, infact there are currently over 400 families mostly from ethiopia that are granted regugees status in somaliland. Rest are ecconomic emigrants which according to somaliland law should be repatriated to their home countires. the government is enforcing it's law and i don't know how that is something worth debating. Finally if you have a relative from somalia living in somaliland you should not worry since this programm will not affect people from Somalia escaping from fammine and conflict.

[Username1]

BlackVelvet wallal you can't apply the same type of thinking you would to a western country, but even in western country nobody allows people to enter another country with any documents. The oromos have over stayed their welcome and need to fight for the lands and leave Somaliland. It's unreasonable for you to expect Somaliland which is struggling itself and just about carrying the weight of expectation from it's indeginouse population and add the large influx of oromos whilst at the same time expecting Somaliland to cater for our southern brothers. If this situation is allowed to carry on the path you are advising Somaliland will implode and that is good for nobody.
Somaliland should allow those who are in danger and give them papers to enter, but, an influx of Oromo refugees need to be discouraged..

[Murax]

I thought the Oromos go to Bossaso not Somaliland. Or is there a human trafficing ring in berbera?

[ToughGong]

BV baa meeshan loogu qaatey,if these people are the cause of problems such as crime.Then yeah remove the individuals concerned.Laakiin to blanket blame people that have escaped problems from thier region and have come to SL for sanctuary should not have fingers pointed at them.How are you people who are agianst the rhetoric and activities of the EDL any different to these racist bogots

[anonymousfaarax]

You know how many Somalis including Somalilanders entered countries all over the world as illegal immigrants? wallahi this is one of those situations where you just have to laugh at the irony.

It is their own choice to let Somalis be be here and in most cases people came here as refugees for which there are provisions in law. Just because someone else does something because their population is highly skilled, they need low skilled labourers, there is a shortage in the labour pool and their fertility rates are falling does not mean you should think their policies are automatically good for you.

[yunis09]

I thought the Oromos go to Bossaso not Somaliland. Or is there a human trafficing ring in berbera?

difficult init

[anonymousfaarax]

I thought the Oromos go to Bossaso not Somaliland. Or is there a human trafficing ring in berbera?

The new Silaanyo admin has done something about it but they used to trail the road from Wajaale to Boosaaso by foot. You'd be driving to say burco and every so often you'd see walking oromos. Some go to Boosaaso, some stay, some beg till they have enough for the journey, some beg and walk and some perish.

[mcali]

I reckon the hypocricy of such a move is too obvious to deny. Politicians as usual are creating the illusion of a "common enemy" to build support. It is so not our culture to turn people away because they are poor and have to beg.

There is no justified economic reason to kick them out. The social reasons make you sound like BNP, which is a testament to the short memory and hypocisy of humans.

You know how many Somalis including Somalilanders entered countries all over the world as illegal immigrants? wallahi this is one of those situations where you just have to laugh at the irony.

BlackVelvet
Do I smell cuqdad
with a hint of tribalism

[Gara Man]

Sure kick out all Oromo refugees like thats gonna solve all your problems. Your former British Protectorate known to the world as Somaliland will have a harder time trying to get recognition status now they are planning to get evict oppressed refugee seeking immigrants. I don't know why these Somalilanders think theres this secret mission of Oromos to colonize Hargeisa or something? Oromos could care less for that place. They are using Somaliland as a hub to reach Arabia, and from there on to Europe. You people like to complain about Oromos there are jobless and destitute and poor, yet Somaliland is place where 70% of the people there are unemployed. This is not because of Oromos. Even when you guys had your own leader bomb your own town, alot of these people migrated to Ethiopia, especially in Oromia, yet faced no forms of discrimination. Now today when you have those roles reversed they do the exact opposite. This shows lack of compassion for human life and are xenophobic to the extreme. These are not acts for which a government who desperately earns to seek international recognition commits.But my personal opinion of the matter is Oromos should not migrate and stay where they are.

The world you speak of does not care for Oromos. Frankly it is not even known that they are refugees, they are more like economic migrants. No one says this will solve all problems but it is a simple case of cost benefit analysis and your people contribute nothing. What do we benefit from being a springboard to Arabia for you ? When you say Somalilanders fled to Ethiopia during their independence war, don't you realise they only whent to their relatives across the other side of the porous border between Somaliland and Somali Region (the hint is in Somali) mostly fleeing to the Somali region and not Oromia as you'd have us believe. Recognition has nothing to do with this.

Oromos should do more than just not migrate. OROMOS should go to OROMIA and liberate and develop it. We will do what we have to and I suggest you do the same. Come to us when you propose a mutually beneficial relationship. Its a dog eat dog world, yaa wax ka galeen if a few oromos laba farood dhexdood ka dhacaan

To you and EPDRF supporters yes they are economic migrants, but to a native who knows the persecution that exists, they are oppressed souls seeking a better life. I wonder how people can speak of immigrants and migrations when Somalis from Somaliland and others go to Qabribayah, who wish to eventually transport themselves to places in Oromia and Ethiopia? Telling me to believe that all people migrating then and now are all just staying in the Somali region would be crazy to assume. Also if this act is carried out, it could create an negative atmosphere for Oromos and Somalis in Haraghee who live peacefully together, as it did 10-12 year ago. This would not be good news for them.

If Oromos refugees failed to contribute it is not because of the failures of them but the failures of the local leaders of Somaliland. It is because of their lack of creativity and problem solving skill is that a problem exists. So simply using Oromos as scapegoats does not make up for the lack of accomplishments.

Seeking liberation is not that simple as you put it. It can take generations to fic the failures of our current leaders but thankfully Oromos are easily becoming one of the most educated peoples of the Horn of future generations.

[KingMJ]

This makes no sense at all.

Are these people taking welfare from the SLand government? Are they taking jobs? Are they a drain on the economy? Sounds like the SLand government is getting rid of poor people just because they don't like the look of them, if that is how a country chooses to behave then at least do us a favour and erase the shahada from your flag.

Somaliland doesn't receive billions of dollars in aid like other countries. In the long term it will be difficult to sustain 100,000 illegal immigrants with a rapidly increasing population as more and more illegal immigrants are arriving this number will double every quickly. So I guess this is just a preventive strategy to tackle this now rather then leaving it too late when it gets messy and out of control.