The failure rate of diaspora businesses back home is very high

[TheMailMan]

are you serious? First of all there are bantu's in lower shabelle and middle shabelle who'se always been living there. Don't confuse them with the bantu's in jubboyinka who was brought over from Tanzania and Mozambique. Secondly What is your solution? Mass killings? mass displacements? nah fuck that i rather focus on a succesful life and my Qiyama.

The Jareers who live in Middle Shabelle and Lower Shabelle are NOT a problem saaxib. I have nothing but love for those people.

I'm talking about the Bantus who live near Kismayo, in the Jubba areas of Somalia. THOSE people are Tanzanians and Mozambicans and they have nothing to do with Somalia. Those people are the problem. And they're the ones displacing you in your own land.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

are you serious? First of all there are bantu's in lower shabelle and middle shabelle who'se always been living there. Don't confuse them with the bantu's in jubboyinka who was brought over from Tanzania and Mozambique. Secondly What is your solution? Mass killings? mass displacements? nah fuck that i rather focus on a succesful life and my Qiyama.

The Jareers who live in Middle Shabelle and Lower Shabelle are NOT a problem saaxib. I have nothing but love for those people.

I'm talking about the Bantus who live near Kismayo, in the Jubba areas of Somalia. THOSE people are Tanzanians and Mozambicans and they have nothing to do with Somalia. Those people are the problem. And they're the ones displacing you in your own land.

They are more threat to you as a daarod than me. Nigga ma anaa kismayo degan? I'm from Warsheekh, Cadale area. The only non abgaal's are Jaaji fishermen. Those bantus your talking about hardly venture outside of the jubbas.They got their own language, they are sitting on 90% of the farms in the jubbas.

[TheMailMan]

are you serious? First of all there are bantu's in lower shabelle and middle shabelle who'se always been living there. Don't confuse them with the bantu's in jubboyinka who was brought over from Tanzania and Mozambique. Secondly What is your solution? Mass killings? mass displacements? nah fuck that i rather focus on a succesful life and my Qiyama.

The Jareers who live in Middle Shabelle and Lower Shabelle are NOT a problem saaxib. I have nothing but love for those people.

I'm talking about the Bantus who live near Kismayo, in the Jubba areas of Somalia. THOSE people are Tanzanians and Mozambicans and they have nothing to do with Somalia. Those people are the problem. And they're the ones displacing you in your own land.

They are more threat to you as a daarod than me. Nigga ma anaa kismayo degan? I'm from Warsheekh, Cadale area. The only non abgaal's are Jaaji fishermen. Those bantus your talking about hardly venture outside of the jubbas.They got their own language, they are sitting on 90% of the farms in the jubbas.

Saaxib I come from the deserts of Puntland, there are relatively few of these foreign Bantus where I am. Either way, these Mushunguli Bantu foreigners live all over the Jubba area of Somalia, and they have their own language and culture and they are FOREIGNERS.

Yet we have Somalis excusing this behavior. Wallahi I guarantee you if the Jubba portion of Somalia was inhabited by hundreds of thousands of White Europeans, Somalis would be in an uproar. They would demand that the Europeans leave and go live someplace else. But when it's Mushunguli Bantus, no one says a word. No one even cares. It's f-king hypocritical and we need to put a stop to this travesty SMH

[Machiavelli2]

The 3 most important factors why businesses such as manufacturing fail are:

Lack of raw materials. You have to import basic stuff such as nails, washers, bottles, cans and etc.

Lack of skilled labour with specialised training such as electricians, fitters and turners and other technicians. The government should lobby its friendly nations to establish technical institutions to encourage investors and entrepreneurs to tap into this skilled labour. Kenyan technicians now run most of Mogadishu's major hotels.

Inflation and foreign exchange's extreme fluctuations. The government can't do anything about it ATM.

Combine all of the above, cheap goods from China or India are cheaper than manufacturing them locally.

"Kenyan Technicians ran most of Mogadishu's major hotels"

Please explain how technicians from Kenya run MOST of Mogadishu hotels? While you are at it, can you name five of the MOST hotels the technicians from Kenya are running?

TheBlueandWhite

Ina adeer, though I've met a Kenyan maintenance manager in one of the hotels I was staying who told me, he had Kenyan friends working in similar positions in Somalia, the point that I was trying to illuminate was the small numbers of Somali skilled technicians in the labour market in Somalia. The Turks bring with them their own skilled technicians to work on their buildings projects. These skills are required by all over Somalia if we need to develop into the 21st century and not showcase oo meeshaan lagu faano a weird looking double storey building built by an Oromo workforce in a dusty neighbourhood without urban planning and infrastructure development. Therefore, these skilled workforce need to be trained for few years both on the worksite and @ college. An investor with limited funds can't afford to pay a highly skilled foreigner and is financially limited to train Somalis.

