Koonfurians Come in

[AbdiJohnson]

I wonder this about this too. I seriously couldn't believe the bluenwhite guy was trying to link the terrorist attack to Isaaq in the other thread. I thought everybody knew by know that Alshabab transcends qabiil. How many hawiyes, daroods,raxanweyns carried out attacks in their own clan territories?Why else would they take orders from an isaaq guy unless they believed more in an ideology than qabiil. It seems like people don't care about alshabab attacks unless an isaaq person is involved. It kinda reminds me of of black on black crime being the norm in the black community but as soon as a cadaan guy kills a black person all hell breaks loose.

#KoonfurianLivesMatter

Koonfurian is a funny word... funny hashtag

I am,

Abdi "Proud Rahanweyn" Johnson

[FarhanYare]

Why when Daarood, Hawiye or Raxanweyn person carries out a terrorist attack in Muqdisho, the blame is only on the individual and Alshabab and not the person's clan but when the terrorist has the smallest and the most marginal connection to Isaaq i.e. a konfurian woman once married to an Isaaq man 20 years ago was behind the attack, this forum is flooded with conspiracy theories such as Somaliland baa ka danbaysay, Hargeysaa laga soo diray, ictiraaf bay raadinayaan and all of that nonesense?

hahaha

[Amira143]

Why when Daarood, Hawiye or Raxanweyn person carries out a terrorist attack in Muqdisho, the blame is only on the individual and Alshabab and not the person's clan but when the terrorist has the smallest and the most marginal connection to Isaaq i.e. a konfurian woman once married to an Isaaq man 20 years ago was behind the attack, this forum is flooded with conspiracy theories such as Somaliland baa ka danbaysay, Hargeysaa laga soo diray, ictiraaf bay raadinayaan and all of that nonesense?

hahaha

fitting!

[Sophisticate]

The woman involved was Gurgura from Ethiopia. Her mother is Gadabursi, Reer Nur to be precise. The other party was a Habar Yonis man.

The hotel was owned and operated by northerners and many of the causalities were from the north (of various clans). This was not a clan motivated attack. Alshabab has no clan. However, the man in charge was from the north. Also, the last attack in Somaliland was in 2008. There have luckily been no attacks of that magnitude in Somaliland ever since. I don't know if this is credited to being "tough on radicalism", is the Somaliland administration more coordinated when responding to threats and imprisoning suspected terrorists or dissidents? Maybe. However, despite having less resources allocated to military and security than Somalia, Somaliland is rather safe. It could be said that the Alshabab strong hold has always been in the south, and being far removed from them geographically is in favour of Somaliland. Plus, Somaliland has been peaceful for more than two decades, whereas the Somali Federal government was established in 2012, and its administration is constantly rotating (plus it must constantly deal with security issues).

It is well established that there are still members of Alshabab that live in Somaliland, and they haven't done anything. Methinks they care too much about Somaliland and couldn't careless if Somalia was ablaze. Double standards. They are unpredictable though, so you never know.
That's too simple and sounds more like a conspiracy theory. Even though its somewhat plausible.

I should also remind you that perhaps this establishment was targeted for a reason. To demonstrate control, to cause fear and panic among the locals. Maybe it was to send a message that northerners should divest from the south. Why? Because a stable Somalia gets in the way of Somaliland's agenda to succeed from Somalia. The international community has tried to convene these re-conciliatory meetings. They want Somalia to have a decentralized government that consists of Somaliland, Puntland and South Central Somalia. They refuse to let go it seems. I really have no clue. These crimes are unjustifiable. I'm just trying to determine a motive. Since many of you biased lot just assume Somaliland is at fault. To point blame would be far too simplistic, and would absolve Somalia too. You'd also have to point fingers outside Somalia as well (sadly, Somalis are people that are easily lead and given command from others, and these acts of terror go well beyond Al-shabab itself). These individuals (suicide bombers) are merely pack mules (even though they are culpable). If you really want to find the root cause follow the money trail. It will lead you to the financiers that started these groups to begin with and who continue to supply money. evil:

[zumaale]

Sophisticate has you covered:

The woman involved was Gurgure, a Darood clan that live in Ethiopia. She is not Dir. Her mother is Gadabursi, Reer Nur to be precise. The other party was a Habar Yonis man.

