Religion

[abdikarim86]

Yawn. New Atheism follower of one the Prophets.

Their prophet is Dawkins

[ToughGong]

Yawn. New Atheism follower of one the Prophets.

Their prophet is Dawkins

I though they were a non-prophet organization

Boom boom

[Livelife]

Yawn. New Atheism follower of one the Prophets.

I would contest that claim.

I think for instance, that Hitchens in his rhetorical approach was very militant, for instance in his views about the Iraq war. I strongly disagree with him on many levels. We are coherent about religion though.

Are you as critical towards your prophet, Muhammed? No. For you it is totally OK that he married a 6 year old or mass murdered a jewish tribe. You are not even slightly critical.

So, the only one blindly following a prophet, without any critical consideration is you.

[Saraxnow]

lol. They have 4 Prophets actually

@live, you can argue as you like, but whether you know it or not you are part of this new group.

[SultanOrder]

Livelife go learn some history before you throw around accusations.

[Livelife]

Dawkins, Dennett, Hitchens or Harris would've been our prophets if we agreed with everything that they would utter and every action they would commit. If Dawkins where to rape a little child and I would approve to that and give him a thumbs up, I would be his slave and he would be my prophet.

But no. I disagree with all of them on many levels. For instance, I think Hitchens is too much focused on Christianity and doesn't attack Islam enough. He is also a coward for attacking Iraq in such a heavy anner. Dawkins is a primitive debater but a great scientist. Dennett isn't all that, whilst Harris is a intellectual of class an d gives adequate criticism to Islam.

This is what enlightened human beings would call critical thought. I am critical towards even those I agree with.

But as for Muslims, Muhammed married a 6 year old and they think it is OK, because they are his sheep. NO critical thought. So sad...

[ToughGong]

KOW should be banneed

[Livelife]

KOW should be banneed

Because I've criticized your insecure and fragile faith?

I am amazed at how much religion needs to censor and silence others because it is so insecure of itself it cannot withstand argument.

You all know what I am talking about. If religion is discussed and criticized enough faith would dissolve. That's why you've invented "blasphemy" so you can protect your faith.

[FAH1223]

He's banned. I warned him three times.

He was steadily approaching that limit.

We can discuss religion, ideas, and have a good discourse. But do not throw out insults or demean our faith...

[Saraxnow]

You are comparing a divinely-inspired man (Muhammed saws) with these Prophets of yours? The audacity! smh. They spear-head your arguments, you depend on them to feed you the latest anti-religion rhetoric and most importantly their image survives OFF smearing and attacking religion .i.e they cannot exist without religion to bash.

Well, your Dawkins is not just a primitive debater but a grand coward too (he refuses to debate his ideas with petty and lame excuses).


Btw, I think therefore I cannot be an atheist.

[ToughGong]

He's banned. I warned him three times.

He was steadily approaching that limit.

[ZubeirAwal]

I'll destroy atheism for you

If God, could be touched and seen would that be God?,do you believe in your great-great-great-great-great grandfather?, if yes , have you ever seen her?
In your idiotic logic you must see god to believe in him no?, ok then you see the air, i can't see it yet we breath it, but since we can't see it , it doesn't exist does it?

If we look at the word Iman which means faith, its roots are three letters, Alif Meem Noon,Iman is a verbal noun , there 15 forms of every verb,so you literally get a semantic field by which you'll get new answers of the meanings of the word, Iman is of the fourth form out of the 15 forms, that literally means to make oneself to feel safe and secure.
So the idea here is that faith is an anchoring element in the Human element, and Lack of faith is something that creates a type of trouble, of turbulence within the Human itself. You can see this when you go into surgery, you'll say i have faith in my doctor/surgeon, because you don't want to go into surgery without having faith in your doctor
your going to be a wreck, there's gonna be a lot of trauma, so the idea of faith as a secure factor in the human condition, Without faith the human being is an a hopeless state. If we don't have faith tommorow we'll be in dispair, and humans cannot function well whilst in dispair, hope helps the human being you have something to work for.
There is a story where a man asks a man if he believes in god , the man said No, he said if you fall in a ship in a middle of ocean he said would you give up? he said no the man said why i'll swim out of the hopes of being saved and the man said thats because of god. There is within us this Odd Mechanism that says i'm not gonna give up, this is rooting from the idea of oneself to working himself to making him self and secure,so the believer according to the islamic tradition is called a Mu'min, somebody who's making himself safe, how? in a world of absolute change,we have no sense of security in this world, a person who's in a secure state is in a delusional state, to be safe spiritually , materialism will not help you forever, as you will die soon and you'll go into a sleep like status in a spiritual dimension, the afterlife, whom christoper hitchens himself is having a terrible experience as we speak, revert while you can, because you have a hell of a punishment ahead of you if you don't and this is not me who's giving it to you, i'm just a mere warner just as every single other muslim is.

[Shirib]

So, how is your relationship with religion? Are you full-on practicing? Are you religious by name, whilst wanting to be more practicing? Do you care at all? Or are you just irreligious?

It seems to me that Somalis are becoming slightly more secular and irreligious, so I wanted to hear your opinions.

Religion has affected me in some ways. I don't drink or smoke and I have a particular disdain for dogs.

Other than that, I am not a religious person. I live in a part of the U.S where people are generally very irreligious, invoking religion here in public life is seen as unprofessional and very parochial. Religion here is extracurricular and not a way of life, which i find to be very liberating. People worship in their own homes and visit their temples when they get a chance, but in the public square everyone keeps their faith to themselves and goes about their business in a peaceful way.

As for somali becoming more secular, from my observations that ins't the case. Remember that quote by Obama where he said small town folk in America "cling to guns and religion"? That's the case with people in Somalia. Even here in the West, it's increasingly common to see ladies who wear the veil and young men who switch off between being street thugs and over zealous religion bots. Even all the single mothers in America have discovered these "revival" paltalk phone conference rooms where they increasingly spend their time now.

I believe religion should be a benign positive frame work in which people lead their lives, and not an extreme overbearing dictatorial force. Religion used to be the former in Somalia, but now it's becoming the latter.

There's a class on aqeedah starting next month that im gonna be taking. Its once a week for two hours. Care to join? I think it would be positive and ud like it.

[Shirib]

He's banned. I warned him three times.

He was steadily approaching that limit.

We can discuss religion, ideas, and have a good discourse. But do not throw out insults or demean our faith...

guulwade fah

[Alphanumeric]

I continue to protest that there are only two types of atheists. Only one deserves an audience.