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TeAmo wrote:

Hiloowle wrote:whatever hoe

Your sister is a hoe

habartaa

TAATIKO wrote:

Hiloowle wrote:

TeAmo wrote:Mods delete this thread please. This hilowe girl which is apparently a guy is disrespectful and I am offended by his posts.

Gtfo

hiloowle calm down this is her thread make your own please

and who da fuq are you nicca you blind or something this is watcmans thread

Hiloowle wrote:

TAATIKO wrote:

TeAmo wrote:Mods delete this thread please. This hilowe girl which is apparently a guy is disrespectful and I am offended by his posts.

Gtfo

hiloowle calm down this is her thread make your own please

and who da fuq are you nicca you blind or something this is watcmans thread

you are not watch man. bilaa adab

nicca get a life

Hiloowle wrote:

TeAmo wrote:

Hiloowle wrote:whatever hoe

Your sister is a hoe

habartaa

I don't play cussing matches with sissy boys

Hiloowle wrote:well i support that Hawaadle are good people

hawaadle have two doors to xamar, we have done a big dhabarjabis to the ciidanka of carbiska in 91. Our army who controlled marka and baraawe ports were stright from hiraan not the ones in xamar. We controlled walaween and afgooye road.
When it comes to reer banaadir,I'm only friend with the abgaal king who got a far sighted eye. We can be friend if you ignore the things I do.

TeAmo wrote:Mods delete this thread please. This hilowe girl which is apparently a guy is disrespectful.
And keep your dry mouths out of xamaris don't bring them into your stupid discussions on snet

Hilowe I reported you and this thread Insha'Allah it gets deleted

Pick one reer xamar or hawiye? You cant defend both of them in thread.

And reer xamar is not a clan, your grandad has arrived in the 70s what has he got to do with xamar? These are called bilaajo carabs and I know one of them who become a yemen foreign minister in early 2000s.
The section is related to me are in xamarwene.

sahal80 wrote:

TeAmo wrote:Mods delete this thread please. This hilowe girl which is apparently a guy is disrespectful.
And keep your dry mouths out of xamaris don't bring them into your stupid discussions on snet
Hilowe I reported you and this thread Insha'Allah it gets deleted

Pick one reer xamar or hawiye? You cant defend both of them in thread.

And reer xamar is not a clan, your grandad has arrived in the 70s what has he got to do with xamar? These are called bilaajo carabs and I know one of them who become a yemen foreign minister in early 2000s.
The section is related to me are in xamarwene.

Nigger please you are not a xamari you are a hutu. My grandad (AUN) might not be Somali but my granmother is Somali Shanshi/Abokarow from her father side and Asharaf from her mother side and they are banadiri people and my mother was born and raised in xamar so was her mother and her gran and great gran and great gran and great gran, I could go on.... So I don't know what your talking about and if I want to defend both I can

TeAmo wrote:

sahal80 wrote:

TeAmo wrote:Mods delete this thread please. This hilowe girl which is apparently a guy is disrespectful.
And keep your dry mouths out of xamaris don't bring them into your stupid discussions on snet
Hilowe I reported you and this thread Insha'Allah it gets deleted

Pick one reer xamar or hawiye? You cant defend both of them in thread.

And reer xamar is not a clan, your grandad has arrived in the 70s what has he got to do with xamar? These are called bilaajo carabs and I know one of them who become a yemen foreign minister in early 2000s.
The section is related to me are in xamarwene.

Nigger please you are not a xamari you are a hutu. My grandad (AUN) might not be Somali but my granmother is Somali Shanshi/Abokarow from her father side and Asharaf from her mother side and they are banadiri people and my mother was born and raised in xamar so was her mother and her gran and great gran and great gran and great gran, I could go on.... So I don't know what your talking about and if I want to defend both I can

where did I claimed the clanless xamari? I have a clan!! Banaadiri is not a clan its an identity therefore some of my clan have joined that I dentity and they are still related to me. My clan ancestor is buried in marka. Not just the banaadirs have arab connections there are the ones who mixed with the natives. All I do to say is that I'm a bit lighter than the somali casaan and have a caucasian features. I believe I'm somali but have a non african roots. Still nothing wrong with it.
I'm traying to make a thread about this arabic identity. There is a sudanese thinker called nasrine malik I would like to post her articles about this.

I just listed you the clans my mother belongs to from her mothers side and you still call them clanless. Just because you do not know about their clans doesn't mean they are clanless, ignorance is not cool, learn them or don't mention them

Somalis are black not Arabs I am a negro, you are a negro, we are all negros.

