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Mr. Marx
I think the term “educated” is problematic in terms of Somali society. Having a degree/ acquired level of graduate studies doesn’t eliminate one from tribalism. That is to say, those educated diaspora aren’t free of tribalism. In fact they are more perilous as they are able to deploy this agent in diverse possibilities as to engulf it in every fabric of society. Have you yet to sit down with the average political scientist in diaspora and dissect his line of thinking? They are full of notions of utilizing their education to further their clan’s progress consciously or unconsciously…..i.e. tribal politicians. That can go for almost all Somalis since we are natural politicians. The question then becomes what difference exists between the two (those you want to lead the revolution and the others)? If the “uneducated diaspora” are making easy money through conflict entrepreneurship as you put it, make no mistake those educated ones are doing the same by lobbying their clansmen for their social and political gains.
I emphasized on locals spearheading your call for revolution because the issues facing Somalia affect them first hand. It is in their interest to call for ideas that will bring about change in their lives. I think it is selfish and bound to bring resentment to exclude them.
Lastly, read the book Nervous Conditions by Tsitsi Dangarembga, you will realize the plight of our people today and years to come, given the current situation. I hope I’m wrong.
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SummerRain wrote:Mr. Marx
I think the term “educated” is problematic in terms of Somali society. Having a degree/ acquired level of graduate studies doesn’t eliminate one from tribalism. That is to say, those educated diaspora aren’t free of tribalism. In fact they are more perilous as they are able to deploy this agent in diverse possibilities as to engulf it in every fabric of society. Have you yet to sit down with the average political scientist in diaspora and dissect his line of thinking? They are full of notions of utilizing their education to further their clan’s progress consciously or unconsciously…..i.e. tribal politicians. That can go for almost all Somalis since we are natural politicians. The question then becomes what difference exists between the two (those you want to lead the revolution and the others)? If the “uneducated diaspora” are making easy money through conflict entrepreneurship as you put it, make no mistake those educated ones are doing the same by lobbying their clansmen for their social and political gains.
I emphasized on locals spearheading your call for revolution because the issues facing Somalia affect them first hand. It is in their interest to call for ideas that will bring about change in their lives. I think it is selfish and bound to bring resentment to exclude them.
Lastly, read the book Nervous Conditions by Tsitsi Dangarembga, you will realize the plight of our people today and years to come, given the current situation. I hope I’m wrong.
Dear summerrain, I am not claiming that educated somalis are free from tribalism. They could be but chances are that they are less affected.

What we need is an intellectual class; something like the class that emerged out of Europe in the 16-17th century.

Thanks for the tip; IThe somali problems; all rivers lead to poverty of the mind which leads to the mismanagement of scarce resources.
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Daayuusbarar only perpetuate the Somali Condition. Ilaahay ha ka ilaaliyo masaakiinta AUP-FSDR sharka dayuusbarar.
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JaalleMarx wrote:
SummerRain wrote:Mr. Marx
I think the term “educated” is problematic in terms of Somali society. Having a degree/ acquired level of graduate studies doesn’t eliminate one from tribalism. That is to say, those educated diaspora aren’t free of tribalism. In fact they are more perilous as they are able to deploy this agent in diverse possibilities as to engulf it in every fabric of society. Have you yet to sit down with the average political scientist in diaspora and dissect his line of thinking? They are full of notions of utilizing their education to further their clan’s progress consciously or unconsciously…..i.e. tribal politicians. That can go for almost all Somalis since we are natural politicians. The question then becomes what difference exists between the two (those you want to lead the revolution and the others)? If the “uneducated diaspora” are making easy money through conflict entrepreneurship as you put it, make no mistake those educated ones are doing the same by lobbying their clansmen for their social and political gains.
I emphasized on locals spearheading your call for revolution because the issues facing Somalia affect them first hand. It is in their interest to call for ideas that will bring about change in their lives. I think it is selfish and bound to bring resentment to exclude them.
Lastly, read the book Nervous Conditions by Tsitsi Dangarembga, you will realize the plight of our people today and years to come, given the current situation. I hope I’m wrong.
Dear summerrain, I am not claiming that educated somalis are free from tribalism. They could be but chances are that they are less affected.

What we need is an intellectual class; something like the class that emerged out of Europe in the 16-17th century.

Thanks for the tip; IThe somali problems; all rivers lead to poverty of the mind which leads to the mismanagement of scarce resources.
lol InshaAllah I'll add that to my prayers.
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JaalleMarx wrote:
Warsheekh wrote:
JaalleMarx wrote:We need a revolution in thought. It should be led by the educated diaspora born class as opposed to the proletarians.

As a start; we should question the basic fabrics of Somali society; inane historicism of the tribe and the cancerous elephant in the room (tribalism).




BTW; Jaalle means comrade
Jaalle Lamagoodle lead us :wow:
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SummeRain, pray. Also make sure to engage in discussions on the revolution with your peers and contemporaries.

Warsheek, Har Meyle forsvunnit från somalinet? Åkte han till Hargeisa för att gifta sig?
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Jag vet inte vad som har hänt med honom sista gången han var här bad han Lejusticer att banna hans account. Tror han tröttnade på forumet. :down:
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Warsheekh wrote:Jag vet inte vad som har hänt med honom sista gången han var här bad han Lejusticer att banna hans account. Tror han tröttnade på forumet. :down:
Killen var duktig. Han blev besatt av politik/ ( i synerhet Somaliland )på sistone men har var smart. Hans musikbidrag saknas likaså hans analytiska förmåga
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ja verkligen! Han är intellektuel på hög nivå. Vem vet dock, kanske han kommer tillbaks.
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JaalleMarx wrote:
Lillaahiya wrote:
It is probably because of the hardship that he could write the masterpieces.
Word up to Fanon

The letter was...:lol:
His friend Engels was not impressed by Jenny.
Engels intu odhan lahaa niyow orodo shaqayso, gaajo ba idin dishay, ayuu intaas biilanayee :lol:
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Marques...... :kiss: Do u really think I have high Vanity? DO you really? I think not. Do you know- how many times we have had arguments and debates about 'vanity'??? Dating back to our luscious, smart infused debates on Jane Austen and Vanity! Her Grace, is highly pleased with you. 8-)




Lama

"What we need is an intellectual class; something like the class that emerged out of Europe in the 16-17th century."



First of all, I love that u have this opinion. :up: Such a century ma ha? Intelligence infused into Intelligencia! :stylin:

But I have to disagree with you one point. I only like England 17th, 18th and early 19th century. Her Grace, is having orgasm just thinking of it. Russia, to me -is an extremely dull people and history. The letter u posted above by "jenny" is a prime example of how dumb they were. Do u want me to post u a typical English brilliant letter? U Will have orgasm! :dj:
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JaalleMarx wrote:
zulaika wrote:My sleepless thoughts usually revolve around ways to fall asleep...
Zuleika, good one!

That is why you don't sleep; it is a vicious cycle.
Yes vicious cycle.. I really need to find a good natural sleep aid. If you know please pass along
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Zuli@Lol

Dear, u cant sleep because u have bipolar. :stylin:
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zulaika wrote:
JaalleMarx wrote:
zulaika wrote:My sleepless thoughts usually revolve around ways to fall asleep...
Zuleika, good one!

That is why you don't sleep; it is a vicious cycle.
Yes vicious cycle.. I really need to find a good natural sleep aid. If you know please pass along
Chamomile tea :up:
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Lilaahiye. :lol: Everytime I think of Marx, I cannot help but think that he forfeited his life for project Utopia; he was nearly successful.

Did you read Hegel? That is the guy to read if you want to understand Marx.
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