4 Somalis Shot Dead in Canada

[SaciidAyanleh]

The disintegration of the Somali diasporic family, as Jaidi suggested, is a far better answer than your usual nonsense. That coupled with culturally lax boundaries for male youth outside of the house paints a better picture than "Adoon culture is to blame!"

[Kaafiye]

The disintegration of the Somali diasporic family, as Jaidi suggested, is a far better answer than your usual nonsense. That coupled with culturally lax boundaries for male youth outside of the house paints a better picture than "Adoon culture is to blame!"

You haven't paid attention to what was said. Kindly exit this thread

I dare you to visit Somali-dominated neighborhoods in Toronto, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

[SaciidAyanleh]

How many of these kids live in single mother households? How many have fathers who are largely absent from their lives? How many of them were allowed free roam with no supervision from early ages?

Yeah, you're right. Black people are the reason for OUR problems.

[Kaafiye]

How many of these kids live in single mother households? How many have fathers who are largely absent from their lives? How many of them were allowed free roam with no supervision from early ages?

Yeah, you're right. Black people are the reason for OUR problems.

There are tons of Somali-Canadian boys who grow up in 2-parent households, with active parents and yet who are still dragged into this lifestyle. But I wouldn't expect you to know this.

You're literally the 5th most retarded person I've spoken to all week. Just quit talking. Do me that favor please

[Bandit]

I remember my mom suggested this stupid idea to me talking about is good for you.
I told her waisting my time following camels wasn't gonna get me anywhere in life

If you were a thug, dropped out of school, and was in the risk of going to jail as soon as you hit 18, you should have been sent to bachome. You should have been kept there at least 3 years, and you would have come back as a reformed man. Keep in mind the intention is to save these kids from going to jail. Black Americans do it too. If they have relatives in small cities, they send their kids to them once they start having issues at school and in the neighborhood.

Nah sxb my mom over exaggerate things these days she wants to do a quran saar on me for being lazy

[SaciidAyanleh]

How many of these kids live in single mother households? How many have fathers who are largely absent from their lives? How many of them were allowed free roam with no supervision from early ages?

Yeah, you're right. Black people are the reason for OUR problems.

There are tons of Somali-Canadian boys who grow up in 2-parent households, with active parents and yet who are still dragged into this lifestyle. But I wouldn't expect you to know this.

You're literally the 5th most retarded person I've spoken to all week. Just quit talking. Do me that favor please

I understand your social group consists of retards so please, indulge me.

"Tons of..." that's a really easy statement to say without any proof, although I suspect you're lying.

In contrast to the overall population, Canadians of African origin are more likely than the rest of the population to be lone parents. In 2001, 11% of African people aged 15 and over were lone parents, compared with 6% for the overall population. As with the rest of the population, though, women make up the large majority of African lone parents. That year, women made up 87% of all African lone parents, while the figure in the rest of the population was 81%.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/89-621-x/8 ... -eng.htm#6

Other issues facing Somali youth are unemployment and lack of marketable skills.

[gegiroor]

I remember my mom suggested this stupid idea to me talking about is good for you.
I told her waisting my time following camels wasn't gonna get me anywhere in life

If you were a thug, dropped out of school, and was in the risk of going to jail as soon as you hit 18, you should have been sent to bachome. You should have been kept there at least 3 years, and you would have come back as a reformed man. Keep in mind the intention is to save these kids from going to jail. Black Americans do it too. If they have relatives in small cities, they send their kids to them once they start having issues at school and in the neighborhood.

Nah sxb my mom over exaggerate things these days she wants to do a quran saar on me for being lazy

Warrior, adeer, there is nothing wrong with Qur'aan saar. You will benefit it, and there is a reason why your mom suggests it.

[gegiroor]

How many of these kids live in single mother households? How many have fathers who are largely absent from their lives? How many of them were allowed free roam with no supervision from early ages?

Yeah, you're right. Black people are the reason for OUR problems.

There are tons of Somali-Canadian boys who grow up in 2-parent households, with active parents and yet who are still dragged into this lifestyle. But I wouldn't expect you to know this.

You're literally the 5th most retarded person I've spoken to all week. Just quit talking. Do me that favor please

What do you expect from a guy who embraced qowmaluudnimo? Why is he discussing Somali issues when his butt-boys are the maddows? It is just weird.

[Kaafiye]

How many of these kids live in single mother households? How many have fathers who are largely absent from their lives? How many of them were allowed free roam with no supervision from early ages?

Yeah, you're right. Black people are the reason for OUR problems.

There are tons of Somali-Canadian boys who grow up in 2-parent households, with active parents and yet who are still dragged into this lifestyle. But I wouldn't expect you to know this.

You're literally the 5th most retarded person I've spoken to all week. Just quit talking. Do me that favor please

I understand your social group consists of retards so please, indulge me.

"Tons of..." that's a really easy statement to say without any proof, although I suspect you're lying.

In contrast to the overall population, Canadians of African origin are more likely than the rest of the population to be lone parents. In 2001, 11% of African people aged 15 and over were lone parents, compared with 6% for the overall population. As with the rest of the population, though, women make up the large majority of African lone parents. That year, women made up 87% of all African lone parents, while the figure in the rest of the population was 81%.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/89-621-x/8 ... -eng.htm#6

Other issues facing Somali youth are unemployment and lack of marketable skills.

