The Federal State of the PM (Poll)

[Sagaashan]

Sagashan they are no threat to us even Puntland at its height when Abdulahi Yuusuf AUN became the president of Somalia they lost parts of Sool to Somaliland,
which was was taken from them and is still controlled until to this day by Somaliland. There is a reason why Faroole always says walalaha Somaliland. I will
leave you to figure it.

Our MJ brethren are so adapt at the political machination of things they are ahead of the pack in leaps and strides when it comes to this arena. While your feeble mind is framed by the static lenses of nomadic goat herder, the puntlanders have read The Art of Warfare by Sun Tzu several times in which the central piece is how to win wars without ever firing a shot. While your first instinct is war, our friends see it otherwise. The occupation of Sool rather being symbolic means nothing to our friends since Somaliland is part of Somalia, and not as you believe a foreign country

[greenday]

Khalid Ali so you are saying he should select a PM from Gedo/Cabuudwaaq because he will be submissive to a Hawiye president and will counter Ogaden/Kenya
influence in Jubbaland? i already know that. But that is Hawiye interests, not Somaliland interests, i am looking things through Somaliland glasses not
southern glasses.

Should you not say Somalia? saying south means you are the north . In Somalia the north would be nugaal iyo meelas not SL.

[Siciid85]

Greenday that is what i meant. Khalid Ali was saying that a PM should be selected from the deep south of Somalia,while i was saying the PM should be selected
from the north of former Italian Somalia (Puntland).

[Transformer]

Khalid Ali so you are saying he should select a PM from Gedo/Cabuudwaaq because he will be submissive to a Hawiye president and will counter Ogaden/Kenya
influence in Jubbaland? i already know that. But that is Hawiye interests, not Somaliland interests, i am looking things through Somaliland interests not
southern interests. What is needed is a PM that will sideline and work against anti Somaliland groups within former british Somaliland borders, not somebody
that will try to create problems in our borders.

Even the iidoor are aware of the role any Marehan PM will play, a Hawiye lackey

[Transformer]

Does Khatumo, Galmudug, Awdal state fulfill the 2 or more regions clause in Somalia's new constitution? Waa Maya.

As for Jubaland, you all heard the news coming out of Villa Somalia, the new president wants a regional admin. not a federal state admin. Kenya will eventually tow Hassan Sheikh's line.

Lower Juba will have a Absame governor and a Harti Mayor for Kismaayo. Puntland will have to choke the hoe in Villa Somalia if ever the outcome is not in that order.

As for Gedo and Middle Juba, perhaps a Rahanweyn and a Bantu governors. I just don't give a damn.

[Khalid Ali]

This is has nothing to do with being submissive to Hawiyes or not there is a Somali government and its kinda fragile at the moment it needs as much support as it can get right now. The Ogadens want to create a lose state similar to Puntland semi autonomous state not federal state. a state that is heavily influenced by Kenyans by the likes of Yusuf haaji farax macalin and Barre ilyaas top Absame politicians in Kenya. These Somalis from kenya are part of Kenya and are working for the interest of Kenya not Somalia. There is already a dispute between kenya and Somalia about the waters a state that operates as a buffer zone for Kenya will most likely always favor the Kenyan government over the Somali government. Why do you think the Ogadens want to hold the conference about a possible state in Kenya instead of Somalia. Siciid no Somali prime minister can or has the man power or the mandate by the IC to do anything against Somaliland. we have an understanding with the president of Somalia hassan sheikh mahamuud listen to his last speech. Siciid think about it Puntland isolated from xamar next door to you will hear more from faroole walaalahu nahay reer Somaliland Remember the rift between sharif and faroole when faarmaajo was elected prepare for a bigger cry from garowe.

[Murax]

Does Khatumo, Galmudug, Awdal state fulfill the 2 or more regions clause in Somalia's new constitution? Waa Maya.

As for Jubaland, you all heard the news coming out of Villa Somalia, the new president wants a regional admin. not a federal state admin. Kenya will eventually tow Hassan Sheikh's line.

Lower Juba will have a Absame governor and a Harti Mayor for Kismaayo. Puntland will have to choke the hoe in Villa Somalia if ever the outcome is not in that order.

As for Gedo and Middle Juba, perhaps a Rahanweyn and a Bantu governors. I just don't give a damn.

Jubbaland will NOT have a provincial admin, but Federal State admin. The groups that have not been brought into the fold to the jubbaland conference such as Gaaljecel, Sheikhaal will be brought in. MJ will be given a permenent resident card but no citizenship.

