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Re: New Somali generation unaware of their own history?

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Tuba wrote: because of what he did to his own people (by the way what did he do?)
No, they hate him because he wasn't from their clan or he dissed their clan for not ryding with the struggle, Siyad was notorious for his lyrical disses and to this day those potent poems still effects the heart of his opponents childrens childrens children.
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He dissed and fought those who were friendly with the enemy,those who hate him today are the children of those traitors.
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934 my cousin always amazes me with his way of thinking :o
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Advo wrote:
Tuba wrote: because of what he did to his own people (by the way what did he do?)
No, they hate him because he wasn't from their clan or he dissed their clan for not ryding with the struggle,
I see. :|

*wonders if he my clan was lyrically abused* :shock: :shock: :roll:
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some people are denying that sayidka slaughtered many innocent during his time :down:
sayidka killed many people that's why some section of somalis did or do not admire him!!
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damu wrote:some people are denying that sayidka slaughtered many innocent during his time :down:
sayidka killed many people that's why some section of somalis did or do not admire him!!
Like I said they probably did something that warranted such actions from Siyaadka, probably aided the foreign occupiers or were spies etc, he had good intention and motives and may allah subxana watacaalaa forgive his sins, his dream was to unite all somalis to fight against the gaalo but unfortunately some people saw things different and became an obstacle that needed to be removed. :up:
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Advo fighting colonialism is a noble cause fighting ur own people is another thing there were many regions plundered and burned down by the dervishes to the ground there were many people killed who had zero links with the the colonialist and were killed. Darveshism was a crazy cult back than if you did not support them you was equal to a kaafir they were pretty takfiris.
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I see this being moved to the clan section. :geek:


@OP sorry in advance :clap:
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Advo wrote:
damu wrote:some people are denying that sayidka slaughtered many innocent during his time :down:
sayidka killed many people that's why some section of somalis did or do not admire him!!
Like I said they probably did something that warranted such actions from Siyaadka, probably aided the foreign occupiers or were spies etc, he had good intention and motives and may allah subxana watacaalaa forgive his sins, his dream was to unite all somalis to fight against the gaalo but unfortunately some people saw things different and became an obstacle that needed to be removed. :up:
in that case then al-shabaab are right in killing people since they are doing exactly what sayidka was up to..killing innocent civilians in the name of anti-colonialism :down: :down:
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the somali youth has seen the light and its good they become unaware and disown bad history like somaliweyne
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Babygirl- wrote:
Dardaraan by the Great Sayid.


Nimanyahow damiinnimada waa lagu dulloobaaye,

Nin ragay dardaaran u tahaye doqon ha moogaado,

Dawo lagama helo gaal haddaad daawo dhigataane,


Waa idin dagaayaa kufriga aad u debcaysaane,

Dirhankuu idiin qubahayaad dib u go'aysaane,

Marka hore dabkuu idinka dhigi dumar sidiisiiye,

Marka xigana dabaqadda yuu idin dareensiine,

Marka xiga dalkuu idinku oran duunyo dhaafsada e',

Marka xiga dushuu idinka rari sida dameeraade,
Mansha alaah,,,,,,,,,,walee wa suu u yidhi e inaan lagu noqonayn.
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Whether S.A.H was a Hero or warlord needs to be analyzed in an objective manner.but i fail to see why history about him should not be read or taught in history classes however,making up false stories to glamorize him is whole different thing.
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Re: New Somali generation unaware of their own history?

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934 wrote:The Mad Mullah was a hero for going against the colonials. Now what happened between The Mullah and Somali clans is something totally different and shouldn't be used to erase him from Somali History. At the end of the day he is part and parcel of Somali history and should be acknowledge as such.

awoowgey bu waran ka taagay (is no reason to to take credit away from where its due) but he also had Kofi's head on plate, or was it on the dirt?

Exactly, I am confused by these people who try to paint him in a negative light or make irrelevant. Do they think their family was only killed or injured by Sayidka's army? My great-grandmother was stabbed by his army, and my great-grandfather's brothers were killed by his army. Look at me, I still see the wrong the army did for unwarranted attacks and his army was not an army of whole saints without sin. NONETHELESS, Sayidka will always be remembered as the man who stood against the colonialist and vowed to fight them to the last breath. His is a legacy and will live in Somali history as a hero whether people like it or not.
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Re: New Somali generation unaware of their own history?

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sadeboi wrote:
934 wrote:The Mad Mullah was a hero for going against the colonials. Now what happened between The Mullah and Somali clans is something totally different and shouldn't be used to erase him from Somali History. At the end of the day he is part and parcel of Somali history and should be acknowledge as such.

awoowgey bu waran ka taagay (is no reason to to take credit away from where its due) but he also had Kofi's head on plate, or was it on the dirt?

Exactly, I am confused by these people who try to paint him in a negative light or make irrelevant. Do they think their family was only killed or injured by Sayidka's army? My great-grandmother was stabbed by his army, and my great-grandfather's brothers were killed by his army. Look at me, I still see the wrong the army did for unwarranted attacks and his army was not an army of whole saints without sin. NONETHELESS, Sayidka will always be remembered as the man who stood against the colonialist and vowed to fight them to the last breath. His is a legacy and will live in Somali history as a hero whether people like it or not.
Rag aan cadiifad hayn baad tihiin de idinku :up:
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Re: New Somali generation unaware of their own history?

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It is really ironic people like Haragwafi, Emperior/Khalid, etc write about the Sayid like that while praising and naming schools about nemesis of the Sayid written by even non-Somalis and Westerners like this:
The first British officer to hunt the mullah and attempt to crush his insurgency was Lt. Col. Eric Swayne, a dashing fellow who had previously been on safari to Somaliland, hunting for elephant and rhino, kudu and buffalo. He was dispatched from India, and brought with him an enterprising Somali who had once worked as a bootblack polishing British footwear. Musa Farah would serve one British overlord after another. He would gain power, wealth, and influence beyond anything he could have imagined, including a sword of honor from King Edward VII.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2 ... world.html
Xasbunalaah wa nicmal wakiil. Today even the British the Sayid fought against remember him as anti-colonialist freedom fighter who fought them for coming to Somali territory to colonize them while some of our Somalis are still praising those that used to wash British boots and were colonial gun for hires. :?

If you read the book by General Jama Mohamed Qalib (and anti-Siyaad Isaaq/Garjaxis) called Somalia:The Cost of Dictatorship he writes in the beginning about his biography where he says he was born an orphan months after an attack by the Sayid killed his father and some clansmen but says the Sayid had a right to attack his clan because they were supporting British colonialism at that time. Now that's what you call a realist.
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