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Re: Turkey's Grand Mufti SLAMS Saudi mufti over churches

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:25 pm
by Saraxnow
Estarix wrote:http://hadithcollection.com/sahihmuslim ... -4366.html
Sahih Muslim Book 19. Jihad and Expedition
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Chapter : Evacuation of the Jews from the Hijiz.

It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.

Dude,he wanted the original text, not English. :|

Re: Turkey's Grand Mufti SLAMS Saudi mufti over churches

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:44 pm
by Estarix
Couldnt find any but found this.

http://www.dorar.net/enc/hadith/

Re: Turkey's Grand Mufti SLAMS Saudi mufti over churches

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:47 pm
by Lillaahiya
union wrote:
Lillaahiya wrote:Up until very recently, most Jews were Arab and identified themselves as Arabs. I can appreciate why they'd refuse to move to Israel where they'll be treated like second class citizens because they're not of European descent.
I can assure you that any Arab Jew would have a better life in Israel than in any Arab country. Arabs have always been jealous and envious of the Jews and are extremely hostile towards them.
Ironic how these jealous and envious Arabs were not behind the systematic annihilation of Jews ;)
Saraxnow wrote: You mean Arab nationalist Jews in Arab countries,or you mean the Mizrahi Jews?.The Mizrahi Jews are discriminated against by their fellow Ashkenazi/European Jews funnily enough.

There was documentary on Moroccan Jews,there's a large number of them and they sounded patriotic, but I'm guessing the ones that live near Palestine are hardly so, for obvious reasons.
Ethnic Arab Jews/Mizrahis.

Re: Turkey's Grand Mufti SLAMS Saudi mufti over churches

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:01 pm
by kadarre
The jews from Yemen their children were used as lab rats same goes for the Sephardic Jews. if you are not an ashkenazi jew you aint shit.

The Falasha jews are treated like animals their numbers are being controlled.


Re: Turkey's Grand Mufti SLAMS Saudi mufti over churches

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:14 pm
by miskeen86
if they burn churches in gulf states, then western countries will burn mosques. what will that mufti say then?

Re: Turkey's Grand Mufti SLAMS Saudi mufti over churches

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:36 pm
by union
miskeen86 wrote:if they burn churches in gulf states, then western countries will burn mosques. what will that mufti say then?
Probably "make jihad on the infidels"


Oh wait, he already says that!!

Re: Turkey's Grand Mufti SLAMS Saudi mufti over churches

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:43 pm
by NoAngst.
This is I respect Turks. They don't take shit from retarded Arabs. These Arabs have been inbreeding for so many generations that they're congenitally retared.

Re: Turkey's Grand Mufti SLAMS Saudi mufti over churches

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:12 am
by James Dahl
That hadith is probably bullcrap, the Rashidun caliphate had the power to expel all Christians and Jews from Arabia if they wanted to do so, but there is no evidence of this ever happening.
Medina had a big Jewish community once, back when it was called "Yathrib".

Modern Jewish historians make a big deal out of how the early Medina state had conflict with 3 tribes of Yathrib Jews, but they were pardoned after battle and exiled only from Medina, not the entire Arabian peninsula.

Re: Turkey's Grand Mufti SLAMS Saudi mufti over churches

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:17 am
by Alphanumeric
James Dahl wrote:That hadith is probably bullcrap, the Rashidun caliphate had the power to expel all Christians and Jews from Arabia if they wanted to do so, but there is no evidence of this ever happening.
Medina had a big Jewish community once, back when it was called "Yathrib".

Modern Jewish historians make a big deal out of how the early Medina state had conflict with 3 tribes of Yathrib Jews, but they were pardoned after battle and exiled only from Medina, not the entire Arabian peninsula.
It's one thing to disagree with the notion, but it's another throw an accusation such as this. Whether or not the hadith is fabricated isn't what's in question, but that of it being used as political clout.

I request you apologize.

Re: Turkey's Grand Mufti SLAMS Saudi mufti over churches

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:44 pm
by James Dahl
I apologize if I offended anyone, I could have said it more appropriately.

But the evidence is against this having ever actually occurred. Like I said before, if the prophet or the early Caliphs had felt this way, they had the power to carry it out, but there were Jews and Christians in the Arabian peninsula up to modern times.

Re: Turkey's Grand Mufti SLAMS Saudi mufti over churchs

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:07 pm
by Thuganomics
Alphanumeric wrote:I've read that the peninsula is only for Muslims. Meaning that the constructions of places of worship is illegal.

Wait, I just read the entire peninsula must be free of anyone who isn't a Muslim :lol:
Ditto on the first point