ZubeirAwal wrote:The burden of proof is not the clear Muslims, its on the likes of Sodomy-advocates like Sacid, our religion does not adhere to the ungodly regressions of the godless melting pot that is the 'Western World' , so do not try to paint this picture of comprimise to the point you pray 5 times a day and fast only then to clap your hands while watching two sodomites kiss each other.
Has it not occured to you that there is a possibility that the homosexual citizens of Sodom most probably argued against Prophet Lot (pbuh) by saying :
" Were born this way... Leave us alone were not harming you... your backwards and were progressive.."
Behold, to Allah this use of attractive terminology will never be enough to sugar coat the true nature of the advocates who support this abnormality.
The parable of Sacid is like that of the hypocrites of Medina, who professed their belief in Allah and his prophets when they were in the company of the Muslims. He is a hypocrite, who wishes to lambast the religion with repeated failed arguements that have origins in the West, such as the slavery arguement.
Has it not occured to you that Islam has never been represented at the governmental level since the transfer of power from Hasan ibn Ali to Muawiya ibn Abu Sufyan? That the Prophet said " Governance upon the path of prophecy will remain 30 years after I die, and then there will be dynastic kings ruling over you, and then tyrants and dictators, and then in the end governance upon the path of prophecy will return ".
Your logic : " Islam is bad because the Ottomans has slave girls in harems " we don't recognise the Ottomans, the Seljuks, the Mamluks, the Abbasids, the Ummayad, and Saudi Arabia as rulers upon what the Prophet and his righteous caliphs were upon. It is like me saying France is a bad country because in the 14th century they held a conference in Paris on whether women were human or not. The hypocrites bounce between belief and disbelief, for them Allah will place them in the darkest abyss in a Jahannam.
What is stopping you from leaving this backward religion that condones slavery Sacid? A religion that doesn't recognise this ridiculous " rainbow spectrum of gender", clearly it goes against your interests and that of your LGBT counterparts.
The Qur'an gives you the right to leave the religion, go and join the ranks of your beloved mentally ill dykes, homosexuals and transgender communities, you fit in there more than you do in here, if you plan to promote and hope that the majority of Somalis will become accepting of you Sodomites, you should also hope that a cow will one day fly over the moon.
First of all, let me address that hypothetical dialogue! LMAO, they WERE attempting to harm Lot (his guests) and they were rapists...great analogy, you really don't think things through.
That's actually not my logic. You haven't been following along, have you Zubeir? Catch up dear boy.
You still cannot find one iota of Islamic proof saying "slavery is a wrong/evil practice" or "slavery should be abolished gradually." Way to go, thanks for all that information of no value in this discussion. I'll pose the very simple question to you as well, seeing as you've avoided it completely. Is slavery halal?
Like I said, I'm not some conflicted baboon that tries to deny the reality of parts of his religion. You see, you can demonstrate, through the Quran most of all, that alcohol was gradually made haram. It is a very simple task that I've asked
any of you to replicate for slavery, but it's proving impossible. I wonder why?
Calling me a disbeliever because you can't do the research to prove me wrong? Classic.
