List of Tribal Leaders Ee Ansixinta Dastuurka Somalia

[greenday]

Cali peace might not be easy to establish but PL did ma beenba masa wa run? i still dont see why you call me ignorant, you guys have SSC and Awdal marka so what if PL want their own states I do not see anything exceptional in SL

Again, i see this as being pointless. You are way to ignorant walahi, there's a thin line between your ignorance and stupidy at the moment.

Let me break it down as easy as possible for you.

Puntland consists of mainly Harti.

Within this group there are 3 clans. They did not get along with one of the three clans that dominate their politics thus create maamuls here and there.

Somaliland consist of larger and more clans. Would it be feasable for Habarjeclo, Habar Younis, Sacad Muuse, etc to start their own Maamul each? Yes or No.

In addition, you are constantly raising this Awdal issue. To me it appears as if it's more of your imagination that sees thinks from your point of view and your ignorance preventing you to see the reality. Anyone can create a maamul in Canada or America held in a hotel. You'd rather accept this that occured for a few months here and there than the 21 years of their active involvement in Awdal itself.

This ssc crap comes down to 1 tribe and is split over 3 maamuls. By the way, i'm pretty sure you don't even know what SSC is.

As for puntlands peace, if you have pirates controlling your costs freely as they please, kidnapp people for years in villages, have caaqils killed in broad day light and people get gunned down inside masjids it's still comparable to Somalilands. Yes i get it, you're not ignorant but very smart indeed.

Keep calling me name but it wont change nothing, why are you making out as if SL is so diverse? waa Isaaq mainly just like PL is mainly MJ, you have other minorities and so do they! plus i dont see how the qabiils are relevant. PL is a smaller version of SL which happens to be functioning just like you madiidantahay? Can you tell me that Somaliland has better living standards then PL or even Xamar apart from the war?

Whats funny is you pick on small things are aqils getting killed and kidnappings which can happen anywhere, why dont you tell me something that will surprise me! something Somalia does not have?

[Khalid Ali]

Daahir Rayaale: Somaliland Weligeed La Midoobi Mayso Somaliya
“Somaliland Weligeed La Midoobi Mayso Somaliya, Haddii Ay Isku Dayaan Inay Nagu Qasbaana, Waxaanu Diyaar U Nahay Dagaal Ilaa Aanu Madhano”

Nov 5th, 2011

Hargeysa(Geeska)-Madaxweynihii hore ee Somaliland ayaa yarkasi cad ugu sheegay mudane ka tirsan aqalka odayaasha Maraykanka oo lagu magacaabo Senator Feingold, inay bulshada Somaliland dagaal ka xigto midnimo dambe oo ay la galaan Somaliya.



Warsidaha Wikileaks ee faafiya siraha kala duwan ee ay safaaradaha Maraykanku u diraan xaruntooda Washington, ayaa dhawaan baahiyay waxyaabihii lagaga wada hadlay kulan dhex maray Madaxweynihii hore Daahir Rayaale Kaahin iyo Senatar Feingold oo bishii December ee sannadkii 2009 ka dhacay dalka Djibouti, markaas oo uu xildhibaanku safar ku yimid gobalka Geeska Afrika islamarkaana uu Djibouti kula kulmay hoggaamiyayaashii xilligaas ee Somaliland iyo Somaliya.

Sida uu wikileaks baahiyay kulamadaas oo qabsoomay 19-21 December 2009, wuxuu senatorku ugu horayn Madaxweynihii hore ka tacsiyadeeyay qaraxyadii 2008 ka dhacay Somaliland. Daahir Rayaale, wuxuu Senator Feingold u sheegay in qaar ka mid ah dadkii gaystay qaraxyadadaas Somaliland ka dhacay 29 Oktoobar ay ka soo jeedeen Somaliland, laakiin ay ku soo tababarteen dalka Somaliya. “Laakiin xag jirku waa isku mid, macno ma leh meesha ay ka soo jeedaan iyo meesha ay ka yimaadeen, dhammaantood waa isku ajande.” Ayuu Daahir Rayaale Kaahin ku yidhi Senatarka.

Wuxuu sheegay in inta badan ee dadka reer Somaliland ay Booliska la shaqeeyaan iyagoo siinaya xogta lagu qaban karo argagixisada. Daahir Rayaale Kaahin wuxuu qaraxyadii 29 Oktoobar ku macneeyay, “Waxay noo ahaayeen baraarujin sidii Maraykanka ee September 11.”, waxaanu intaas raaciyay in qaraxyadaas ka sokow ay Somaliland ku jirtay hayaanka dawlad wanaaga tan iyo sannadkii 1991-kii.

