Stoning is not part of Islam!

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Re: Stoning is not part of Islam!

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btw your 21st century appeasement and modification won't work. The punishment for stoning is clear and is accepted by every single major scholar in Islam. It is the rule of sharia in all four madhabs.
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Re: Stoning is not part of Islam!

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waryaa wrote:It is almost impossible to punish ppl for adultery because you need four witnesses. A very knowledgeable sheik told me that a well respected mayor (he named him) was found doing it by four men. They reported him and he was taken to the court. All four men agreed they saw the act. Then they were asked if they are sure that the woman they saw was not the mayor's wife. Three said she was not his wife while the fourth said he didn't see her face. He was let go and kept his job. I think it was Omar's (RA) time.

It is very clear that this punishment for adulterers is more like "public indecency" ordinance.
exactly

and also, if people confess to it like there was a couple of cases in the Propet's SAW time then the stoning can be done. The story of the woman who had committed it was turned away repeateadly but it was because she had to bear the child and then when the child was old enough, the punishment was handed out since she seeked to correct her wrong doing
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Re: Stoning is not part of Islam!

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FAH1223 wrote:Nigga, there's no proof in this case by numerous media outlets

http://articles.cnn.com/2012-07-11/opin ... sic-rights

http://ayannanahmias.com/2012/07/09/vid ... ing-woman/
Reuters news agency reported that the “Taliban members can be heard saying that the executioner is the woman’s husband, though Afghan officials offered conflicting accounts of what transpired in the village, Qol-i-Heer.

Colonel Masjidi said the woman’s real husband was a member of a village militia that had slain a local Taliban leader. The 20 year old woman, named Najiba was executed in revenge on trumped up charges of adultery, he said.”
this is just one in a line of many... is this Islam? Shooting a woman with no evidence presented? No court? No trial?

Get the hell outta here.
wow, just wow. there so much wrong with your post fah - admitting you've no proof but still bringing kuffar sources, hearsay, conflicting reports, stuff that makes no sense, etc - that you should be embarrassed to post it. are you willing to stand by your slander against the noble pashtun mujahideen before allah swt on account of that?

you're a proven liar and slanderer and your fast is broken. and for what? is that how much you hate noble people - by any standard - resisting kaffir invaders?
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Re: Stoning is not part of Islam!

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The prophet (pbuh) the four rightly khulfa, Abu Hanifa, Imam Malik, Imam Shafi , Imam Ahmed and all the known scholars of the past and present all say stoning is part of Islam. But Walahi the actions of our prophet is all we need.

The argument here is not about whether is likely to find someone committing the act or not but whether stoning is part of islam. If you keep on removing things from Islam which are part of it Walahi your no different than the Yahud. It is better for you to go out and drink alcohol in Ramadan Walahi than to mock basic beliefs of the deen.

The argument all kuffar and hypocrites love to use: "we didnt find it in the quran so is not part of Islam"... this is nothing more than a trick.
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Re: Stoning is not part of Islam!

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Stoning is from islam, but its almost impossible to catch someone doing the act. Also most people caught are either innocent or insane.
No nigga amongst us will admit to alshabaab/taliban/alqeada that he committed zina, and no dude would do it in a place where you might be seen by others.

The punishment is very rare if its done justly.

Laakiin saying stoning is not from islam, is true lie and something which can expel someone from islam because you are saying indirecly the prophet(peace be upon him & his family), sahaba(radiyallah anhum) and scholars were liars.
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Re: Stoning is not part of Islam!

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FAH1223 wrote:
Somali-Star wrote:guess fah couldn't prove his disgusting slanderous lie against the noble pashtuns resisting against kuffar invaders in this blessed month and ran with his tail between his legs.
:MJ: Nigga, there's no proof in this case by numerous media outlets

http://articles.cnn.com/2012-07-11/opin ... sic-rights

http://ayannanahmias.com/2012/07/09/vid ... ing-woman/
Reuters news agency reported that the “Taliban members can be heard saying that the executioner is the woman’s husband, though Afghan officials offered conflicting accounts of what transpired in the village, Qol-i-Heer.

Colonel Masjidi said the woman’s real husband was a member of a village militia that had slain a local Taliban leader. The 20 year old woman, named Najiba was executed in revenge on trumped up charges of adultery, he said.”
this is just one in a line of many... is this Islam? Shooting a woman with no evidence presented? No court? No trial?

Get the hell outta here.

:lol: you fell into the trap.
no amount of evidence will satisfy them, if you bring a video of the taliban judge talking about it, they will say its a trick, some conspiracy.
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Re: Stoning is not part of Islam!

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Somali-Star wrote:
gurey25 wrote:i dont feel like it, i am pretty lazy.

i will point you in the right direction and its your job to look.

so it depends on you, if you are sincere and really interested in this issue you will use my clue and search the internet, google it.
if you are not sincere and have a closed mind, it wont matter how many pages i bring infront of your face or videos, you already made up your mind.
you do realize, that under any law, that's pretty much admitting that your slander is baseless? and you do know the sharia punishment for slander, dont you?

anyways, i'll leave you alone, but do be careful with your fasting and be grateful that your slander will go unpunished this time.
This is not a court of law, my words were directed straight at you.
if you are serious about this you will do what i suggested.
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Re: Stoning is not part of Islam!

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I agree the title is not befitting, stoning is part of islam but it's for rare cases. :up:
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Re: Stoning is not part of Islam!

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Somali-Star wrote: wow, just wow. there so much wrong with your post fah - admitting you've no proof but still bringing kuffar sources, hearsay, conflicting reports, stuff that makes no sense, etc - that you should be embarrassed to post it. are you willing to stand by your slander against the noble pashtun mujahideen before allah swt on account of that?

you're a proven liar and slanderer and your fast is broken. and for what? is that how much you hate noble people - by any standard - resisting kaffir invaders?
you're the one who is dumb... they killed a woman by firing squad with no procedural process of any record in any sources in this incident ... gaalo or muslim

gurey, people like this guy are blind... how is it during first hundreds of years of hijirah there weren't that many stonings but today we have one just about every single day?
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Re: Stoning is not part of Islam!

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ridiculous thread from the title alone i can tell it looks like something dr yalaxow would orchestrate. im not reading this shit.
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Re: Stoning is not part of Islam!

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grandpakhalif wrote:I agree the title is not befitting, stoning is part of islam but it's for rare cases. :up:
MashAllah brother :up:
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Re: Stoning is not part of Islam!

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Barakallahu feek brother grand, u did quick flipflop move for the sake of Allah swt.
We all should flipflop, because then we know what is haqq and what is batil.

And the best flipflop is the one which leads to Jannah.
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Re: Stoning is not part of Islam!

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grandpakhalif wrote:I agree the title is not befitting, stoning is part of islam but it's for rare cases. :up:
its near impossible to prove :up:
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Re: Stoning is not part of Islam!

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HutuKing01 wrote:Barakallahu feek brother grand, u did quick flipflop move for the sake of Allah swt.
We all should flipflop, because then we know what is haqq and what is batil.

And the best flipflop is the one which leads to Jannah.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Stoning is not part of Islam!

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