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Re: Working in the Gulf Arab Countries

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gurey25 wrote:guys i live here and let me tell you that the good old days are gone.
20 years ago a bachelor degree would have you got you good pay, better than in the west, usually free accommodation and a a good lifestyle, especially for families.
10 years ago a bachelor degree and 2 to 5 years experience would get you the same .
10 years ago cadaan were worshiped and given amazing pay and perks, but things have changed.
Today there are 200,000 emaratis entering the workforce within the next 10 years , thats 20,000 a year .this trend has been building since the last 10 years.
There is a government program of nationalization, meaning companies will be set a quota of emaratis to hire, so they will be forced to hire less expats and more locals.
20 years ago cadaan westerners were still not so numerous and a rare sight so they were a privileged elite.
10 years ago from 2000 onwards there has been an explosion of westerners comming into the country , i think there must be nearly 400,000 out of 8.5 million people today.
There are so many cadaan westerners that they no longer command such high salaries, there is an equalization in the market, and skills and experience count more than origin today.
Supply and demand.

I have a few westerners in my department and i earn more than all of them.
allot of indians and arabs like egyptians palestinians earn more than them.

they are getting the same pay as everyone else today.

the stories you hear are from 10 years back.

In the UAE job market there is massive competition , a degree is not enough you need experience more than 5 years minimum and specialized qualifications.
Furthermore its not worth it going for IT jobs because for every job you apply for there are 20 indians with more experience than you, more techniclas qualifications than you
and willing to work for 1/4 what you are willing to work for and willing to work crazy hours and and also take abuse from their employers while kissing their ass?

Why hire you an uppity somali/westerner when you can get slaves to work for you?



The only good jobs available are management jobs, project management, marketing and creative stuff were you interact with people.
slaves cannot do those kinds of jobs, so highly polished Indians, Arabs and westerners come in.
I saw these butt-kissing baaniyaals in my workplace too. They work with me and I have never seen people like them. These people believe the more they are closer to the cadaan the more successfull they become. In the place that I work, there is this director and the only manager that reports to her is a cadaan guy. She would kiss his shoes and she would shake her head like those baaniyaal folks do "yes, yes, yes." A fellow Muslim from the same place that they come from told me "she beliefs he is the boss due to a legacy that the British colonials left there." I saw it too.
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Re: Working in the Gulf Arab Countries

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udun wrote:What about Qatar? Is it expensive as Dubai?

More expensive. Doha House prices is out of this world.
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I got a job offer to work in Kuwait. I consulted some people and they told Me that Country is friggin depressing. Its basically nothing more than a Giant militiary base. Only Khaleej Country I'd want to work in is either UAE or KSA.
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Murax wrote:I got a job offer to work in Kuwait. I consulted some people and they told Me that Country is friggin depressing. Its basically nothing more than a Giant militiary base. Only Khaleej Country I'd want to work in is either UAE or KSA.

Oman is not bad wallahi, The people are nice. I have even seen many omani who are 3rd or 4th Generatiopn somali's as well. They are the best Gulf Arabs and Like horners and respect them, and unlike Emirati The omani are actually More pure Arabs Than the mixed persians/Hindi/Syrian Emirati. You would always find that the More pure Arab they are the more friendly and close they feel to Horners, Its those Arabised Inbreds who Give attitute. its very very hard to get a good job in oman with a good pay though. UAE is not bad but you need to assess if its worth it to move there. Qatar is very expensive. Kuwait don't know much about but heard its boring and dead Like bahrian. KSA is the best Laakin No way you would get a job there paying as much as what UAE or Qatar offers these days.
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kuwait more expensive than qatar! there dinar just kills all you assets. 1 dinar is $4 us.

doha is not expensive at all. maybe i just got use to it. i was born n lived all my life here but when i go kuwait, it's just crazy expensive. actually kuwait more fun and open than us.
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hyperactive wrote:kuwait more expensive than qatar! there dinar just kills all you assets. 1 dinar is $4 us.

doha is not expensive at all. maybe i just got use to it. i was born n lived all my life here but when i go kuwait, it's just crazy expensive. actually kuwait more fun and open than us.
How are the kuwaiti's??? The one i came across are the most arrogant Gulf arabs going around. Are they all like that too?
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MidriGeez wrote: Oman is not bad wallahi, The people are nice. I have even seen many omani who are 3rd or 4th Generatiopn somali's as well. They are the best Gulf Arabs and Like horners and respect them, and unlike Emirati The omani are actually More pure Arabs Than the mixed persians/Hindi/Syrian Emirati. You would always find that the More pure Arab they are the more friendly and close they feel to Horners, Its those Arabised Inbreds who Give attitute. its very very hard to get a good job in oman with a good pay though. UAE is not bad but you need to assess if its worth it to move there. Qatar is very expensive. Kuwait don't know much about but heard its boring and dead Like bahrian. KSA is the best Laakin No way you would get a job there paying as much as what UAE or Qatar offers these days.
Omani folks are indeed beyond friendly MashaaAllah. Interesting@ the underlined.. Didn't know that..
The locals looked blackish to me, not just skin tone but also feature wise.. :|
I remember instantly noticing the difference between the UAE and Oman as soon as we got to the border.. One was crowded with high-rises while the other side of the border very rarely exceeded two storey.. :|

I prefered Oman though.. :up: People can make or break a place imo.
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MidriGeez wrote:
hyperactive wrote:kuwait more expensive than qatar! there dinar just kills all you assets. 1 dinar is $4 us.

doha is not expensive at all. maybe i just got use to it. i was born n lived all my life here but when i go kuwait, it's just crazy expensive. actually kuwait more fun and open than us.
How are the kuwaiti's??? The one i came across are the most arrogant Gulf arabs going around. Are they all like that too?
actually, i think better than qataris " in general". little open minded people. im sure you will come bad and good people but in general, easy people to deal with.
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Gurey,


