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hyperactive wrote:dont blame him for all somalis being mooryaans and moryaan supporters when they're their clan!!

oki

not only him ofcourse


all other mooryaans xata

hyperactive wrote:i never heard of. did he related to eidid?

the problem is glorifying individuals. individual cannot do anything with out people his side. when we stop glorifying them. whole nation cannot depends on ashkhaas!!

even tfg now , we support them or against it because of an individual !! loomaba arko qof somali mathalayo.

You are right. There is no point of glorifying individuals when they did not do it alone. Aideed had help and support. He was not alone. He couldn't do it alone. No one can. That only happens in movies and fairytales.

MrSinister wrote:

waryaa wrote:Guys, before this turns into clan fight and nabs and co throw it into that clan pit, I wanna ask you this question:.

thats exactly what you want. your another dooro who wants to insult a dead hawiye leader, i bet your siyaadist marexaan

and your other username is?

waryaa, ignore him, he's a troll..



I'd like to read that book by Cadiid.

waryaa wrote:

MrSinister wrote:

waryaa wrote:Guys, before this turns into clan fight and nabs and co throw it into that clan pit, I wanna ask you this question:.

thats exactly what you want. your another dooro who wants to insult a dead hawiye leader, i bet your siyaadist marexaan

and your other username is?

Deal with what I asked you, instead of diverting the subject. You created this topic to insult a dead man and bring his sanity into question and have your clansmen call him moryaan. yet others are banned for insulting other dead people. seems to me, there is a double standard going on around here.

MrSinister wrote:
Deal with what I asked you, instead of diverting the subject. You created this topic to insult a dead and have your clansmen call him moryaan. yet others are banned for insulting other dead people. seems to me, there is a double standard going on around here.

moryaan isnt an insult ... it what somebody is

nabs tnx for the heads up

You can find inlibraries.

Mohammed Farah Aidid and His Vision of Somalia [Hardcover]
Hardcover: 260 pages
Publisher: Vikas Publishing House Pvt Ltd (March 15, 1994)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 070697624X
ISBN-13: 978-0706976243

it is way overpriced @ amazon $195

Melo,

My Adeer was part of the USC who advised him AGAINST listening to the Hawiye elders and defending them from the very regime that Ali Mahdi's allies were trying to bring back. The Aideed wing should have pulled back to Beletweyne until the "naive" Hawiye like Ali Mahdi saw that the Jeberti even those in his government were out to regain their absolute power back.

Waryaa,

The Daroods tend to portray them as victims who were suddenly set up in 1991. They white wash over the atrocities committed in the name of Daroodism by the military & state security apparatus in the late 1980s against the Issaq and Hawiye.

The most pivotal moment which really got Aideed to become a rebel were the massacres of the HG especially the Sacad in November 1989. Many Sacad civilians who were NOT USC were slaughtered in Mudug including some close family. These atrocities were committed by the Barre regime especially by a man called Dhagobaceyr. The Somali National Army with support from local Marjeteen tribesmen attacked innocent Sacad civilians in Mudug. When Aideed heard about these massacres, he swore to break the back of those who committed them. He did so in just less than 13 months.

The sad reality is that MSB offered the Sacad money and power if they helped put down the Majeerten SSDF in the early 1980s but the Sacad refused to be involved in oppressing the Majeerten. Many Majeerten fled and hid in Sacad villages during the crackdown. Instead of returning the favor, the Majeerten were active in promoting war against the Sacad in the late 1980s.

So if there was no crackdown against the Issaq and Hawiye, there were would have been no Aideed, Tuur, etc.


Aideed was not the best General that HG had but he was the only fearless one who toke a stand and was willing to die to depose the brutal regime. I will always respect the man for taking a stand when others shied away.


BlueLovelyLady,

Shabelle was a fearless man. He stood up and fought when it was not popular. His contribution to tolka can not be forgotten. Another great fighter was Carabeey, the vanquisher of the SSDF/Dofaarqiiq in Galkayo. His stealth operation in the middle of the night broke the Darood forces in Feb 1991 and had them running in all corners.

Hyper,


I apologize for forgetting to include Adeer Jees. He was a fearless colonel who lead a wing of AntiMarxist Ogaden called SPM. He again stood against the Siyaad regime after seeing the very many atrocities it was committing. His contribution and that of the SPM can not be underestimated.

Today, I hope the Ogaden support the modern day Jess, Prof. Gandhi, and reject the modern day Gabyow, Ahmed Madoobe.

A.W
Shariif shaati weyena ka waran, muuna ka khatarsanay kuligood.

awahab, do you think he took arms to get revenge or was he after the chair and villa Somalia? How did Ali Mahdi become a president instead of him?

what was wrong with aidid you ask? short answer he was a lunatic moryaan who only knew how to loot and destroy, good he died at the hands of his own moryaan millitia in the end..

abdisamad3 wrote:what was wrong with aidid you ask? short answer he was a lunatic moryaan who only knew how to loot and destroy, good he died at the hands of his own moryaan millitia in the end..

here comes another one insulting the dead. some people have no shame.

MrSinister its not an insult .. kalaa barro my gosh ..it is his was he was .... end ur calacaal

abdisamad3 wrote:what was wrong with aidid you ask? short answer he was a lunatic moryaan who only knew how to loot and destroy, good he died at the hands of his own moryaan millitia in the end..

asamad, aisde from emotions, can you look @ him as the man who changed somalia's political landscape. This man unseated a 20 or so year old government, once controlled all southern somalia and for some mysterious reason could not succeed in becoming the next president. What puzzles me is the fact that Somalis either love him or hate him, which makes the legacy he left behind unrealistic and hard to understand.