Isagoo Daahir Rayaale, ka hadlaya aqoonsiga Somaliland, wuxuu sheegay in hadii ay heli lahaayeen caawimo toos ah ay awood u yeelan lahaayeen inay iska caabiyaan xag jirka. Waxaanu sheegay in haddii Somaliland la aqoonsado ay door ka ciyaari karto arrimaha koonfurta iyadoo cudud ku biirin karta Djibouti iyo Itoobiya. Wuxuu carrabka ku adkeeyay munaafaqnimada bulshada caalamka ee ku waajahan aqoonsiga dawladda ku meelgaadhka ah ee Somaliya oo aan shaqayn iyo sababta ay aqoonsan waayeen Jamhuuriyadda Somaliland ee shaqaynaysa.

Isagoo ka hadlaya midnimadii Somaliya, wuxuu sheegay inay reer Somaliland tijaabiyeen midowga Somaliya oo ay arkeen midhihiisa, “Somaliland waxay samaysay midowgii, waanay tijaabisay mana jirto suurtogalnimo kale oo Somali weyn ahi.” Ayuu yidhi Rayaale.

Rayaale, wuxuu sheegay inay Somaliland ka duwantahay Somaliya, isagoo sheegay inay madaxda Somaliya isku mashquuliyaan inay arrin kasta ka yeeshaan shirweyne, “Xataa arrimaha yar yar, dhibaatadu Somaliya waxa weeye in qof kastaa uu isku dayayo inuu hoggaamiye noqdo, waxaanay aaminsanyihiin in xalku dibadda uga iman doono.

Wuxuu Daahir Rayale Kaahin Senator Feingold u sheegay inay Somaliland midnimo dambe ka xigto dagaal ay ku hoobato, “Somalilland weligeed la midoobi mayso Somaliya, haddii ay isku dayaan inay nagu qasbaana, waxaanu diyaar u nahay inaanu dagaalano ilaa aanu madhano.” Ayuu ku soo koobay Madaxweynihii hore doodda uu la hortagay Senator Feingold.

[greenday]

Khalid, in all honest i dont even care if you guys have your Independence but am starting to think that your people dont even want that, seems like they were just waiting for koofur to be stable.

I will end the night with this quote of yours and shall raise it in the future.

You have managed to draw conclusions from the recent 'tribal elder' that went to Mogadishu and percieve it as being the wishes of the rest.

It's 18th of May next week, you shall see then and i will bring this post up. Habeen wanaagsan.

What will you bring up? 18 may parties? and people back home celebrating their state's success? nothing i have not seen before and dont mind people celebrating SL even as part of

[Executive]

Its funny how the secessionist cant stand on two legs when the hypocrisy and flaws in their arguments are pointed out.

[greenday]

Oo yaa idinla dagaalayo? we had enough of war plus we would woop your ass

[gemini07]

Puntland is based on a daarood sub clan of harti. Three of it's main clans Majerteen, dhulbahante and warsangeli can not even compromise over their little politics causing each of these clans wanting their own 'state' and still yelling for Somaliweyn unity. Their 3 leaders have been selected in a room of a abandoned building which has led to 3 leaders of 3 majerteen clans. Here we have you claiming we are no different.

how can a building be abandoned if it is being used to select leaders of a state? i'm pretty sure there's a term for that type of building and 'abandoned' isn't it.

Puntland consists of mainly Harti.

Within this group there are 3 clans. They did not get along with one of the three clans that dominate their politics thus create maamuls here and there.

Somaliland consist of larger and more clans. Would it be feasable for Habarjeclo, Habar Younis, Sacad Muuse, etc to start their own Maamul each? Yes or No.

lol @ somaliland consists of larger and more clans. great argument you've got there.

you can't have it both ways. you can't claim that puntland = majerteeniya and that dhulos and warsangeli are apart of somaliland & then argue that puntland consists mainly of harti and that 3 groups within this clan could not get along. the isaaq clans are united in their desire for secession and the harti clans are united in their desire to remain apart of somalia. btw, was it not your clan that was making threats if they were not given their "turn" on the seat? so how is that any different from what happened in PL?

