Important discussion

[Khalid Ali]

It didoes effect me nor does it effect Somaliland and you know that why do you care Somaliland never ever tried to change Somalia the past 21 years Because it doesn't effect them at all and they know it Koonfurians also don't care either and dont wanne share a Mamuul together thats why they suggest clan federalism hellow they dont trust each other no trust no compromise and every one is a sultan in his own village ha dhakhleyso Kan sahan galbeed waxan is yidha mar mar mala 21 sannood eeh ugu danbeyey wu hurday adeer ma cisbitaal baad dhex huruday walanweynta siyasadooda manad la socon horta

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Sland should unite with Somalia only if Pigs are seen flying.

[Khalid Ali]

Sland should unite with Somalia only if Pigs are seen flying.

[nomadicwarlord]

Negotiation is a dialogue between two or more people or parties, intended to reach an understanding, resolve point of difference, to produce an agreement upon courses of action.
What are you willing to give up ?

Negotiations and dialogue is what produced the TFG, Somaliland, Puntland, Galmudug and others. Don't you think it will be counterproductive suggesting equivalent entities without regards to the current reality on the ground? Keep in mind of all those years of political deadlock, mistrust and uncertainty play a big role in all this.

[SahanGalbeed]

It didoes effect me nor does it effect Somaliland and you know that why do you care Somaliland never ever tried to change Somalia the past 21 years

Eeg marka si qof weyn loo hadlayo , runta ayaa la isku sheega .
20yrs ayay Somaliland damacsan tahay iney ka go'do Somaliya .
Sababtu waxay ku xidhantahay , iska hor imaad qabyaaladu ku fadhiya.
Somaliya , 20 sannadood ayaynu ku nidhi , ina sii daaya , way inaga diideen.
Haddaba , meeshan waxa la raba is bedel . 20 sanno o dambe sidan haddi la isku hor fadhiiyo , budhcad badeed , argagaxiso , aabaro shacab ka laya , iyo tahriib badweynta liqdo ayuun ba inoo qoran .

Arrintan , anigu , waxay ila eegtahay wax " fair " ah . Haddey socon waydo , adigu Emperior ahaan iyo "position" ka aad ka hadlayso ayaa gooni isu taagaaga la hoyana .
Haddi Somalida kale inaga aqbasho na , waa lagu wada badbaadaya .
Waxani waa "new proposal "
Some guy once said

A ship is safe in harbor, but that's not what ships are for.”

[Khalid Ali]

Sahanow adeer bal wayahey horta Walanweynta la so sheekeyo end conclusionkaga ii sheeg marku topicani dhamaado anigu waan ku sii sheegey ok

[SahanGalbeed]

Negotiation is a dialogue between two or more people or parties, intended to reach an understanding, resolve point of difference, to produce an agreement upon courses of action.
What are you willing to give up ?

Negotiations and dialogue is what produced the TFG, Somaliland, Puntland, Galmudug and others. Don't you think it will be counterproductive suggesting equivalent entities without regards to the current reality on the ground? Keep in mind of all those years of political deadlock, mistrust and uncertainty play a big role in all this.

mistrust and uncertainty
Let me read between the lines here
So you're refering to mistrust and uncertainty for justifying your reluctance to have Puntland { majeerten} and galmudug {habar gidir sacad} join hands . right?
Are you prepared to grant Somaliland, the same justification ? that would basically equal to recognising Somaliland to go its own way .
I think not !
Let's be serious here my friends

[Nomand]

is sahan a idoor or a djibouti frenchman?

[Nomand]

how can you put hutus, ilkayars and xurufles in the same federal zone? will never work.

jubbaland = hutu free and xurufle free.

[SahanGalbeed]

Sidaad wax u wada qabsan lahaydeen , idinka iga og .
Anigu kor baan u socda , inu wax iga soo go'o na , ogola baan ka ahay.
Habar Yoonis oo calan gooni ah samaysata , Habar Awal oo calan gooni ah samaysta , Habar Jeclo Burco xaasimad ka dhigata , iyo ciidagalo talyaniga iskood ula xidhiidha , wax aqliga inoo galaya ma'aha
Markii hore ba inagaad inagu dayanayseen e , halkeynu u socono maydaan fahmin baan filaya


PS : cayda waan idin ogolahay , ee de laakin , bal de arrintana ka hadla

[nomadicwarlord]

Sahan - Don't read between the lines I recognize Somaliland as an entity within Somalia same way I do with other regional administrations. I will never recognize any region that breaks away from Somalia even if my family hails from there. There is mistrust and uncertain all over the country thus it will be hard for people to try to give up something. We are Somalis at the end of the day bound by lineage and religion. I thought all of us already joined hands with this

[SahanGalbeed]

Sahan - Don't read between the lines I recognize Somaliland as an entity within Somalia same way I do with other regional administrations. I will never recognize any region that breaks away from Somalia even if my family hails from there. There is mistrust and uncertain all over the country thus it will be hard for people to try to give up something. We are Somalis at the end of the day bound by lineage and religion. I thought all of us already joined hands with this

My friend , anigu I have said , I am willing/eager/excited to finally have talks with Somalia .
If I were given that chance , this would be my proposal.
We are bound by lineage and religion --> true
However we also have a painful past .
My plan here speaks to the core of the problem .
3 big multi tribal states , based on an existing regional ,traditional pull /affinity

[nomadicwarlord]

If I were given that chance , this would be my proposal.
We are bound by lineage and religion --> true
However we also have a painful past .
My plan here speaks to the core of the problem .
3 big multi tribal states , based on an existing regional ,traditional pull /affinity

Put in paper and start circulating this

[SahanGalbeed]

Well if it is as good as I think it is , somebody else might eventually pick it up and run with it , doesn't have to be me

[skywalker25]

Sahan your trully ahead of your time. Dont let these blind people bring you to their level. The likes of Khalid and their zero sum game will be history found in text book which will oneday preach all Somalis are the same, regardless of tribe.

I dont understand the logic of love, Ogadens/Dhulbhnates who worked tirelessly for the regime and hate the southern Hawiyes who helped destroy the regime...