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Wa sax walaal.Kareem99 wrote:Udun, Kaafiye, and TheMightyNomad, congrats for even acknowledging these fools and being able to carry a discussion with them.
They've been told, time and again by different members of this forum, that our pride in our ancestry, culture, and language is NOT SYNONYMOUS with hatred nor supremacy.
Basra- wrote:Yuvun aka Chelsea
Your Love for the Adoon Gu.s is unmatched. Its almost want to make me a believer of the Adoon Gu.s!I mean, is it that big and good?
Again my friend AA culture is not your problem. AAs are a convenient target that you can latch on to instead of doing the real hard work to figure out why these kids are going astray. Don't blame AAs. I know too many people of all ethnicities who are into many aspects of AA culture and who are exemplary individuals. Again you need proper focus and stop trying to create a racial bogeyman in AAs.Kaafiye wrote:I don't know if you're being deliberately illiterate, or whether you're being sincere here. No one could possibly be that dumb. I literally just acknowledged that Somalis as a group are deeply flawed, and we've mounted criticisms against some Somali behavior literally THOUSANDS of times on this forum. Again, you don't pay attention, that's your problem here.iandi wrote:My friend just about all young people in america and around the world imitate african americans....trust me. But you act as though whatever your young people pick up from AA culture is the reason for all that goes wrong in their lives. Never mind that they or their parents just came from a country devastated by their own people....never mind that they could be carrying all kinds of baggage from those conflicts....never mind that the tribal baggage ingrained in their dna might have a part to play as well...............oh no....its the black americans fault. You need proper perpective. Black Americans are not to blame for troubles that somali yout get into when they come to america or any where else...period. Again you all need proper focus.Kaafiye wrote: No one here has ever denied that Somalis as a group are deeply flawed, and that we have some serious societal issues we need to fix. But don't you dare imply that our struggles are your struggles. Don't try to categorize me with you based on nothing more than wishful thinking. And Somalis push back against the Arabs on this forum constantly, don't blame us because you haven't been paying attention.
And we are fixated upon the Somalis who imitate the destructive aspects of AA culture, anyone with a basic reading comprehension would be able to understand this. If Somalis didn't imitate it, then we'd have nothing to say about it, as it wouldn't involve us.
And the Somalis who imitate AA culture are a real problem, anyone with a shred of honesty would admit this. Maybe you're only saying this because you've never even met a Somali in real life, but the Somali boys who are locked up in Canada and the USA are overwhelmingly those who imitate this destructive "gangster" culture. It is a real problem, and these young Somalis have adopted the behavior, the lingo, and even the dress code of a completely foreign people.... based on the misguided notion that they're "Black".
You have absolutely zero perspective.
Don't be lazy...you are the one who brought up statistics. If you are going to site statistics regarding black men in prison then its encumbent upon you, if you are being honest, to state how many of these people fall under the categories that i described above.gegiroor wrote:Ah, you're trying to come up excuses nowiandi wrote:Ok now go find out how many of those black men are in for non-violent drug offenses.....and while you're at it...find out how many are in for three strikes and you're out in california where someone caught for shop-lifting can be put away for years....while you are at that try to find out who are targeted with stop and frisk and how that affects the numbers....while you are at that find out how many poor youths can afford a defense attorney who can argue their cases for them. When you get thru all of that then maybe you will come to understand the fallacy of your ways....maybe....but i won't hold my breathe.gegiroor wrote:
Finally, we (Muslims) have statistics on our side to fight back when Western media and dummies like you run with the false terrorist charges. Ok what statistics do you have on your side to fight back against the over 1 million black men in America's prison population when the population numbers of black Americans are less than 12% of America's population. Gee, you're jumping around and very insecure in your arguments. Learn to hold a line and argue with facts, instead of resorting to insults, jumping from false argument to another, and still thinking you're smarter than everyone else. I am losing my brain cells with you, Get lost, weirdo
As for the stats on terrorism....perception is a bitch isn't it........the irony!
Again, I still sympathize to those who are unjustly incarcerated.
As for terrorism, smart people know the facts, who cares what people - whose opinions are influenced by media soundbites - think? They are dummies any way, just like you, and they have no influences on real issues. Today over 80% of Americans question the official story of 9/11. That is the mood change in America
Scientific Poll: 84% Reject Official 9/11 Story
http://www.globalresearch.ca/scientific ... story/3553
Listen here former Head of CIA Operations Michael Scheuer clashing American politicians about the causes of Muslim grievances:
You realize what you did what that opening statement genius? You jumped into the fray with a vicious uppercut that found its way to your own front teeth. lol.Kareem99 wrote:Udun, Kaafiye, and TheMightyNomad, congrats for even acknowledging these fools and being able to carry a discussion with them.
They've been told, time and again by different members of this forum, that our pride in our ancestry, culture, and language is NOT SYNONYMOUS with hatred nor supremacy. It is not my intent to change their thinking: they hate Somalis, perhaps because of some personal negative experiences. But I won't hate their people because of the hate they have for my people. Trinis are such nice and wonderful people, and a Trini bloke who feels compelled to insult Somalis on a SOMALI discussion forum doesn't change my positive experiences with Trinidadians.
