I never understood why men want women from back home

[LeJusticier]

Since when did AbdiJohnson become some kind of a guardian for Somali morality?

When did his ambiguous thoughts become a standard of measurement for what's right and wrong?


This is a man who claims to be tolerant but he's intolerant against anyone who opposes his narrow minded worldview. He's worse than the terrorists, clanists he despises because they do not believe in tolerance.

You're a f-king hypocrite.


I do not plan on getting married now or in the future but I've seen girls back home that are a million times more honorable than the self hating Somali women you see in the west.


Ciddharta.

Xildiid, don't get angry. You posted your obese picture here before. I don't want you to have a heart attack.

I believe in tolerance but I don't tolerate the intolerant. Yes I am worse than terrorists and clannists who kill someone for being reer hebel or bombing a school full of kids

My views are the moral standard and are Western values and principles. Either accept them or go back to the African jungle, your natural habitat. You should not be in Stockholm if you don't believe in what we stand for. Stop begging to live with us and go home

I am,

Abdi "Dont let the door hit you on your way out" Johnson

I see that you finally mustered some courage.

So you're tolerant when you cheer the barbaric murder of innocent Palestinian children just because the majority of them happen to be Arab or Muslim?

So you're tolerant when you want to deny criminals, or what you describe as terrorists, a fair trial and due process of law under the false pretense of advocating "Western values" even though one of the central concepts of "western" thought being the rule of law.

So you're tolerant when you dismiss certain religions and cultures as either repressive or primitive?

So you're tolerant when you attack individuals that opposes your thoughts not "western culture" but your ambiguous and delusional thoughts about morality?

- If you didn't know, there's no such thing as "western" culture because "western" culture is not homogenous and if your brain could make a simple deduction from that fact your contention would be that "western" values do not exist.


I could go on..

Now, I believe that you suffer from an identity crisis and your only comfort being your childish attachment to "western" values or you're simply just another attention whore on this forum.

Either way, you're a hypocrite.

Btw, you hurt my feelings. Lmao.

Well said sxb.
I am Charlie but he could say I am Ahmed too...the innocent French police who was cowardly murderer by the wahabbi brothers.
Hebel Johnson hates us and only come here to spread his hatred.
I suggest Abdijonson to change his nick into Abdi-The_Sodom_Activist

[TheMailMan]

My views are the moral standard and are Western values and principles. Either accept them or go back to the African jungle, your natural habitat. You should not be in Stockholm if you don't believe in what we stand for. Stop begging to live with us and go home[/b]

I am,

Abdi "Dont let the door hit you on your way out" Johnson

Why do you say, "Stop begging to live with us" as if you are Swedish or British or something? Saaxib, get it through your thick skull:

Western Civilization is the creation of White Men. Their technology, their industry, their advanced systems of engineering and medicine, their civil and legal institutions, everything. It was built by them and for them. They invited you into their countries and you are a guest. Stop taking credit for something you had nothing to do with, you identity-less mutt. Audhubilah. It's like a Somali moving to China and then claiming credit for the Great Chinese Civilizations of the past! Do you hear yourself speak?

[Xildiiid]

OP reminds me of that Jesuit Somali dude that ran over a Somali Kid with his car.

Anyone who claims that he or she is tolerant is intolerant.

[ciddhartha]

Marry 'organic' as you like, but you better be making enough money that your kids don't live anywhere near the life of a refugee a lot of Somalis still live today.

Where is this irrational fear coming from? It's not based in facts.

Here is a living wage calculation for my city: http://livingwage.mit.edu/places/2502507000

If I want my household to have 2 adults and 3 children, my living wage would be $25.88/hr or $53,830.40/year.

[zumaale]

Let's not generalise. You'll find good and bad everywhere. Piety is the most important factor, if a woman is Allah fearing she will respect her man, does not matter if she was raised back home or qurbaha.

Personally, prefer one raised here that is practising. Get the best of both worlds.

[Sophisticate]

I could understand if you said the impetus for marrying someone in the west is due to commonalities or share experiences. However, to claim that someone from back home is "tying up your funds" or "not worth it" is an insult. Clearly, one that decides on that path is willing to incur the costs associated with it. Heck, their life could end up better than yours.
You could still marry a farax or xalimo from the west, that is foreign educated but limited in ambition, whereas someone from back home could be more driven to succeed and more self-confident than their western counterparts. *Remember that.*

[Jugjugwacwac]

I could understand if you said the impetus for marrying someone in the west is due to commonalities. However, to claim that someone from back home is "tying your funds" or "not worth it" is an insult. Clearly, one that decides on that path is willing to incur the costs associated with it. Heck, their life could end up better than yours.
You could still marry a farax or xalimo from the west, that is foreign educated but limited in ambition, whereas someone from back home could be more driven to succeed and more self-confident than their western counterparts. *Remember that.*

U sheeg dee.