Look at this fool trying to make excuses again for bad Somali behavior in Canada. Canada is one of the most multicultural countries in the world, with refugee/immigrants coming in from all over the world. We have large populations of South Asians, Southeast Asians, Arabs, Eastern Europeans, and others who are new to this country. Many of them lived in poverty and yet their statistics are nowhere NEAR as bad as ours. When you have more than half of all Somali boys failing to graduate high-school on time, then you have a problem. And their bad behavior is further reinforced by this rotten "gangsta" culture. Ask Jugjug, or Methylamine, or Sophisticate, or any other Somali-Canadian and they'll say solidly that Somali boys in Canada have a cultural issue.

Stop with this "African parents" comparison. West Africans are doing FAR better than we Somalis, and if you want to break down the numbers then we should compare the statistics comparing Somali immigrant children with West-African immigrant children, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

But continue to be making excuses for these cuunto-boys you degenerate troll.

[SaciidAyanleh]

Oh, so you're saying if it weren't for West Africans, that lone parent statistic would be much larger for just Somalis? Yeah, I already knew that.

There are parallels between the lower strata of black communities and the lower strata of Somali communities, those being single-parent households, welfare dependence, poverty, bad schools, poor services, etc.

Kaafiye, you're always looking for someone to blame when there are larger forces at work.

[Kaafiye]

Oh, so you're saying if it weren't for West Africans, that lone parent statistic would be much larger for just Somalis? Yeah, I already knew that.

There are parallels between the lower strata of black communities and the lower strata of Somali communities, those being single-parent households, welfare dependence, poverty, bad schools, poor services, etc.

Kaafiye, you're always looking for someone to blame when there are larger forces at work.

That's literally what I said above. Either you're functionally retarded or you're being deliberately manipulative here.

I never once blamed outsiders for the failures of the Somali-Canadian community. I've said above that it was OUR fault and our fault alone. You're the one that's making excuses for this behavior, talking about this "welfare" or "bad schools" balaayo.

Stop with your victimhood mentality. You're embarrassing yourself here.

[SaciidAyanleh]

The Somalis in Canada have become indistinguishable from Adoons.

Just look at this video and you'll see what I'm talking about. These are the result of following a rotten "gangsta" culture, and how it completely destroyed a generation of our men.

If that's not placing blame entirely on "youth imitating AA culture," then you got me bro, I concede.


Children do not fail a society, society fails children.

[Kaafiye]

If that's not placing blame entirely on "youth imitating AA culture," then you got me bro, I concede.


Children do not fail a society, society fails children.

Yes. It's Somali youth who imitate AA "gangsta" culture. The Somalis who stay away from this culture do far better than those who are involved in it. That's placing the blame on the Somali youth who followed this destructive path. So yes, I did place the blame at our own feet and this isn't the first time I've done this. This "gangsternimo" has ruined Somali boys in Canada and the fact that you make excuses for this behavior shows to me how despicable you are.

Just please stop talking. Just stop. I don't wanna hear it. I find you disgusting and please don't reply to me.

[Jaidi]

The Somalis in Canada have become indistinguishable from Adoons.

Just look at this video and you'll see what I'm talking about. These are the result of following a rotten "gangsta" culture, and how it completely destroyed a generation of our men.

Even Somali in tune with their culture are doing terrible in the West, don't blame other peoples culture. Scandinivia, Western Europe, UK, in almost every place Somalis are at the very bottom when it comes to every metric.

Also many West African and Caribbean (in the U.S.) immigrants do better than Somalis on every single outcome, how do you explain this? What about Eritrean/Ethiopian kids man who grow up in similar circumstances, have many who dress and like the same things but are much less prone to killing each other?

These one stop solutions that emphasize culture or religion ignore the big picture that is Somalis generally are doing bad everywhere.

Do you actually have the nerve to be defending this rotten "gangsta" culture, and claiming that it's not the main reason why Somalis in Canada are doing terribly? Are you kidding me?

I know plenty of West Africans, including Ghanaians and Nigerians, who tell me personally to run far far away from this destructive AA culture. Even THEY know how dangerous it is, even THEY know what the long-term implications of following this culture would be. Talk to any Senegalese or Cameroonian immigrant in the US, and he will tell you the exact same thing. This "gangsta" behavior is a culture in and of itself, and it's predominant in AA neighborhoods in the US, in rap music videos, as well as TV shows. The Somali-Canadians have imitated this culture and it's led to the destruction of an entire generation of our men. Hence why you're starting to see high dropout rates at our highschools, high murder rates, and high incarceration rates. We've started to see Somali boys adopt the mannerisms, lingo, and behavior of AA's, and anyone who's well-acquainted with Somali-Canadians will say the exact same thing.

I don't know exactly what you're so outraged about It can be blamed for an extent of the problem but not the entirety of it as you claim. Exonerating a failing culture and community at large clearly suggests denial. Address the points I actually raised directly rather than carry on with your extreme hyperbole.

I get the sense you've either never been to the U.S. or are extremely sheltered. Have you ever actually met children of West African immigrants that you cite? The vast majority of the second generation West African kids in the States like hiphop in their youth and borrow many elements from black American culture, yet continue to fare much better than Somalis and do not kill each at large. Unless you directly address this divergence, Ill assume you're trolling for the crowd.

[Jaidi]

lol @ constantly posting videos of these kids rapping as an explanation for their failures. You realize you can post tons of videos of famous rappers from other immigrant communities that do not murder each other at an outrageous rate. How do you explain how you've got guys like Wale, Chamillionaire, Akon etc yet their communities are not in shambles?