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Perfect_Order wrote:

Nabeela wrote:I don't know why some people are still in the closet, just come out and tell us what we already know. If you have faith everything should be clear as black and white, I don't know why you feel the need to seek clarification.

Murax is right, some people should be just ignored, they are just looking for reaction.

I made a topic declaring myself, so then how am I in the closet?

nabeela, if I am seeking attention so be it, is that a crime? If it is, then aren't you yourself accused of it? What have you added to the topic other than you agree with murax? You have simply come in to voice YOUR OPINION that murax is correct, either you are attention seeking or arrogant enough to believe that your opinion matters.

So Perfect_Order are you saying you have left Islam and no longer believe in Allah and His Messenger?

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Perfect Order is trying to prove/disprove Islam to himself through the logical deductions of his head.

Perfect_Order wrote:

Nabeela wrote:I don't know why some people are still in the closet, just come out and tell us what we already know. If you have faith everything should be clear as black and white, I don't know why you feel the need to seek clarification.

Murax is right, some people should be just ignored, they are just looking for reaction.

I made a topic declaring myself, so then how am I in the closet?

nabeela, if I am seeking attention so be it, is that a crime? If it is, then aren't you yourself accused of it? What have you added to the topic other than you agree with murax? You have simply come in to voice YOUR OPINION that murax is correct, either you are attention seeking or arrogant enough to believe that your opinion matters.

I don't really care what you are seeking here child, I just think you are one confused kid, one minute posting religious videos and the next declaring your atheistism and now this, if you are this messed up, talk to your local shiekh or your father, don't expect a bunch of folks on cyber land to help you, if you are serious that is, yes we are encouraged to seek knowledge, but this is hardly the place to do so, take my advice and go see your local sheikh about this matter.

October 16th, 2011

Perfect_Order wrote:But the real truth is this, When you are in the Overwhelming presence of ALLAH in HIS Majesty and Beauty, your awe that will have perplexed and bewildered, your brain falling infinitely short of conceptualizing Him, IT WILL COME TO YOU MORE NATURAL THAN BREATHING LA IL'LAHA ILLAL'LAH. It is sad we are not at that stage, but it doesn't diminish the truth, we are failed from ALLAH but that doesn't mean he is any less.

I wonder what changed in the last month and a half.

That is the thing, you never really know, he could be suffering from something, cuz he used to come across very religious, another Grandpa/hutuking in the making.

Nabeela wrote:That is the thing, you never really know, he could be suffering from something, cuz he used to come across very religious, another Grandpa/hutuking in the making.

He was a Suufi though, he wasn't like those guys.

FAH1223 wrote: I wonder what changed in the last month and a half.

I think somebody got hold of PO password

lool nabs ha ee habaarin I never left islam and inshallah I die a beleiver

FAH1223 wrote:

Nabeela wrote:That is the thing, you never really know, he could be suffering from something, cuz he used to come across very religious, another Grandpa/hutuking in the making.

He was a Suufi though, he wasn't like those guys.

I meant, crazy, extreme, etc..


Grandpa, I know I just meant qac, he's in the process becoming qac like you folks

FAH1223 wrote:October 16th, 2011

Perfect_Order wrote:But the real truth is this, When you are in the Overwhelming presence of ALLAH in HIS Majesty and Beauty, your awe that will have perplexed and bewildered, your brain falling infinitely short of conceptualizing Him, IT WILL COME TO YOU MORE NATURAL THAN BREATHING LA IL'LAHA ILLAL'LAH. It is sad we are not at that stage, but it doesn't diminish the truth, we are failed from ALLAH but that doesn't mean he is any less.

I wonder what changed in the last month and a half.

is this real?

By the way, I wish to make clear that I was not apart of this rabid inquisition against Perfect Order by people viciously opposed to even hearing out any opinion which does not conform perfectly with theirs. I think his skepticism is healthy, and if he wishes to return to Islam, great-he will do so with newly energized vigor, and if not peace be with him in whatever way he attains spiritual and intellectual fulfillment.

October 16th, 2011

Perfect_Order wrote:But the real truth is this, When you are in the Overwhelming presence of ALLAH in HIS Majesty and Beauty, your awe that will have perplexed and bewildered, your brain falling infinitely short of conceptualizing Him, IT WILL COME TO YOU MORE NATURAL THAN BREATHING LA IL'LAHA ILLAL'LAH. It is sad we are not at that stage, but it doesn't diminish the truth, we are veiled from ALLAH but that doesn't mean he is any less.

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everyone goes through their own spiritual path, keep it private and hopefully you find something that works for you. i always found spiritual/religious debates to be tedious because they all invariable hinge on personal believes and thats not something that can be easily changed.

personally i have more respect for those who admit they struggle with their faith than hypocrites who claim to be good muslims.

^again this was not a thread meant for personal commentaries.

Perfect_Order wrote:^again this was not a thread meant for personal commentaries.

lol ok. pray tell what was it meant for? is it just a dear diary thread for you?