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Re: Somalia: Far from a failed state

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:55 am
by metamorphosis
Alphanumeric wrote:
metamorphosis wrote:Black is the obsorption of all colors. I like brown girls.

:lol: :lol: wrong thread.
:lol:

Re: Somalia: Far from a failed state

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:18 pm
by Saraxnow
I think some of you missed the point of the article,which is changing the way we approach solving the problem. Even with a collapsed state, if Somalis can still function better economically, create effective networks and enterprise that there is hope. She isn't saying be happy with your current condition.
Point being: the solution lies by building from the bottom-up and Somali entrepreneurship.

Re: Somalia: Far from a failed state

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:22 pm
by Alphanumeric
Freemarket enterprise and limited government intervention. :up:

Re: Somalia: Far from a failed state

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:25 pm
by Saraxnow
Alphanumeric wrote:Freemarket enterprise and limited government intervention. :up:
:up: :up:

Re: Somalia: Far from a failed state

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:42 am
by daiman
Saxarow, have you read the book?


We failed and Somalia is a falied state. We need to recognise this and addressed it.

Re: Somalia: Far from a failed state

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:49 am
by PRinCeS_LicK
*Nobleman* wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17080664

Enterprise is the way forth :up:

Positive BBC article for a change, lets keep this thread politics free.

(A trend-setting boutique in Hargeisa is one of several innovative businesses), Import export through Berbera this is all in Somaliland.

I hate to say this but Somalia is a Failed State what we have to realize is that the achievements that are being glorified as Somalia's achievements in that bbc article are in actuality SOMALILAND achievements and as a somalilander we do not want our hard work associated or credited to the south ... Thank you .

Re: Somalia: Far from a failed state

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:56 am
by daiman
PRinCeS_LicK wrote:
*Nobleman* wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17080664

Enterprise is the way forth :up:

Positive BBC article for a change, lets keep this thread politics free.

(A trend-setting boutique in Hargeisa is one of several innovative businesses), Import export through Berbera this is all in Somaliland.

I hate to say this but Somalia is a Failed State what we have to realize is that the achievements that are being glorified as Somalia's achievements in that bbc article are in actuality SOMALILAND achievements and as a somalilander we do not want our hard work associated or credited to the south ... Thank you .

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Somalia: Far from a failed state

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:57 am
by greenday
PRinCeS_LicK wrote:
*Nobleman* wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17080664

Enterprise is the way forth :up:

Positive BBC article for a change, lets keep this thread politics free.



Somalia is a Failed State what we have to realize is that the achievements that are being glorified as Somalia's achievements are in actuality SOMALILAND achievements and as a somalilander we do not want our hard work associated or credited to the south ... Thank you .
Oooh please the only thing that might be credited to SL is peace and ooh PL has been peaceful for the last 13 years with a state. This articles main focus is the economy and Alhamdulilah south with the "war" has done itself justice in that department :up:

Re: Somalia: Far from a failed state

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:04 am
by Saraxnow
@daiman. I was referring to the article (link posted in op) assuming everyone read it. Failed or not,I'm not trying to convince anyone either way.But, I think she tried to give a different idea as to how to deal with issues,because clearly from what we can see the methods employed in state-building isn't working.

Re: Somalia: Far from a failed state

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:27 am
by PRinCeS_LicK
greenday wrote:
PRinCeS_LicK wrote:
*Nobleman* wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17080664

Enterprise is the way forth :up:

Positive BBC article for a change, lets keep this thread politics free.



Somalia is a Failed State what we have to realize is that the achievements that are being glorified as Somalia's achievements are in actuality SOMALILAND achievements and as a somalilander we do not want our hard work associated or credited to the south ... Thank you .
Oooh please the only thing that might be credited to SL is peace and ooh PL has been peaceful for the last 13 years with a state. This articles main focus is the economy and Alhamdulilah south with the "war" has done itself justice in that department :up:
Puntland can never be credited with peace They are a piracy save heaven.
Somaliland and Puntland can Not be put in the Same breath nor sentence. We hold somalia on our shoulders.

However if you unedit what i have said and look at the quotes the economic achievements mentioned in the article where that of Somaliland not Somalia, you must remember that somalia is in the grips of Famine where people are starving to death and mass immigration is/has taken place where major shanty towns were established this is not the climate for economic success. Somaliland also donated in the reliefe of somalia's famine issues however please do not attribute our achievements and our hard work to the south Somalia is a Failed State thank you.

Re: Somalia: Far from a failed state

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:32 am
by greenday
Princes, please the only thing i can give to SL is peace inta kale waa la idinka horeeya, PLna haku qaraarin because they matched you in most areas in less time :lol:

Seen that SL had 21 years of peace ineey the rest of Somalis maanta lagu masliyo maba aheen, if i make £100 in war and you make the same or less in peace ma ifani kartaa :lol: :down:

Re: Somalia: Far from a failed state

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:36 am
by PRinCeS_LicK
greenday wrote:Princes, please the only thing i can give to SL is peace inta kale waa la idinka horeeya, PLna haku qaraarin because they matched you in most areas in less time :lol:

Seen that SL had 21 years of peace ineey the rest of Somalis maanta lagu masliyo maba aheen, if i make £100 in war and you make the same or less in peace ma ifani kartaa :lol: :down:

What? Walaahi im sorry but I really did not understand what your are trying to tell me?

Re: Somalia: Far from a failed state

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:41 am
by greenday
Ok, ill say it again, SL, the rest of Somalis waxa bis ee dheer yihin waa peace and that is quickly being matched by PL with 13 of peace and statehood under its belt. Now wax gooni eh ood kufaantid maheysatide stop with the SL is carrying the rest of Somalis nonsense :up:

Re: Somalia: Far from a failed state

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:44 am
by PRinCeS_LicK
greenday wrote:Ok, ill say it again, SL, the rest of Somalis waxa bis ee dheer yihin waa peace and that is quickly being matched by PL with 13 of peace and statehood under its belt. Now wax gooni eh ood kufaantid maheysatide stop with the SL is carrying the rest of Somalis nonsense :up:

I still do not get Your point? Was has this got to do with the topic at hand? it says somalia is far from a failed state backed by an bbc article which is atributing Somalilands achievements to the south? I merely pointed it out for us all lol

Clearly judging by this article we are carrying you on our shoulders :) No point at getting mad for stating the obvious everything else you said is just Bla Bla Faan Faan Bla Bla im just stating the Obvious misconceptions here dude. :) Somalia is a failed state

Re: Somalia: Far from a failed state

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:54 am
by greenday
PRinCeS_LicK wrote:
greenday wrote:Ok, ill say it again, SL, the rest of Somalis waxa bis ee dheer yihin waa peace and that is quickly being matched by PL with 13 of peace and statehood under its belt. Now wax gooni eh ood kufaantid maheysatide stop with the SL is carrying the rest of Somalis nonsense :up:

I still do not get Your point? Was has this got to do with the topic at hand? it says somalia is far from a failed state backed by an bbc article which is atributing Somalilands achievements to the south? I merely pointed it out for us all lol

Clearly judging by this article we are carrying you on our shoulders :) No point at getting mad for stating the obvious everything else you said is just Bla Bla Faan Faan Bla Bla im just stating the Obvious misconceptions here dude. :) Somalia is a failed state

Was it not you who came to this topic and said Somalia should stop cliaming our success? Anyway it seems like your dreaming because claiming that SL is more successful than the rest is just a lie, its getting to the stage where SL is compared with PL, and you want to be a wadan :lol: in few years Galmudug will be in the same level as SL if you dont make a move on with the Independence thing :lol: