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eliteSomali wrote:One does not need to read the whole book to find misinformation in the book. I think the Shaikh stated the parts of the book that contained misinformation. I think that's fair.

What does misinformation mean elite saaxib?
I guess, you mean a different kind of interoperation of the subject matter.

As a wadaad, you should read the whole book, discuss your main points of concern, address these in a manner that does not endanger and if possible write a critical book(essay.

This was a case of seef la boodnimo and HUBRIS(somali wadaads are victims of this phenomenon).

Lamagoodle wrote:

eliteSomali wrote:One does not need to read the whole book to find misinformation in the book. I think the Shaikh stated the parts of the book that contained misinformation. I think that's fair.

What does misinformation mean elite saaxib?
I guess, you mean a different kind of interoperation of the subject matter.

As a wadaad, you should read the whole book, discuss your main points of concern, address these in a manner that does not endanger and if possible write a critical book(essay.

This was a case of seef la boodnimo and HUBRIS(somali wadaads are victims of this phenomenon).

Not everyone has the knowledge to interpret the religion. I think Sheeka waad u Gaftay sxb. He read the first 50 pages and found dozens of errors in them. What is wrong with sharing that? You do not have to wait to finish the entire book to bring those errors to the attention of the masses. NIgga said Satan will go to paradise.

eliteSomali wrote:

Lamagoodle wrote:

eliteSomali wrote:One does not need to read the whole book to find misinformation in the book. I think the Shaikh stated the parts of the book that contained misinformation. I think that's fair.

What does misinformation mean elite saaxib?
I guess, you mean a different kind of interoperation of the subject matter.

As a wadaad, you should read the whole book, discuss your main points of concern, address these in a manner that does not endanger and if possible write a critical book(essay.

This was a case of seef la boodnimo and HUBRIS(somali wadaads are victims of this phenomenon).

Not everyone has the knowledge to interpret the religion. I think Sheeka waad u Gaftay sxb. He read the first 50 pages and found dozens of errors in them. What is wrong with sharing that? You do not have to wait to finish the entire book to bring those errors to the attention of the masses. NIgga said Satan will go to paradise.

So Elite saaxib, are you telling me you read a few pages of a book and make judgement/draw conclusions? Did he read the other 90+ pages? That is against the basic foundation of islam (particularly if you are a sheikh) which is based on collecting all the evidence, reflecting, choosing your words and making a rebuttal. The impact of Sheikh Umul's fatwa and that other drop out) or he perhaps never made it) whose name eludes me at the moment is that the author (an islamic scholar) is in hiding; his life is in danger because sheikh umul who did not read the whole book and the other charlatan have condemned him to death.

The posters who are claiming/ condoning that UMUL did the right thing are equally guilty.

Listen to this;

4.05- Sheikh Mohamed Idris

6.05 ; how they changed the name of the book in order to condemn him


UMUL and the other charlatans suggest that he was paid by foreigner; listen to 7+


Ladies and gentlemen this is what Wahabi sheikhs do; they lie.

ADEER LAMGUDLE

IF I READ ONLY ONE PAGE AND THAT PAGE SAYS SATAN IS GOING TO JANNA. I WON'T WASTE MY TIME READING THE REST OF THE BOOK. WHAT KIND OF BS IS THAT. I DON'T CARE WHICH SCHOLAR WROTE THE BOOK.

HayWire wrote:ADEER LAMGUDLE

IF I READ ONLY ONE PAGE AND THAT PAGE SAYS SATAN IS GOING TO JANNA. I WON'T WASTE MY TIME READING THE REST OF THE BOOK. WHAT KIND OF BS IS THAT. I DON'T CARE WHICH SCHOLAR WROTE THE BOOK.

Adeerkis; you should read the whole book; how do you know whether that was a hypothesis, a proposition or a statement to falsify?

These are the basic foundations of scholarship.

You should read the whole book to draw conclusions. Listen to the clip I posted.

Lamagoodle

ADEER I AM AT WORK NOW, I WILL LISTEN TO IT LATER.

PS I AM ANGRY THAT YOU IMPLIED THAT I AM NOT A REAL HAG THE OTHER NIGHT, I LET IT SLIDE. WILL YOU CAMPAIGN FOR ME TO GET THE MODSHIP? THERE NEEDS TO BE A BALANCE OF POWER HERE, WE ARE OUT NUMBERED BY OTHER CLANS AND THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.

I AM OUT OF THIS THREAD ANYWAY, I AM NOT INTO RELIGIOUS DEBATES.

HayWire wrote:

Lamagoodle

ADEER I AM AT WORK NOW, I WILL LISTEN TO IT LATER.