Come back when Somalis give two fucks about what people think of us. There are white and black supremacist websites, Jewish racists, and all kinds of other bigots from virtually every ethnic group, and (UNLIKE YOU) that will never lead me to make faulty conclusions about the entirety of those aforementioned groups...so what's your beef with Somalis? Honestly, you have no life. You're no different than whites who join black forums to insult them, or Jews who join Christian forums to insult them for kicks, provocation, or who knows what. Mental and psychological pathology at its finest.
PS: if your response to this is more and more insult (predictably), go right ahead if it will make you feel better.
gegiroor wrote:Jumping corner to corner is all that this weirdo character named iandi is doing. I am done with you! No point of continuing any discussion with you
I think so too. But just when I thought there couldn't be any further twists to this seemingly eternal discussion, a new low occurs. Here we have an Afro-Trini bloke who:SiennaEarth wrote:This shxt is getting boring yo!
Bilis wrote:Wa sax walaal.Kareem99 wrote:Udun, Kaafiye, and TheMightyNomad, congrats for even acknowledging these fools and being able to carry a discussion with them.
They've been told, time and again by different members of this forum, that our pride in our ancestry, culture, and language is NOT SYNONYMOUS with hatred nor supremacy.
I second that! It's pretty weird to be on a Somali forum and yet claim to hate Somalis.Kareem99 wrote:I think so too. But just when I thought there couldn't be any further twists to this seemingly eternal discussion, a new low occurs. Here we have an Afro-Trini bloke who:SiennaEarth wrote:This shxt is getting boring yo!
1) Has a disdain for Somalis (a little racist?) and paints them all with the same brush - all based on a a few web discussions
2) Never met a Somali in real life (by his own admission)
3) Gets a "satisfaction" out of insulting Somalis (pretty close to trolling)
4) ^^ Paradoxical because he's racist towards Somalis
It's rather strange when he's the racist here, and I'm not. I have respect for all decent humans, irrespective of ethnic background. It's not in me to hate on any group of people, and I certainly wouldn't go on a French discussion forum for the sake of dissing French people (without actually meeting a French person). Pretty sad really. But hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion, however revolting it is.
It's becoming resoundingly clear that you jump to conclusions and make egregious assumptions about Somalis too. You claim we make sweeping generalizations and should be faulted for that, when you are doing the same. Colonial writings are slanted and contradictory at times (that's why you view them with a degree of skepticism)- true. However, its well established that Somalis were not acquiescent to anyone and this point is quite consistent. Why are you offended by that point. Do you want to alter Somali history and have Somali forbearers be inculcated with low-self esteem and a servile attitude? If anything I find it quite depressing that this strong sense of self and boldness is diminishing with some of the youth. What a pity. I guess some are afflicted with an identity crisis of eminence proportions. That they prefer to be anything other than Somali. Poor cultural runaways.Yuvun wrote:Meh, it's pretty clear you guys lack the critical thinking skills to do any reasonable discourse. I mean, did any of you guys see that idiot "ThemightyNomad" make the claim that Nigerians are poor by citing a newspaper which talks about how AFRICAN-AMERICANS (not Nigerians) are poorer in Baltimore than Ibadan (Nigeria). Am I seriously the only one that noticed this?
You guys are too fixated on scientific racism, I guess when you're in such a state that our people are currently in you cling onto whatever ideals you can that breed false sense of superiority. Idiots taking pride in not coming from slavery, in being people that enslaved others, in bullshit that f-king colonialist wrote (which were often contradictory to what other colonist observed).
Inshallah y'all actually start achieving something in your lives for you to stop being so wrapped up in this shit.
Peace, a nigga's out.
No one will truly respect them.
Are you illiterate? Its says nigerians in baltimore not african american! You completly ignore the video as well! You must be officially the dumbest most self hating somali i met!Yuvun wrote:Meh, it's pretty clear you guys lack the critical thinking skills to do any reasonable discourse. I mean, did any of you guys see that idiot "ThemightyNomad" make the claim that Nigerians are poor by citing a newspaper which talks about how AFRICAN-AMERICANS (not Nigerians) are poorer in Baltimore than Ibadan (Nigeria). Am I seriously the only one that noticed this?
You fuckin nuttjob hypocrit! You Complain about what colonial wrote becuz it is contrary to what you said! Yet you started this thread proclaiming we had f-king superiority complex by posting stuff that the british wrote! What kind of retarded hypocritical nuttjob are you?You guys are too fixated on scientific racism, I guess when you're in such a state that our people are currently in you cling onto whatever ideals you can that breed false sense of superiority. Idiots taking pride in not coming from slavery, in being people that enslaved others, in bullshit that f-king colonialist wrote (which were often contradictory to what other colonist observed).
Pathetic you are Running off After i exposed ur self hating lies with articles and facts!Inshallah y'all actually start achieving something in your lives for you to stop being so wrapped up in this shit.