TeAmo wrote:I just listed you the clans my mother belongs to from her mothers side and you still call them clanless. Just because you do not know about their clans doesn't mean they are clanless, ignorance is not cool, learn them or don't mention them

Somalis are black not Arabs I am a negro, you are a negro, we are all negros.

Your free to call yourself whatever you like but don't call me


A negro

Listen carefully this time. Banadiri and reer xamar are not a clan identity. Its the people of banaadir from kismaayo to warshiikh. . Bajuni and barawanis don't have the some continental roots with xamarwene people even shingani has a persian roots and nothing to do with the rest of xamar. Bilaajo carab have yemani citizenship and can't speak af somali... Where is the banaadiri clan then???!
Your mother has her ownlittle clan within this " banaadiri" the asharaf had lived in xamarwane with moorshe and dhabarwene who are associated with a somali clans and the USC did hurt them. They welcomed asharaf in xamarwene and gave them the role of making peace between them. This is the role of asharaaf in all somalia.
All you can claim is your mums family not a focking far east asian like the bajunis or the somali associated ones who are listed in my clans geneology.

I was just talking about our history in xamar and our modern officials in banadir not to talk about the reer xamars but just to mention some of them are indeed hawaadle and that is our history in xamar. How that make me reer xamar? The study in my first post said that while some reer xamar cannot rely on a patron clans some have patron clan within hawadle.
This is in dutch. Tussen means between as used translation.
"In Centraal-Somalië bestaat een affiliatie tussen de Reer Hamar/Dabarweyn en de Hawiye/Hawadle"
Their genealogy in hawadle cabdi yusuf
Cabdi Yusuf
Dhabarweyne
Reer Idle
Matan

sahal, i heard max'ed raajis was xawaadle reer dhabaweene tolow maxaa ka jira

abakar20 wrote:sahal, i heard max'ed raajis was xawaadle reer dhabaweene tolow maxaa ka jira

Himself has said he is a hawaadle but because he was the historical leader of SANU he was avoiding a clash with his banaadiri base because they have different origins and not a clan. Gen aideed has divided the people into two groups the RAN iyo. BIIg. He said only RAN are nitives but cali mahdi was different he said to raajis I made umar xaashi the mayor of banaadir so hawadle is representing you and you can join us so he joined ali mahdi wing who considers them to be somalis.
Te amo has the same mentality of qamar hashim sharif, she thinks banaadiri is a clan. I will post for you her article againist a mudulood historian over mahamed raajis being a hawadle.

"Marka waan niqiinay dadkay ku xirnaayeen dadkaygi marka lama maqlin Banaadir iyo Muddullod isu xirnaa Avv.Raajis ma'uusan eheen ninka weligii hogaamin jiray reer Banaadir waxaa ka horeeyey siyaasiyiin badan oo hogaamin jireen dadkeygi Avv.Raajis weligii isbaheysi lama gelin intuu xildhibaan uu noo ahaa tan maanta socda ayadaaba ah dowlad liidata oo sanad u haray waxaad ogaataa in Mudane.M.Raajis uusan eheen Xawaale sidaad doontay in aad ku tilmaantid afbuuxo haduuw noogu sheego inuu yahay Xawaadle ogow in aan dheel dheel u dayneynin reer Banaadir waayo waa reerkeygi waayo waa hogaamiyaheyna waayo waa odeygeyna sidaan idiinku siineynin Mudane.Raajis idiima siineyno Sheekhaal gendershe iyo sheekhaal jasiira hawiyo wuxuu u galo ayaaba yar doona ama diida idiima deyneyno dadkeyni magaceyna ayaad doontaan in la masaxo heeysteyna ayaad qaadateen oo hees banaadiri ah dadkeyga ayaad doontaan hawiye ad ka dhigtaan hada waxaad u dhigateen hogaamiyaha reer Banaadir.
Maxaa inoo haray in aan basaas u eheen talyani iyo ingiriis taariikh ayaad aqoon u leheen midda ugu horeysa wax la'idiinka basaaso ayaaba yar midda"

sahal80 wrote:

Hiloowle wrote:well i support that Hawaadle are good people

hawaadle have two doors to xamar, we have done a big dhabarjabis to the ciidanka of carbiska in 91. Our army who controlled marka and baraawe ports were stright from hiraan not the ones in xamar. We controlled walaween and afgooye road.
When it comes to reer banaadir,I'm only friend with the abgaal king who got a far sighted eye. We can be friend if you ignore the things I do.

.. lool what do you mean?