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Re: Divorce - Why are guys complaining?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:44 pm
by FAH1223
imagine paying 38% of your gross income to someone.............20-50% percent of your gross income to the government...............and living off whats left..........

Re: Divorce - Why are guys complaining?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:50 pm
by Hyperactive
FAH1223 wrote:imagine paying 38% of your gross income to someone.............20-50% percent of your gross income to the government...............and living off whats left..........
well, i guess is women's world , let them enjoy. i guess guys did unjust for so long.

fah, if you do not agree do not marry in the west or make the contract clean , what each intitled after divorce.

Re: Divorce - Why are guys complaining?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:51 pm
by BlackVelvet
hyperactive wrote:now i guess in the west is opposite, guy who kicked out the house.
:lol:


That middle ground is exactly what I was talking about and advocating for. Help the person get back on their feet then call it a day.

But I am not sure how much of a difference 3 months would make in terms of getting a steady income.


Hyper, who gets the kids?

Re: Divorce - Why are guys complaining?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:58 pm
by Hyperactive
ooh jasmine that is another headache in islamic family court! they keep changing it cause of what is good for kids.

but in general rolling if kid is under 7 wife can take care of it and guys pay the expenses what he could, rich pay more and poor what judge sees is reasonable. depends each society what is reasonable. no set amount or percentage.

some say,after age of 7 kid has option who they want to live in front of judge. the strange, girl preferable to live with father in many scholars opinion than a boy.

if she remarried, she looses the custody. father is prime care giver, and they can visit their mom. unless, he gave up his rights and say, she can have kids but im not paying child support. which he can do it.

Re: Divorce - Why are guys complaining?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:01 pm
by BlackVelvet
That seems reasonable assuming of course there is still visitation. Damn divorce sucks.

Re: Divorce - Why are guys complaining?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:04 pm
by CilmiDoone
FAH1223 wrote:
Jasmine6 wrote:Fah, the story you posted is precisely the reason why you should think about divorce before you get married, before you decide you hate each other. When you're both loved up it's easier to be fair to each other. :up:
Get married brehs, Women plan for divorce and strip down a nigga before it even happens.
To every action theres a reaction, aint nothing a good lawyer/prenup cant anticipate. Brehs be working to damn hard for some saqajaan Xaliimo to be asset strippin.

Re: Divorce - Why are guys complaining?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:07 pm
by Hyperactive
in my experiences i haven't seen much problems about visitations. if they live with mother, they go school holidays live with father and weekends/ holidays etc. but most guys give up their rights to just get away to not paying child support.

i dont think many women have problem with custody. many guys dont want to be prime care giver, i mean where i live. unless ino 3anadayo his ex.

Re: Divorce - Why are guys complaining?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:08 pm
by Lillaahiya
Jasmine6 wrote:The assumption is that a spouse has been out of employment and provided support at home hence why they would be awarded alimony and yes it works both ways. If the person was gold digging and had no ambition like I said then it's different. Lifetime alimony is also unfair (unless there is absolutely no hope of the other person ever being able to get back into work i.e. borderline retirement).
But wouldn't this 'alimony' be covered by the meher though? Which you would pay after the divorce if you didn't already? That isn't alimony.
And to answer your question, yes. Assuming he didn't do anything unforgivable
If you're going to get a divorce :lol: Anything he did would be classified as unforgivable. Ninka waad nacday ee lacag maad siistayn.

Hyper: During the 3 months after the divorce, a woman can't get remarried, which is why I'm assuming her ex has to financially support her. After that, she goes back to her family who are responsible for her again. Am I correct?

Re: Divorce - Why are guys complaining?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:11 pm
by BlackVelvet
What Hyper said is more like alimony (a temporary one), mehr is part of the marriage contract, it's Somalis who treat it as part of the divorce package.

Lillaahiya wrote:If you're going to get a divorce Anything he did would be classified as unforgivable.
:lol: not always and to different extents. Sometimes it's because you grew apart, want different things, can't get along with each other's families etc. If he abused you or cheated on you then that would be unforgivable but not all divorces are because of things like this.

Re: Divorce - Why are guys complaining?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:12 pm
by Hyperactive
you are right sister lillahiya. and the reason she has to live the same house is, they may get back together. ya3ni intey darada mar mareyso, ino dam'o o ku noqdo . loooooool.

and he doesnt have to say "raja'atok" just by sleeping with her with her agreement.... wa okay :)

Re: Divorce - Why are guys complaining?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:14 pm
by Lillaahiya
^ what's raja'tok?

Jas: There's 2 parts to a meher. One part is to cover a divorce or death if I'm not mistaken.

Re: Divorce - Why are guys complaining?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:17 pm
by BlackVelvet
Lilaahiya I didn't know that


And like I always said all a sister needs to do if she doesn't want to get divorced is seduce husband in those 3 months. Gotta love it :lol:

Re: Divorce - Why are guys complaining?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:19 pm
by Hyperactive
means, wan ko so Eliyey, back to you .

lailayiha, is culturally, the mahar to be 2 part, first and last. or upfront or mo'akhar.

some woman want compensation after divorce and they write in marriage contract. that is nothing to do with marriage validation.

you can name number and give all in once and get over with it. otherwise deyn ombey ninka ko tahay. if he dies, before they split inherit, she has to given her mahr.

Re: Divorce - Why are guys complaining?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:20 pm
by FAH1223
Jasmine6 wrote:
:lol: not always and to different extents. Sometimes it's because you grew apart, want different things, can't get along with each other's families etc. If he abused you or cheated on you then that would be unforgivable but not all divorces are because of things like this.
and take everything away

get married brehs

Re: Divorce - Why are guys complaining?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:22 pm
by BlackVelvet
FAH1223 wrote:
Jasmine6 wrote:
:lol: not always and to different extents. Sometimes it's because you grew apart, want different things, can't get along with each other's families etc. If he abused you or cheated on you then that would be unforgivable but not all divorces are because of things like this.
and take everything away

get married brehs
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