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Re: WHY DO GARXAJIS CLAIM HARGEYSA AS THEIR OWN?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:10 pm
by BoholKing
It is but it is settled mainly by a sub clan of Musa Carre ( Jibril Adan), obviously it is not going to be a very large town since it is settled by
a sub sub sub sub sub clan. That is about to change though as the Musa Ismaaciil and Sacad Yoonis (both eastern HY groups) and other HY
are building houses and settling there to make it a city.

Re: WHY DO GARXAJIS CLAIM HARGEYSA AS THEIR OWN?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:13 pm
by Thuganomics
Nobody owned Hargeisa as we know it now
Ciidagale lived in masalaha.SM (Rer Samatar) lived in Haraf and Arab lived near the dooh
So if anything Arab could claim original ownership because of proximity.The present settlement came about when there was some trouble between the local qabiils and two Sheiks one SM Haji Farah and one Ciidagale sheikh Abdillahi Geele called another well known sheik named Sheikh Madar to help them with mediating peace between the tribes.
They set up an ardaa in what is now called Jameecada weeyn

So began the actual settlements that is now known as Hargeisa,Before that that location was just a ceel where the Ciidagale and Arab watered their camels.SM Rer Samatar used Ceelka Haraf

Re: WHY DO GARXAJIS CLAIM HARGEYSA AS THEIR OWN?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:18 pm
by HusseinHassan
BoholKing wrote:It is but it is settled mainly by a sub clan of Musa Carre ( Jibril Adan), obviously it is not going to be a very large town since it is settled by
a sub sub sub sub sub clan. That is about to change though as the Musa Ismaaciil and Sacad Yoonis (both eastern HY groups) and other HY
are building houses and settling there to make it a city.
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boholking, i like you man. you're a funny guy and that's why i'll give you a break and not embarrass you. :lol:

Re: WHY DO GARXAJIS CLAIM HARGEYSA AS THEIR OWN?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:20 pm
by srsbsns
Thug, which clan is responsible then for making Hargeisa what it is today. Some clan had to dominate in terms of land ownership and social influence.

Re: WHY DO GARXAJIS CLAIM HARGEYSA AS THEIR OWN?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:23 pm
by Thuganomics
srsbsns wrote:Thug, which clan is responsible then for making Hargeisa what it is today. Some clan had to dominate in terms of land ownership and social influence.
Isaq:End of :stylin:

Re: WHY DO GARXAJIS CLAIM HARGEYSA AS THEIR OWN?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:24 pm
by BoholKing
Dude I am all good, I got Oodweyne, Ceerigaabo, Burco, New Hargeisa Image . Those cities are larger than
Buhoodle and Las Anod, marka wax iga maqan ma jirto. Maydh will grow in its own time and compete with the big boys.

Re: WHY DO GARXAJIS CLAIM HARGEYSA AS THEIR OWN?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:29 pm
by skywalker25
srsbsns wrote:Thug, which clan is responsible then for making Hargeisa what it is today. Some clan had to dominate in terms of land ownership and social influence.
Im not biased so I will give you the answer since thug is too much of a gentleman to say it. Sacad Muse sxb. You need a certain level of reer magalnimo and vision to advance. Not that the other tribes are not but Cidagale were too busy in the deep hawd exchanging or revenging a sultan with the Ogadens. They had no time for building nor had the know how.. Common sense.

Re: WHY DO GARXAJIS CLAIM HARGEYSA AS THEIR OWN?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:31 pm
by Thuganomics
skywalker25 wrote:
srsbsns wrote:Thug, which clan is responsible then for making Hargeisa what it is today. Some clan had to dominate in terms of land ownership and social influence.
Im not biased so I will give you the answer since thug is too much of a gentleman to say it. Sacad Muse sxb. You need a certain level of reer magalnimo and vision to advance. Not that the other tribes are not but Cidagale were too busy in the deep hawd exchanging or revenging a sultan with the Ogadens. They had no time for building nor had the know how.. Common sense.
Sxb waa ku sidee dee:“Whatever isn't visionary is divisionary.”

Re: WHY DO GARXAJIS CLAIM HARGEYSA AS THEIR OWN?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:31 pm
by Meyle
Togga Herer was always controlled by Cidagalle and later on, in late 1700 - early 1800's, in the settlements around that area you had Arap and the Isxaaq living there as well. This is way before Sheikh Madar. When the colonialist came the area was under the control of Garxajis/Arap.

Hargeysa as we know it today was created by all those clans living there; Cidagalle, Arap, SM, & Isxaaq.


Nonetheless the city is Isaaq.

Re: WHY DO GARXAJIS CLAIM HARGEYSA AS THEIR OWN?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:38 pm
by srsbsns
Thug is indeed a gentleman, so I'll put him at rest and just say Isaaq wa mid. Somaliland belongs to all Isaaq regardless and the Gadabursi and Harti backstabbers will have to work twice as hard to prove their worth.

Re: WHY DO GARXAJIS CLAIM HARGEYSA AS THEIR OWN?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:02 pm
by STARKAST
BoholKing wrote:Starkast And today it is mine :eat: there is no single Harti soul there. Although they are allowed to visit from time to time to remember where they use
to live in.
Never say never we coming for you but more realistic is the inter lands towns like Ceri.

:lol: kidwalker what can i say i own you.

Hargeysa is a Habar Awal city :up: accept it

Re: WHY DO GARXAJIS CLAIM HARGEYSA AS THEIR OWN?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:05 pm
by KingWaslawi
Backward baynu u soconaa, adduunka kalena Mars waa la degi karayaa iyo hebel baa u guuray ayay ka sheekaysanayaan.
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Re: WHY DO GARXAJIS CLAIM HARGEYSA AS THEIR OWN?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:47 pm
by BoholKing
Starkast You need to move on, sameway Greeks who totally lost Constantinople (now Istanbul) to the Turkish moved on. Both Ceerigaabo and Maydh
are eastern HY property and will remain so in the forseeable future.

Re: WHY DO GARXAJIS CLAIM HARGEYSA AS THEIR OWN?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:53 pm
by STARKAST
'foreseeable future', and today no Greeks live in Istanbul however a sizable majority of non Isaaq live in Ceri :lol: Big Mistake on your part. Coming back with vengeance.

Myself personally i will build there and invite others so you never know, never say never. Also PL has candidates there too, might even by a shared city in the foreseeable future also its a former degaan, remember that sxb :up:

Darood don't forget.

Re: WHY DO GARXAJIS CLAIM HARGEYSA AS THEIR OWN?

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:03 pm
by BoholKing
The Constantinople example is for Maydh, since both places are pretty ancient and their original inhabitants were totally uprooted with no traces to be
found today, Maydh was being mentioned in 16th century in futuh al-habasha the conquest of Abyssinia so it is very old place. However you are right
Ceerigaabo still has few traces of Harti but many moved out already as they don't like living under Sland rule since 1991.