PS I AM ANGRY THAT YOU IMPLIED THAT I AM NOT A REAL HAG THE OTHER NIGHT, I LET IT SLIDE. WILL YOU CAMPAIGN FOR ME TO GET THE MODSHIP? THERE NEEDS TO BE A BALANCE OF POWER HERE, WE ARE OUT NUMBERED BY OTHER CLANS AND THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.

I AM OUT OF THIS THREAD ANYWAY, I AM NOT INTO RELIGIOUS DEBATES.

Listen and make up your mind.

As regards HAG, waxaasi waa laga tagay adeer; Ask Abdiwahab who laid its philosophical foundation. The new kid on the block is Damjadiid and as I told you before, this elusive but all waxii dhiig lahow kaca club, an offshot of HAG, is represented by yours trully.

Just joking guys. I don't know what Damjadid is; I see that name often on Amin Amir cartoons

HayWire wrote:ADEER LAMGUDLE

IF I READ ONLY ONE PAGE AND THAT PAGE SAYS SATAN IS GOING TO JANNA. I WON'T WASTE MY TIME READING THE REST OF THE BOOK. WHAT KIND OF BS IS THAT. I DON'T CARE WHICH SCHOLAR WROTE THE BOOK.

Waakaas. If a white supremacist writes a book and in the first 50 pages he talks about how his "race" is superior to others, raali iga noqo, buugaas waa qashin. I would throw it away too. And just because an the man who authored this book is a "scholar" doesn't give him special status. The bit about nabi Ibrahim was a lie. Many orientalists were "scholars" but that doesn't make their views gospel. You have mathematics and related sciences, but everything else is not black and white but rather grey, including this. Lamagoodle, with respect walaal, let's just agree to disagree without calling each other guilty. Islam, like Christianity, has a broad spectrum (again, not black and white, but grey). How are you any different from the salafis (or wahabis, or whatever you want to call them) when you call them pathological liars just because they disagree with your views on Islam? I didn't call you guilty of anything walaal, so please don't call me guilty and we're good.

Kareem99 wrote:

HayWire wrote:ADEER LAMGUDLE

IF I READ ONLY ONE PAGE AND THAT PAGE SAYS SATAN IS GOING TO JANNA. I WON'T WASTE MY TIME READING THE REST OF THE BOOK. WHAT KIND OF BS IS THAT. I DON'T CARE WHICH SCHOLAR WROTE THE BOOK.

Waakaas. If a white supremacist writes a book and in the first 50 pages he talks about how his "race" is superior to others, raali iga noqo, buugaas waa qashin. I would throw it away too. And just because an the man who authored this book is a "scholar" doesn't give him special status. The bit about nabi Ibrahim was a lie. Many orientalists were "scholars" but that doesn't make their views gospel. You have mathematics and related sciences, but everything else is not black and white but rather grey, including this. Lamagoodle, with respect walaal, let's just agree to disagree without calling each other guilty. Islam, like Christianity, has a broad spectrum (again, not black and white, but grey). How are you any different from the salafis (or wahabis, or whatever you want to call them) when you call them pathological liars just because they disagree with your views on Islam? I didn't call you guilty of anything walaal, so please don't call me guilty and we're good.

Ok. Fair enough saaxib. Just one thing; I am assuming that in Islamic scholarship just like any other kind of scholarship, making hypothesis is common. In addition, to draw conclusions you need to read the whole book.

Please listen to the author

Waa inoo markale.

I don't care what happens to Umul. He laid in bed with the Kenyans for too long, and now they turned on him. What was that famous saying "you reap what you sow".

Wadaad and ganacsade at the same time. Wadaad lacagta laga freeze gareynaayo is oxymoron. Subxaanka yaa Cadiim.

LOL. Lamagoodle: But sometimes you do not need to read the whole book. If the first 50 pages of the book are filled with errors, misinformation and the slandering of the prophet, do you suppose it will get better after that? Sheekada hada ma waxaad leedahay qoraal waa galin dambe?
The whole book smells like something Dr. yalaxoow would write.

Most of the so called Somali Culima are wahhabi and work closely with Saudi state funded extremist. We all know Saudi have ignited time bomb by funding global spread of radical Islam. and they are responsible for the rise of the extremist Islam that inspires beheaders such as Shabab, Boko and Isil terrorists. They spent billions of dollars on promoting a militant and proselytising interpretation of their faith derived from Abdul Wahhab, an eighteenth century scholar of Salaf.
There I am quite happy to see any effective vaccine to eradicate Wahabbism.


Le justicier

"Radical Islam"

Advo wrote:"Radical Islam"

I was raised by Muslim Sufi Culima and I love him very much unlike many kids here who were taught saudi well funded clerks and taught sectarian extremism, hatred for Sufi, grave digging, destroying Islamic countries heritage, beheading, hand cutting...you name it.


Adiguse, you aren't raised Saudi funded clerk....waxaagu waa imaqashi imadadaali


ii wad sheekada