[CaliBurco]

If it's Isaaq mainly why isn't their a daarood government or a hawiye government?

The only reason we are stuck in a limbo is because we are tied to your dead carcass making us do with the little resources we have available. Your government gets more money and yet not a single hospital is build for you.

I think we have a government and somalia doesn't have one. If they did they would be able to explain where their money went, ours have accountability and most of the money is accounted for. Since you keep downplaying everything that's presented to you its clear that nothing will satisfy you.

Goodnight and I shall raise that quote again in the near future.

[Khalid Ali]

Oo yaa idinla dagaalayo? we had enough of war plus we would woop your ass

Somalia dee who else we have been fighting you're Country in an ugly border war the past 20 years maybe adigu waad huruday laakin dagaal ba socday

inantani may huruday ma marku sh sharif madaxweyne noqday baad so toostay.

We know war and peace if Somalia wants war we will give them war if they want peace we will give them peace

[KingWaslawi]

To Khalid iyo CaliBurco

Waar Waxan aad la hadlaysaa qof caadiya maaha, ee wakhti ha ku luminina Greenday aniga ayaa aqaana,
waa mid la odhan jiray (Lil_Miss) oo Somalilife soo gali jirtay years of 2009 and 2010 waanay dhukan tahay, oo adigoo idaajaa akhriyaaya ayay al kahf kuula boodaysaa, horena waxba uma fahanto...Waxaanay ka samaysan tahay, muran qaylo, iyo jikaar.

[gemini07]

Oo yaa idinla dagaalayo? we had enough of war plus we would woop your ass

Somalia dee who else we have been fighting you're Country in an ugly border war the past 20 years maybe adigu waad huruday laakin dagaal ba socday

inantani may huruday ma marku sh sharif madaxweyne noqday baad so toostay.

We know war and peace if Somalia wants war we will give them war if they want peace we will give them peace

you know damn well who you border and it isn't mogadishu/the seat of the somali government so it isn't the choice of "somalia" whether it wants war or peace with you, but that of your neighbours. i see now why you guys reacted so negatively when PL pushed its way into your talks with the tfg.

[Executive]

Somalia dee who else we have been fighting you're Country in an ugly border war the past 20 years maybe adigu waad huruday laakin dagaal ba socday

inantani may huruday ma marku sh sharif madaxweyne noqday baad so toostay.

We know war and peace if Somalia wants war we will give them war if they want peace we will give them peace

You have been fighting reer buuhoodle you mean

[greenday]

If it's Isaaq mainly why isn't their a daarood government or a hawiye government?

The only reason we are stuck in a limbo is because we are tied to your dead carcass making us do with the little resources we have available. Your government gets more money and yet not a single hospital is build for you.

I think we have a government and somalia doesn't have one. If they did they would be able to explain where their money went, ours have accountability and most of the money is accounted for. Since you keep downplaying everything that's presented to you its clear that nothing will satisfy you.

Goodnight and I shall raise that quote again in the near future.

Why would there be a Hawiye or Darood president

All you could come up with is you dont have hospitals ma hargeysa the wounded and the sick lolasoo carara we didnt have a government for a long time sxb now that we do you can see things are coming back! Maybe our government gets more money because they have more people to look after and they are fighting a war and remember they dont collect much tax

[greenday]

To Khalid iyo CaliBurco

Waar Waxan aad la hadlaysaa qof caadiya maaha, ee wakhti ha ku luminina Greenday aniga ayaa aqaana,
waa mid la odhan jiray (Lil_Miss) oo Somalilife soo gali jirtay years of 2009 and 2010 waanay dhukan tahay, oo adigoo idaajaa akhriyaaya ayay al kahf kuula boodaysaa, horena waxba uma fahanto...Waxaanay ka samaysan tahay, muran qaylo, iyo jikaar.

Who doesnt know my slife name lakiin you seem upset why?

[CaliBurco]

Gemini, my i dont remember my clan making such statements. I do remmeber two forumers saying such thing.

Green, everything is flying over your head walee. Did i say daarood or hawiye president? Really?

Let's end it here hadaba.

Again, 'things are coming back' doesn't mean nothing to me when you have had the world tell you what to do how to live and your president gets escorted to the toilet. Please, it's not healthy when you look down on others constantly. That's all I was trying to convey to you but you keep turning the other cheek.

[greenday]

Cali, am i denying Somalia is a mess? lakiin when you are not in state much better than that mess you cant really say much can you?