[Otherbrother]

I could understand if you said the impetus for marrying someone in the west is due to commonalities. However, to claim that someone from back home is "tying up your funds" or "not worth it" is an insult. Clearly, one that decides on that path is willing to incur the costs associated with it. Heck, their life could end up better than yours.
You could still marry a farax or xalimo from the west, that is foreign educated but limited in ambition, whereas someone from back home could be more driven to succeed and more self-confident than their western counterparts. *Remember that.*

Bingo #respect

[MoAwr]

And how, may I ask, is this relevant to the subject in discussion?

Pay attention saaxib. This is about compatibility. Somalis who grew up in Canada/USA/Europe aren't as compatible with their cousins back home as they are to each other. That's all we're saying. I personally would never marry a woman from back home, and I'd prefer one who was raised here.

I think compatibility is the word here and You're right in many respects, however there folks like myself who've grew up here but still have an ingrained geel jire preferences. I married a girl from back home and can honestly say its been the best decision I've made. I didn't see myself Being told I had to do the dishes,cook, change nappies (when she is present and idle) and generally deal with hollywood movie ideals of marriage. She can go study and work around her wife duties and still maintain the "All rise!" judge entrance tune when I enter the house. lol

On a serious note, I try and learn the proper marital duties stipulated by our deen so we can live harmoniously.

agree

[COOL-MAN]

I could understand if you said the impetus for marrying someone in the west is due to commonalities or share experiences. However, to claim that someone from back home is "tying up your funds" or "not worth it" is an insult. Clearly, one that decides on that path is willing to incur the costs associated with it. Heck, their life could end up better than yours.
You could still marry a farax or xalimo from the west, that is foreign educated but limited in ambition, whereas someone from back home could be more driven to succeed and more self-confident than their western counterparts. *Remember that.*

Hear hear

[Lancer]

I could understand if you said the impetus for marrying someone in the west is due to commonalities or share experiences. However, to claim that someone from back home is "tying up your funds" or "not worth it" is an insult. Clearly, one that decides on that path is willing to incur the costs associated with it. Heck, their life could end up better than yours.
You could still marry a farax or xalimo from the west, that is foreign educated but limited in ambition, whereas someone from back home could be more driven to succeed and more self-confident than their western counterparts. *Remember that.*

You make the smartest and best rebuttals on here

[FieldMarshalMenace]

@soph...

I must admit that some people are driven when odds are stacked against them ...Lancer would even know this cat..he lives here in my town..I have been left in awe ..guy came here at in his early or mid 20s...he knew little to nothing of English ..he started work at a warehouse ..he enrolled himself at a community college learning ESL...the next thing folks knew was that he got a little medical assistant certificate..got himself a job working at a docs office ..then he pushed on to achieve a doctorate degree now ...

When I need motivation I remember this guy...unbelievable ...the shere perseverance and the pursuit of his goals are just aspirational

[Lancer]

@soph...

I must admit that some people are driven when odds are stacked against them ...Lancer would even know this cat..he lives here in my town..I have been left in awe ..guy came here at in his early or mid 20s...he knew little to nothing of English ..he started work at a warehouse ..he enrolled himself at a community college learning ESL...the next thing folks knew was that he got a little medical assistant certificate..got himself a job working at a docs office ..then he pushed on to achieve a doctorate degree now ...

When I need motivation I remember this guy...unbelievable ...the shere perseverance and the pursuit of his goals are just aspirational

don't project your life story on to me.

Warehouse work is hard but it gets me money

[zaki87]

its all about calaf leave it like that

[FieldMarshalMenace]

@soph...

I must admit that some people are driven when odds are stacked against them ...Lancer would even know this cat..he lives here in my town..I have been left in awe ..guy came here at in his early or mid 20s...he knew little to nothing of English ..he started work at a warehouse ..he enrolled himself at a community college learning ESL...the next thing folks knew was that he got a little medical assistant certificate..got himself a job working at a docs office ..then he pushed on to achieve a doctorate degree now ...

When I need motivation I remember this guy...unbelievable ...the shere perseverance and the pursuit of his goals are just aspirational

don't project your life story on to me.

Warehouse work is hard but it gets me money

I wasn't talking abt you ..re-read it you little coward ...I'm in your city and your afraid to face me