[Advo]

Jubbaland will NOT have a provincial admin, but Federal State admin. The groups that have not been brought into the fold to the jubbaland conference such as Gaaljecel, Sheikhaal will be brought in. MJ will be given a permenent resident card but no citizenship.

can beesha Puntland in Kismaayo run for office?

[Murax]

Jubbaland will NOT have a provincial admin, but Federal State admin. The groups that have not been brought into the fold to the jubbaland conference such as Gaaljecel, Sheikhaal will be brought in. MJ will be given a permenent resident card but no citizenship.

can beesha Puntland in Kismaayo run for office?

In 20 years there will be a position created, Ambassador for Puntland and Yes they should be eligible!

If we're talking Presidency, I think You been twistin that la la lala

[Barwaaqoiyobashbash]

heeraday gon be the PM.

[original dervish]

khalid explains the iidoor interest beautifully.
The see Marehan as the joker in the pack, able to be manipulated into the Hawiye/irrir camp.

Unfortunately for the Jubbaland spoilers, Marehan are very much on board the Jubbaland train.
There will be no repeat of the clan wars of the 1990s-2000s, peace and prosperity beckons for all the people of Jubbaland.

We know there has been a momentous shift in Somali geopolitics when you got skinny`s from hargeisa-xamar, shitting their pants at the prospect of yet another darod dominated federal state of Somalia

[Transformer]

Jubbaland will NOT have a provincial admin, but Federal State admin. The groups that have not been brought into the fold to the jubbaland conference such as Gaaljecel, Sheikhaal will be brought in. MJ will be given a permenent resident card but no citizenship.

Gedo yes, in KIsta though once peace returns and the MJ return home from Kenyan's refugee camps, the diaspora, and from Punltand their ancestral home, I'm afraid you'll be shown just how laangab your lot are.

[Siciid85]

This is has nothing to do with being submissive to Hawiyes or not there is a Somali government and its kinda fragile at the moment it needs as much support as it can get right now. The Ogadens want to create a lose state similar to Puntland semi autonomous state not federal state. a state that is heavily influenced by Kenyans by the likes of Yusuf haaji farax macalin and Barre ilyaas top Absame politicians in Kenya. These Somalis from kenya are part of Kenya and are working for the interest of Kenya not Somalia. There is already a dispute between kenya and Somalia about the waters a state that operates as a buffer zone for Kenya will most likely always favor the Kenyan government over the Somali government. Why do you think the Ogadens want to hold the conference about a possible state in Kenya instead of Somalia. Siciid no Somali prime minister can or has the man power or the mandate by the IC to do anything against Somaliland. we have an understanding with the president of Somalia hassan sheikh mahamuud listen to his last speech. Siciid think about it Puntland isolated from xamar next door to you will hear more from faroole walaalahu nahay reer Somaliland Remember the rift between sharif and faroole when faarmaajo was elected prepare for a bigger cry from garowe.

Dude i don't blame the Ogadens as the other groups have used Ethiopians, Al shabab and other group alliance in the past. If they want to create a state in the
deep south which is their land with the other groups, then be it. However i don't agree with Kenya trying to annex Somalia waters in 2012, that is where
i draw the line and beesha Ogaden should refuse it aswell for the sake of Somali integrity. This is a permanent government for Somalia, not a transitional
like before. Never underestimate your enemies, we should sideline all those we demean to be very anti Somaliland, i am aware Hassan Sheikh Mohamud
seems calm and impartial on the issue and recognizes the problem started in the 1960 union.

[Murax]

Jubbaland will NOT have a provincial admin, but Federal State admin. The groups that have not been brought into the fold to the jubbaland conference such as Gaaljecel, Sheikhaal will be brought in. MJ will be given a permenent resident card but no citizenship.

Gedo yes, in KIsta though once peace returns and the Harti return home from Kenyan's refugee camps, the diaspora, and from Punltand their ancestral home, I'm afraid you'll be shown just how laangab your lot are.

Bro this isn't 1995 anymore. Morgan is nowhere to be found, He's probably chewing qaad at some marafiish or something. Kismaayo is actually peaceful right now as I type this and the people roaming the streets, patrolling it, carrying weapons and the Law is Me. Your people INshallah should come out of the refugee camps and receive their Permenant Resident cards signed by Jubbaland Immigration and Naturalization Services Chairman Mudane Advo Al Sandeigoi.

[Transformer]

Morgan I'm afraid never played hardball with your lot and I blame the "siiil" you lot threw his way. But lot's not dwell in the past, we have a new general at the scene this time around, Max'ed Warsame Darwiish. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." It's business in the passenger seat sxb, "siiil" I'm afraid this time around will have to take a back seat