The hotel was owned and operated by northerners and many of the causalities were from the north (of various clans). This was not a clan motivated attack. Alshabab has no clan. However, the man in charge was from the north. Also, the last attack in Somaliland was in 2008. There have luckily been no attacks of that magnitude in Somaliland ever since. I don't know if this is credited to being "tough on radicalism", is the Somaliland administration more coordinated when responding to threats and imprisoning suspected terrorists or dissidents? Maybe. However, despite having less resources allocated to military and security than Somalia, Somaliland is rather safe. It could be said that the Alshabab strong hold has always been in the south, and being far removed from them geographically is in favour of Somaliland. Plus, Somaliland has been peaceful for more than two decades, whereas the Somali Federal government was established in 2012, and its administration is constantly rotating (plus it must constantly deal with security issues).

It is well established that there are still members of Alshabab that live in Somaliland, and they haven't done anything. Methinks they care too much about Somaliland and couldn't careless if Somalia was ablaze. Double standards. They are unpredictable though, so you never know.

I should also remind you that perhaps this establishment was targeted for a reason. To demonstrate control, to cause fear and panic among the locals. Maybe it was to send a message that northerners should divest from the south. Why? Because a stable Somalia gets in the way of Somaliland's agenda to succeed from Somalia. The international community has tried to convene these re-conciliatory meetings. They want Somalia to have a decentralized government that consists of Somaliland, Puntland and South Central Somalia. They refuse to let go it seems. I really have no clue. These crimes are unjustifiable. I'm just trying to determine a motive. Since many of you biased lot just assume Somaliland is at fault. Are they? To point blame would be far too simplistic. You'd have to point fingers outside Somalia as well if that were the case (sadly, Somalis are people that are easily lead and given command from others, and these acts of terror goes well beyond Al-shabab itself). These individuals (suicide bombers) are merely pack mules. If you really want to point fingers follow the money trail. It will lead you to the financiers that started these groups to begin with.

Sophisticate, ermm, sis, sorry to be the one to break it to you but but Gurgura are Dir. Their native land is in Dire Dawa, Shinile and the teritory between Harar and Dire Dawa. A few settle in the Waqooyi.

This incident has had more twists and turns than a corkscrew, would not be surprised if the narrative changes again.

[Sophisticate]

Tweaked it, you're right. Qabil wasn't the point of the argument though. Read further.

[zumaale]

Tweaked it, you're right. Qabil wasn't the point of the argument though. Read further.

I agree with your statement. I did not feel the need to highlight it when the other thread was ablaze because there is no point reasoning with people when emotion overcomes logic. BNW reacted to the posts that were celebrating the possible death of Isaaq MP's in the bomb blast. Due to their political leanings, it is understandable that they would celebrate the death of traitors to the Somaliland cause. Tis the nature of things on Somalinet. To each his own me thinks.

[Khalid Ali]

iSAAQ did this to today in Mogadishu

[Xildiiid]

Lol, they have no evidence connecting Isaaq to this Walaweyn terrorist act and people are still regurgitating shit they can't prove.

Soph,

The Dirty Waqooyis and Somalis from Somalia has no leverage whatsoever when it comes to Somaliland.

The SL government could care less about these "politicians" because they do not represent anyone and when they step inside SL they're jailed and humiliated.

[SahanGalbeed]

The best way my friends is to ignore the attention seeking whores that al shabaab are . Unfortunately we cannot blame our brothers and sisters from Somalia, given the havoc /death/destruction that al shabaab have caused on them , to remain anxious and somehow fearful in this predicament . Mark my words , Al shabaab will never go back to its former "magnificence"

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

No matter who is behind this atrocity, one thing remains clear and unobfuscated - Walaweyn are incompetent and irredeemably corrupt.