Mailman

If there is a lasting peace in Somalia, Somali Bantus will be the new backbone of Somalia's development and they will prefer to live in a cosmopolitan, tribally diverse areas and among their tolerant Somali brothers and sisters. Be rest-assured you won't see them in Gaalkacayo, holding AK47's, chewing khaat and destroying your prosperous and advanced city-region.

[Estarix]

Ive read cases of businesses not just employing Kenyans but also Italians. Now it's understandable considering the lack of technical skills found in Somalia. But these foreigners need to contribute in other ways than just work; such as training young Somalis. And the culture of looking down on manual labour/technical skills needs to end otherwise a future Somalia will be a poor man's Saudi Arabia where millions of foreigners from Bantus to Indians will be making a easy paycheck at the expense of the locals.

[TheMailMan]

The 3 most important factors why businesses such as manufacturing fail are:

Lack of raw materials. You have to import basic stuff such as nails, washers, bottles, cans and etc.

Lack of skilled labour with specialised training such as electricians, fitters and turners and other technicians. The government should lobby its friendly nations to establish technical institutions to encourage investors and entrepreneurs to tap into this skilled labour. Kenyan technicians now run most of Mogadishu's major hotels.

Inflation and foreign exchange's extreme fluctuations. The government can't do anything about it ATM.

Combine all of the above, cheap goods from China or India are cheaper than manufacturing them locally.

"Kenyan Technicians ran most of Mogadishu's major hotels"

Please explain how technicians from Kenya run MOST of Mogadishu hotels? While you are at it, can you name five of the MOST hotels the technicians from Kenya are running?

TheBlueandWhite

Ina adeer, though I've met a Kenyan maintenance manager in one of the hotels I was staying who told me, he had Kenyan friends working in similar positions in Somalia, the point that I was trying to illuminate was the small numbers of Somali skilled technicians in the labour market in Somalia. The Turks bring with them their own skilled technicians to work on their buildings projects. These skills are required by all over Somalia if we need to develop into the 21st century and not showcase oo meeshaan lagu faano a weird looking double storey building built by an Oromo workforce in a dusty neighbourhood without urban planning and infrastructure development. Therefore, these skilled workforce need to be trained for few years both on the worksite and @ college. An investor with limited funds can't afford to pay a highly skilled foreigner and is financially limited to train Somalis.

Mailman

If there is a lasting peace in Somalia, Somali Bantus will be the new backbone of Somalia's development and they will prefer to live in a cosmopolitan, tribally diverse areas and among their tolerant Somali brothers and sisters. Be rest-assured you won't see them in Gaalkacayo, holding AK47's, chewing khaat and destroying your prosperous and advanced city-region.

Stop fantasizing saaxib. The Bantus are a rural people and are certainly not "Cosmopolitan". You and I both know that.

Perhaps a small number of the skilled and intelligent ones will venture onto the cities, but the vast majority of them would be stuck in the Somali countryside.

[Machiavelli2]

Mailman

If there is a lasting peace in Somalia, Somali Bantus will be the new backbone of Somalia's development and they will prefer to live in a cosmopolitan, tribally diverse areas and among their tolerant Somali brothers and sisters. Be rest-assured you won't see them in Gaalkacayo, holding AK47's, chewing khaat and destroying your prosperous and advanced city-region.

Stop fantasizing saaxib. The Bantus are a rural people and are certainly not "Cosmopolitan". You and I both know that.

Perhaps a small number of the skilled and intelligent ones will venture onto the cities, but the vast majority of them would be stuck in the Somali countryside.

Mailman

If intelligence was measured on the basis as an urban-dweller, most of our relatives, oo xoolo dhaqato ah would have been termed as what? Maybe you are insinuating those who were responsible the Somali civil war and the destruction of our country were ina adeeradeena reer miyiga oo xoolo dhaqato ahaa. Kuwaa ba lagu yidhi, dee reer hebel ayaa u soo socdaa hablahiina iyo xoolihiina, dee na keena oo soo laaynee. Markaasaa warlordkii lagu daba saftey, maantana waxaa lagu shaambadeeye in our constitution 4.5 formula. Why get angry with the peaceful and productive Somali Bantu?

Tan kale, I think your aggression and lack of respect towards the Bantu Somalis oo aan wax kaa gaalabsan emanates from your environment of enculturation that of Mudug which lacked the diversity of Somalis. You remind me of these red-necks from the town of Lewiston, through the fear of the unknown demonstrated against Somalis settling there. I have second uncles and aunts from the same area of Somalia that you hail from who think that way towards Bantus Somalis whom they know very little of. Somalia's two major economies were exports of farm products and live animals and Bantu Somalis have played a major role in the production and export of farm products and even maintained these most of these farms during our civil war.

[Robotic]

If majority of the somali diasporas live on welfare, why on earth would you think that they would work hard over there?