Can you PM me websites for their universities? I want to check job postings they have. Or drop them here bro.
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WestLdnShawty wrote:
MidriGeez wrote: Oman is not bad wallahi, The people are nice. I have even seen many omani who are 3rd or 4th Generatiopn somali's as well. They are the best Gulf Arabs and Like horners and respect them, and unlike Emirati The omani are actually More pure Arabs Than the mixed persians/Hindi/Syrian Emirati. You would always find that the More pure Arab they are the more friendly and close they feel to Horners, Its those Arabised Inbreds who Give attitute. its very very hard to get a good job in oman with a good pay though. UAE is not bad but you need to assess if its worth it to move there. Qatar is very expensive. Kuwait don't know much about but heard its boring and dead Like bahrian. KSA is the best Laakin No way you would get a job there paying as much as what UAE or Qatar offers these days.
Omani folks are indeed beyond friendly MashaaAllah. Interesting@ the underlined.. Didn't know that..
The locals looked blackish to me, not just skin tone but also feature wise.. :|
I remember instantly noticing the difference between the UAE and Oman as soon as we got to the border.. One was crowded with high-rises while the other side of the border very rarely exceeded two storey.. :|

I prefered Oman though.. :up: People can make or break a place imo.
They are really DOWN TO EARTH.. and they are slightly Tanner in skin tone which how Original Arabs would look like, the Name oman originate from one of the few qabil who are original arabs and not arabised, the whole emirate actually belong to their kingdom for hundreds of Years it was all Oman Kingdom. They would Treat you like a human being, Most taxi drivers are omani as well, and in Muscat you would walk around and feel the respect especially if you are muslim regardless of where you come from. Wallahi may allah bless them their upbringing and Dealing with other nationality is how the arab were known for. Many Somali's wouldn't relaise But usually the arab Close Friends they make who are from the Gulf Most likely belongs to a tribe who are one of the original arabs, I have met many of them who tells me they just feel Closer to Horners Than other arabs who are arabised because the arabised arabs want to proof they are more arabs than them and therefore Treat Non arabs bad while horners don't have to proof anything and are more geniune.
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Westldnshawty,

You are aware that Oman controlled big chunks of Eastern Africa? Those people you saw hail from there.

Midrigeez 3adil kalaamak. I :heart: Oman & its people.
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MidriGeez wrote:
Murax wrote:I got a job offer to work in Kuwait. I consulted some people and they told Me that Country is friggin depressing. Its basically nothing more than a Giant militiary base. Only Khaleej Country I'd want to work in is either UAE or KSA.

Oman is not bad wallahi, The people are nice. I have even seen many omani who are 3rd or 4th Generatiopn somali's as well. They are the best Gulf Arabs and Like horners and respect them, and unlike Emirati The omani are actually More pure Arabs Than the mixed persians/Hindi/Syrian Emirati. You would always find that the More pure Arab they are the more friendly and close they feel to Horners, Its those Arabised Inbreds who Give attitute. its very very hard to get a good job in oman with a good pay though. UAE is not bad but you need to assess if its worth it to move there. Qatar is very expensive. Kuwait don't know much about but heard its boring and dead Like bahrian. KSA is the best Laakin No way you would get a job there paying as much as what UAE or Qatar offers these days.
Thanks for the info. Dunno much about Oman bro, but I do know amongst the GCC Countries they are probably the poorest and have the least amount of development and employment prospects out of all the Gulf Countries. Not only that but I've also been reading about how they are much more aligned with Brittish Companies than American Companies (I'd be coming from America).

In terms of Nadaam, UAE I've heard is the best by far as You can find a lot of Western Companies with Western job benefits. The KSA also has a lot of oppritunies especially Damman, Riyadh, Jeddah but Saudis are known to be the most backward, unsophisticated Country of the Gulf which is gonna be a problem is You're coming from the West and used to certain standards. Qatar is also pretty nice, and Bahrain I know a lot about as My brother works there. Expensive as hell, but again a lot of development as well as job prospects.
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Enlightened~Sista wrote:Westldnshawty,

You are aware that Oman controlled big chunks of Eastern Africa? Those people you saw hail from there.
That I know..
Hence why I was a little :shock: when midrigeez said they are more pure arab than alot of other arabs *minus the Yemenis*..
I always thought they were mixed with alot of East African blood.. :?

I've been to many cities in Northern Oman and a good 70% of the people I came across were pretty dark.
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WestLdnShawty wrote:
Enlightened~Sista wrote:Westldnshawty,

You are aware that Oman controlled big chunks of Eastern Africa? Those people you saw hail from there.
That I know..
Hence why I was a little :shock: when midrigeez said they are more pure arab than alot of other arabs *minus the Yemenis*..
I always thought they were mixed with alot of East African blood.. :?

I've been to many cities in Northern Oman and a good 70% of the people I came across were pretty dark.
How are they more pure Arab though? Their proximity to the Yemenis?
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WestLdnShawty wrote:
That I know..
Hence why I was a little :shock: when midrigeez said they are more pure arab than alot of other arabs *minus the Yemenis*..
I always thought they were mixed with alot of East African blood.. :?

I've been to many cities in Northern Oman and a good 70% of the people I came across were pretty dark.
WestLdnShawty,

Midrigeez is right. The oldest and purest Arabs are to be found in Oman + Yemen. The overwhelming majority of Omanis are Ethnic Arabs, but it's also got minorities from its former colonies in Eastern Africa called Zanjibaris in addition to Balushis who are originally from Iran/Pakistan, Lawatis originally from Gujrat India etc..
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