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Twisted_Logic wrote:At the end of the day, politics boils down to clan & it's true some clan are more qualified to adapt to changing circumstances than others. As far as Baadiyow, the guy is no body & will never amount to anything. Him & Farmaajo are fake candidates propped by the media. They can last a day in politics

AbdiJohnson wrote:Geo hg has more money then abgaals,ayr alone has almost da same money as abgaals

HusseinHassan wrote:

Twisted_Logic wrote:At the end of the day, politics boils down to clan & it's true some clan are more qualified to adapt to changing circumstances than others. As far as Baadiyow, the guy is no body & will never amount to anything. Him & Farmaajo are fake candidates propped by the media. They can last a day in politics

that's what voltage and his brother perfect order are trying very hard to avoid . they want to pretend that they're completely oblivious to how somali politics work which basically at the end of the day it comes down to clan dynamics. for these two brothers to ever face hawiye they have to first be the top dogs in a inter-darod rivalry. sade being equivalent to kablalah and kablalah being 70% of darod automatically puts the two brothers are a great disadvantage to use their clan-card to speak with pride in today's political stage. with that being said, i want them to know that i think sade, despite being smaller than kablalah has more heart than their counterparts the kablalah and they tend to have a stronger determination. so in a way number doesnt matter.

AbdiJohnson wrote:Black who r da 2 pms? 9month summer job is not a PM

AbdiJohnson wrote:Black who r da 2 pms? 9month summer job is not a PM

Perfect_Order wrote:Geoseven, you are misconstruing the facts. Yes there was a lot of successful Hawiye candidates, but almost all of them were locally based except Baadiyow, and all of them were part of some kind of islamic party like islaah or dam jadiid a branch of islaah. While Darood or other non Hawiye candidates were almost all diaspora and had no local party affiliation. Islaah is also heavily connected with Qatar which we know is a proponent of muslim brotherhood (islaah being a branch of MB) wings all over the muslim world including egypt, syria, Somalia, etc. They easily gave Egypt a few billion dollars to help Morsi, the Somali campaign was chump change for them.

So the real winners were not Hawiye, even though you can paint it that way, but it was Islamic groups privately funded by outsider donors (qatar). Also, yes Hawiye have the most members in these groups, but every qabil is in them since it is not solely qabil but idealogically based, out of Darood Marexaan are the biggest members of Isaah, while MJ's are led by secularists. Islamic groups are most prevalent in the south because of the long instability.