Jugjugwacwac DNA results

[Based]

^^tell me why this whole time I thought you posted your DNA results until I just now read the op implying you were Advo.

I even logged into my 23andme to see if I had any new relatives

[jalaaludin5]

Gartay. Anna waan maahmaahay oo waxaan idhi 'nin qoyani meel u ku qalalo ma waayo'. Adna warkaasi makuu dhacay?

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Yusuf you alcoholic bastard from dhoqoshey, don't bring my parents up walaashaa isha ka wasse or I'll come to whatever damp and smelly qat-den you're lying in and curb stomp you so hard ayeeydaadi tobnaad ee xabashiyada ahayd will feel it. Fuckin yibir.

[Siciid85]

Guys walalo ayaan nahay ee ixtiraamka iyo is qadarinta ha lagu dadaalo.

I am sick and tired of this inter Somaliland verbal civil war.

[Djiboutian]

Let me ask u a question. Are you happy with the status quo of Somaliland and of Somalis in general? If yes, then we disagree. If no, then wouldnt it have been better to go about reforming the government instead of destroying it and the country in the process?

No, I am not happy with the status quo of Somaliland nor I am happy with status of Somalia.

Jugjugwacwac

Never accept being bullied into having opinion based on tribalism you made a logical response to 2 decades of human suffering much respect for you only a coward and small minded person will allow others to think for him.... and that includes a lot of darood people too....

Thanks bro. Ur right, we have extemists on all sides. To think they can't fathom me being isaaq purely because I disagree with them is mind-boggling to say the least. It just goes to show how people can become delusional when they rarely step out of their echo-chambers and circle-jerking sessions.

Individuals should not support their clans for sentimental reasons. I recall Djibouti greatest Poet Abwaan Ibrahim Sheikh Suleiman " Ibrahim Gadhle " (Rahimahu Allah) poem Mulaax:
" Maskaxdaduu yay noqon
Maqal lagula leyahay
Yan toban muftaxiiyo
Lagu furan masaabiir " .

I welcome free thinker like Abwaan Ibrahim did.

@Based. I think I distinctly remember agreeing that Afweyne was not ruthless enough. I also said that he could have avoided the whole war if he simply allowed the North some concessions and liberties. No where did I say that I agreed with him or found him and his policies as anything except abhorrent.

So we agree more than we disagree then. Siyaad was bad, no doubt. And he should have either given concessions or quickly and swiftly put down the rebellion, with as minimal civilian casualities as possible. Where we differ is, you think that despite our current situation the war to topple him was worth it, while I don't. Doesn't mean i'm a kacaanist or that im pro siyaad barre.

I do agree with you too the war to topple him was not worth it. He should quickly and swiftly put down the rebellion.

Do you understand the concept of self-determination? It's the most important things on earth and I got it full stop.

Self-determination? You're acting like you were under the yolk of a foreign power or something. Bro, before the SNM was created, and many of the Isaaq in the kacaan defected, we were well-represented in Afwayne's regime. This is a fact. Was his government corrupt and ruthless? Yes. But was it worth toppling it and plunging the south into perpetual chaos and anarchy and leaving Somaliland a fledgling nation, struggling to provide the basics for its citizens for decades to come? Not to mention the countless people who perished in the rebellions on all sides and the ugly clan wars that led to neighbour killing neighbour rwanda style, the wounds which are still yet to heal. And don't forget a lost and rudderless diaspora who are just one decade away from social break down levels similar to the african americans, with their single-moms, crime, violence and general degeneracy and lack of class. I personally wouldn't think it was worth it even if Somaliland was flourishing, because I can't help but feel the situation in the south is my plight too, because they're my peopl. But with Somaliland itself having nothing to offer its citizens except a fragile clan mediated peace, poverty, political limbo, predatory politicians and tahriib , leading our youth to die in the high seas, i'm even more convinced that the so called liberation war was in fact responsible for our bondage, placing our destinies squarely in the hands of filthy xabashis and san-gadhuudhi's, who only a couple of decades before would have trembled at the mention of the mighty Somali army. We Isaaqs are savvy and blessed with resources...we could've found another way instead of burning the house down.

Couldn't say it better.

I'm just wondering Jugjugwacwac why did you put ungrateful person like Ex. Ambassador Abdulrahman Ahmed Ali as your avatar? He violated his oath of office and joined desperado who destoryed Somalia

You should change your avatar and apologize to Somalis.

[jalaaludin5]

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[Thuganomics]

[Khalid Ali]

Fighting afweyne was a legit war if you ask the SNM today once again they will do it again if was 1981 again and the Darood were in Mogadishu and were leading their Tribal government the Isaaq would fight untill the house fall aparts.
I think Jug is isaaq but he is a misguided isaaaq give him a few session with me and he will be fine he will speak like a proud Ciidagale Isaaq man

[jalaaludin5]

Jugwacwac hadu ciidagale yahay wale inaanu been ku hadlin.

[Jugjugwacwac]

So Djibouti and Jalaaludin agree with me. I'm not the only Isaaq to think this way. Interesting.

[Advo]

So Djibouti and Jalaaludin agree with me. I'm not the only Isaaq to think this way. Interesting.

[Typhoon]

That's rich coming from a Siyadist

I no longer subscribe to clannism or even the very notion of distinct Somali clans. I have always reaffirmed my belief that a poor government is preferable to no government. However, I also welcome a difference of opinion and have on more than one occasion expressed support for SL's right of self determination with a few small caveats.

@LH, that is essentially what I stated. I'm not some apologist for a terribly flawed government, but I do think that the quarter century of anarchy created by the power vacuum is infinitely worse than the old status quo.

@Jug

"on more than one occasion," waliba, so this affair has been going on without the knowledge of the politburo.
Generalbundesanwalt ximaanjaale LLM will have field-day with this.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

So Djibouti and Jalaaludin agree with me. I'm not the only Isaaq to think this way. Interesting.

I see what you did there.

[Based]

That's rich coming from a Siyadist

I no longer subscribe to clannism or even the very notion of distinct Somali clans. I have always reaffirmed my belief that a poor government is preferable to no government. However, I also welcome a difference of opinion and have on more than one occasion expressed support for SL's right of self determination with a few small caveats.

@LH, that is essentially what I stated. I'm not some apologist for a terribly flawed government, but I do think that the quarter century of anarchy created by the power vacuum is infinitely worse than the old status quo.

@Jug

"on more than one occasion," waliba, so this affair has been going on without the knowledge of the politburo.
Generalbundesanwalt ximaanjaale LLM will have field-day with this.

I just put myself on Ximanjaale's hit list

[Jugjugwacwac]

I see what you did there.

And that is?