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^ hamza ain't French calm down, did he hire you as his defender...geez louise

jalaaludin5 wrote:

grandpakhalif wrote:The true scholar? how do we recognize them

He start with "Those who are persecuted for what they preach" . That's how you know a true scholar.

What a load of none sense. They always do what God has commanded them to do kulaha.

Hearing voices done't mean is God but time for your medication.



I guess Hamza Yussuf should get himself arrested and get some undeniable street cred.

he's a white house approved scholar, how come we see Sheikhs like Ahmed Jibril in US got arrested for having a Palestinian Charity Fund? Apparently he was financing "terrorists" a complete lie made by FBI. La, they hate what he is teaching and wish to extinguish the light of Allah but Allah will never allow them.

Perfect_Order wrote:Those guys killed muslims, but they never claimed them murtads to do so.

grandpa last week hated ISIS

now he defends them at every turn

wallahi sometimes I feel like calling the Canadian Intelligence Service and tell them we have a legit radical here in their borders on this site.

GranPa

Between you and him you display all the signs of someone on the clock with an agenda.

He practice what he preach while your talk of kaliphate and jihad is just talk, otherwise you would have been in the tick of it with ISIS.

The cleric is not clear as to why youth should not support ISIS. What have they done that violates major Islamic principles? Their actions—killing prisoners of war, expelling or taxing non-Muslims, waging an insurgency against corrupt governments—is not necessarily unIslamic behavior. Islam is not, as some like to claim, a religion of peace. Neither is it a religion of war, but it does allow for warfare and ISIS has argued that its tactics are necessary to establish an Islamic State in the face of brutal enemies—America, Iran and its shia puppets. Yes it may be argued that ISIS kills civilians; however its supporters can argue that the death of civilians is inevitable in a confused, bitter struggle and that after the dawlah is firmly established and secure Islamic protections of people and minorities will prevail.

Jove wrote:The cleric is not clear as to why youth should not support ISIS. What have they done that violates major Islamic principles? Their actions—killing prisoners of war, expelling or taxing non-Muslims, waging an insurgency against corrupt governments—is not necessarily unIslamic behavior. Islam is not, as some like to claim, a religion of peace. Neither is it a religion of war, but it does allow for warfare and ISIS has argued that its tactics are necessary to establish an Islamic State in the face of brutal enemies—America, Iran and its shia puppets. Yes it may be argued that ISIS kills civilians; however its supporters can argue that the death of civilians is inevitable in a confused, bitter struggle and that after the dawlah is firmly established and secure Islamic protections of people and minorities will prevail.

Well said, if only Democracy loving FAH (see Obama thread 2008) can break his allegiance to the red white and blue

People calling out Sh Hamza because of his invitaiton to the white house in 2001? Sheikh Hamza cannot risk his freedom and have the US gov label him a national threat, he has spent 14 years studying in Arabia and with Maliki scholars in the Maghreb, after accumulating all of that knowledge he knows the importance of having the freedom to impart it in his college in California.


The sheikh is one of the only sheikhs to have studied from a scholar who has a sanad(tradition) of scholars who taught him, and scholars of scholars who taught his scholar going all the way back to the Sahaba.

ZubeirAwal wrote:The sheikh is one of the only sheikhs to have studied from a scholar who has a sanad(tradition) of scholars who taught him, and scholars of scholars who taught his scholar going all the way back to the Sahaba.

This tradition is something we need to fight hard to maintain,
we dont want western style indoctrination centers like Medina .

The Prophet warned us of deviant scholars who mislead the people check out this video where he is advocating for calmaaniyah, Hanson was taught that the Khalifah was similar to kufr Norway!! Audhubillah if this is your Mufti than follow him to misguidance..

and the black flag hadith he quoted is weak sanad in narration! Refutation of this speech



im done here nuff said. the truth is there for all to see

Anyone else noticed all my posts from last night was deleted because of the truth and some of the mods can't take it.. I won't even post anymore about this matter since they will just delete it..

and whats up with the threats against Granpa..

grandpakhalif wrote:The Prophet warned us of deviant scholars who mislead the people check out this video where he is advocating for calmaaniyah, Hanson was taught that the Khalifah was similar to kufr Norway!! Audhubillah if this is your Mufti than follow him to misguidance..

This is why you live in Canada and not in Afghanistan. People want peace and prosperity, not endless war.

there will never be peace, jihad will continue until the day of judgement, a fact which our nabi told us so keep dreaming

Hamza yusuf is basically a fulay( a coward) like most of us western muslims. I mean, this guy sat there clapping along when bush was declaring his war. When the media asked him what a shaheed is, wuxu ku jawaabey martin luther king (zionist) could be considered a shaheed and the 911 firefighters could be considerd shaheed too. Who can take him seriously?

He said that his sheikh ( abdullah bin bayyah) said that the fire fighters who died in 9/11 were martyrs, his sheikh is from maghreb where French is common and martyr in french means one who gives ones life to save others.