Hawiyes true name is Ahmed, he was indeed a personhydrogen wrote:hawiye and abgal?Casanova25 wrote: hawiye is buried in Harar and Abgaal cismaan is buried some where close to berbera or hargeisa.
hawiye is not a person lool
Sacad & Wagardhac fight in Galinsoor (Mudug) continues
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never da gov shld stay da fuck away from ppl n der guns. who da fuck r dey?SomaliDefenceCouncil wrote:The government needs to start disarming the population and arrest anyone who's seen to be making trouble between these brotherly clans.
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Ismail87 wrote:SomaliDefenceCouncil wrote:FarhanYare mark my words Puntland will get what it deserves.

The cuqdaad of this nigga is just

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The amount of lies in this thread is ridiculous. Ancestral homeland iyo sheeko aan hore loo maqal. Ka yidhi Seylac to Bari must be smoking crack


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Casanova25 wrote: hawiye is buried in Harar and Abgaal cismaan is buried some where close to berbera or hargeisa.
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All of Hawiye subclan ancestors are buried in Ethiopia or present day Somaliland
Hawiye migration to the south was 500-800 years ago. Some are still in the north like Karanle and Gugundhabe in Ethiopia and Maxamed Gorgaarte in Somaliland
Hawiye migration to the south was 500-800 years ago. Some are still in the north like Karanle and Gugundhabe in Ethiopia and Maxamed Gorgaarte in Somaliland
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Samaale have no blood ties with Isaaq WHO is born 1300 Century.
North somalia areas like Berbera, awdal, and djiibouti were the lands of Samaale according to early historians and also somali elders. there is no debate in this amongst the somali elders. well known fact
and today you have Issa and Gudabirsi living on those lands. they have never left that area and they were also born there. but there forefathers came from upper egypt because its there where E-V12 was born.
Abgaal Cismaan is buried 60km South of Berbera in a city called abdaal.

Right now am actully reading a book written by a Chinese sailor WHO travelled on the red sea and have been in Berbera somewhere between 850 Century, and i believe that is the oldest record on somali soil or one of the oldest record.
I'm also reading about a arab Explorer named Yaquut al Hamawi WHO have been in Mogadishu 1200 Century.
I can feed you with more informations but i'm afraid you Guys are not ready for it just yet.
North somalia areas like Berbera, awdal, and djiibouti were the lands of Samaale according to early historians and also somali elders. there is no debate in this amongst the somali elders. well known fact
and today you have Issa and Gudabirsi living on those lands. they have never left that area and they were also born there. but there forefathers came from upper egypt because its there where E-V12 was born.
Abgaal Cismaan is buried 60km South of Berbera in a city called abdaal.

Right now am actully reading a book written by a Chinese sailor WHO travelled on the red sea and have been in Berbera somewhere between 850 Century, and i believe that is the oldest record on somali soil or one of the oldest record.
I'm also reading about a arab Explorer named Yaquut al Hamawi WHO have been in Mogadishu 1200 Century.
I can feed you with more informations but i'm afraid you Guys are not ready for it just yet.
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What clan is Maxamed Gorgaarte? If those clans you've mentioned lived that area 500-800 years ago, their names would've been mentioned in books like Futux al Xabasha or manuscripts that were written down in Arabic at that time.Titanium wrote:All of Hawiye subclan ancestors are buried in Ethiopia or present day Somaliland
Hawiye migration to the south was 500-800 years ago. Some are still in the north like Karanle and Gugundhabe in Ethiopia and Maxamed Gorgaarte in Somaliland
I would say ancient migrations probably took place 1000-2000 years ago.
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No they left the area because it became dryland. before awdal empire or futah al-xabashi.Kabriid wrote:What clan is Maxamed Gorgaarte? If those clans you've mentioned lived that area 500-800 years ago, their names would've been mentioned in books like Futux al Xabasha or manuscripts that were written down in Arabic at that time.Titanium wrote:All of Hawiye subclan ancestors are buried in Ethiopia or present day Somaliland
Hawiye migration to the south was 500-800 years ago. Some are still in the north like Karanle and Gugundhabe in Ethiopia and Maxamed Gorgaarte in Somaliland
I would say ancient migrations probably took place 1000-2000 years ago.
they left that area almost 1000 years ago. its also well recorded why they left, and WHO was leading them. the man named after the city bal'ad.
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Maxamed Gorgaarte is the name of the Madhibaan clan with Hawiye lineage. But not all of the 'midgans' come from the same lineage. Madhibaan itself is a confederation so only some of them are Maxamed Gorgaarte. The rest are the 'midgans' who got out casted from other clans who agreed to unify at the end
I heard 500-800 years but I agree. It has to be later than that
I heard 500-800 years but I agree. It has to be later than that
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Lool why are you using the picture that I took when I was in Somaliland this summer? Fuckin stalkerCasanova25 wrote:Samaale have no blood ties with Isaaq WHO is born 1300 Century.
North somalia areas like Berbera, awdal, and djiibouti were the lands of Samaale according to early historians and also somali elders. there is no debate in this amongst the somali elders. well known fact
and today you have Issa and Gudabirsi living on those lands. they have never left that area and they were also born there. but there forefathers came from upper egypt because its there where E-V12 was born.
Abgaal Cismaan is buried 60km South of Berbera in a city called abdaal.
Right now am actully reading a book written by a Chinese sailor WHO travelled on the red sea and have been in Berbera somewhere between 850 Century, and i believe that is the oldest record on somali soil or one of the oldest record.
I'm also reading about a arab Explorer named Yaquut al Hamawi WHO have been in Mogadishu 1200 Century.
I can feed you with more informations but i'm afraid you Guys are not ready for it just yet.

You need to come with verifiable facts and halkaad ka keentey waxan aad soo qortay hada?
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Somali elders and early historians.. and yes i used your Picture.
the grave is from somali elders.
the grave is from somali elders.
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Casanova25 wrote:
No they left the area because it became dryland. before awdal empire or futah al-xabashi.
they left that area almost 1000 years ago. its also well recorded why they left, and WHO was leading them. the man named after the city bal'ad.

Somaliland was much greener just hundred years ago and less than 60 years you had lions, elephants, giraffes etc. in Somaliland. The native flora was completely different than what it is today, unfortunately.
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according to ancient historians it became to hard for cow and sheep owners in that area and thats why they started using Camels for about 1000 years ago or Little bit more.Kabriid wrote:Casanova25 wrote:
No they left the area because it became dryland. before awdal empire or futah al-xabashi.
they left that area almost 1000 years ago. its also well recorded why they left, and WHO was leading them. the man named after the city bal'ad.![]()
Somaliland was much greener just hundred years ago and less than 60 years you had lions, elephants, giraffes etc. in Somaliland. The native flora was completely different than what it is today, unfortunately.
that land became dryland for a long time ago. speciale bari
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