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Re: qabil lives matter(war dadkani waa imtixaan)
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:28 pm
by Sophisticate
Kaafiye and NobleGeeljire they will not take over Somalia, that's just scapegoating, nor will they ever absorb Somalis, hence wiping them out. Somalis in general are people concerned with tribe/lineage and they don't find them to be their cup of tea looks wise, ma gartay. With that being said, don't worry and focus on maintaining your own pedigree. That's how I see it. I don't find them attractive, hence there's no issue there. So, the question remains. Are you afraid they'll creep into your noble gene pool, if you aren't too careful.
Re: qabil lives matter(war dadkani waa imtixaan)
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:30 pm
by Kaafiye
saacJabshee wrote:Kaafiye wrote:saacJabshee wrote:Kafiiye dont forget gaalada will fight each other over enthicties and expell the "unwanted" because they dont believe its against their deen, for them it's politics or nationalism first their religious leaders will have no say. Meanwhile we muslim believe otherwise. We wont just violently make bantus flee to mozambique iyo tanzania. Integration is the only solution in this case.
If the Kurds can demand their own self-determination despite sharing a country with their fellow Muslim Turks, Iraqis, Syrians, and Persians....then why can't the Somalis?
It isn't racism. It's self-preservation. We Somalis number only about 10 million people, while the Black Africans number about 1 billion people. They outnumber us 100-1.
Integration with a group that's numerically superior to you would be suicide. You could kiss Somalinimo goodbye if we were to let that happen.
I refuse to become a minority in my own country. The Bantus already have like 25 countries of their own. Yet they wont even allow Somalis to have just ONE country for themselves. SMFH. At the very least, they could take a province for themselves and leave the rest of Somalia for the ethnic Somalis. But even THAT would be too much for those who seek to destroy the ethnic/linguistic makeup of the Somali race.
Kafiye I am saying you cant ask politely. So you either have to use violence which fundamentally we are against (haram), or you offer them a state which would be okay but it certainly wouldn't stop from out numbering us. We can counter them outnumbering us by marrying more upto 4 wives and having more children which deenta encourages anyways. But they can have 4 wives aswell lol.
Kurds want their own nation whilst turkey, iran, syria and iraq (dont know about now) try to stop them from achieving this. Somali bantus however dont stop us from anything really. So you cant use the kurdish example.
It's a serious issue.....and in 30 years you will see a Somalia that's majority-Bantu. The first step to solving a problem is to admit that you have one. And the Somalis aren't paying attention to this ticking demographic time-bomb in our midst.
Either we Somalis become self-aware of the serious situation on our hands, or we don't. But if we Somalis DO become aware of this situation, then we should propose solutions that would appeal to everyone and minimize pain. Perhaps offering financial incentives to get them to move back to Mozambique is a solution. Perhaps giving them their own province (such as Middle Shabelle) would be a solution. Either way, this situation cannot stand. And if a country like India (with over 1.2 billion people) can create and build provinces catering to different ethnic groups, then why can't the Somalis?
Re: qabil lives matter(war dadkani waa imtixaan)
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:36 pm
by Kaafiye
Sophisticate wrote:Kaafiye and NobleGeeljire they will not take over Somalia, that's just scapegoating, nor will they ever absorb Somalis, hence wiping them out. Somalis in general are people concerned with tribe/lineage and they don't find them to be their cup of tea looks wise, ma gartay. With that being said, don't worry and focus on maintaining your own pedigree. That's how I see it. I don't find them attractive, hence there's no issue there. So, the question remains. Are you afraid they'll creep into your noble gene pool, if you aren't too careful.
I used to think the same way too, but then I realized that people's memories are short and that they adapt to their surroundings and the facts on the ground. 50 years ago, it would have been unthinkable in America to have a Black person marry a White person. Nowadays, it's extremely common.
Times change, and the facts on the ground change extremely quickly.
Even a country like Sweden which is majority-Swede, is projected to have their own ethnic Swedes become a minority in the country in only 30 years. In 30 years, you will see a Sweden where the white ethnic Swedes are a minority in their own country. And the same thing could easily happen in Somalia.
I know that I personally wouldn't marry them. But what about my great grandchildren? What about the Somalis 100 years from now, who reside in a country in which they are a minority? Even if we see a future Somalia where the ethnic Somalis comprise less than 50% of the population, you don't think mass intermixing would occur?
Re: qabil lives matter(war dadkani waa imtixaan)
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:38 pm
by saacJabshee
Sophisticate wrote:Kaafiye and NobleGeeljire they will not take over Somalia, that's just scapegoating, nor will they ever absorb Somalis, hence wiping them out. Somalis in general are people concerned with tribe/lineage and they don't find them to be their cup of tea looks wise, ma gartay. With that being said, don't worry and focus on maintaining your own pedigree. That's how I see it. I don't find them attractive, hence there's no issue there. So, the question remains. Are you afraid they'll creep into your noble gene pool, if you aren't too careful.
They might not try and absorb us but the more their population increases the more they'll venture further into northen somalia when its safe to do so.
Re: qabil lives matter(war dadkani waa imtixaan)
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:41 pm
by NobleGeeljire
Re: qabil lives matter(war dadkani waa imtixaan)
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:42 pm
by saacJabshee
Noble how about this?
The only other possible idea is when finally Somaliweyn is established, we could take extra land from Kenya rather than just take whats ours. Then settle the bantus into that land (extra kenyan land) by bribing them and establishing a state for them there. Think about this carefully. This way no somali qabil will shout "dhul ba la'iga katey" and kenyan cant do nothing because what goes around comes around. Everybody is happy.
This way we get back at kenyans and bantus dont have to go all the way to mozambique and start from scratch
Re: qabil lives matter(war dadkani waa imtixaan)
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:46 pm
by NobleGeeljire
Whatever as long as They are not on somali Soil.
Tanzania k& mozambique have already offered all bantus, property, citizenship & residency.
We should send where They belong. I will not Wait for somaliweyn which might not ev happen.
We send them back now
Re: qabil lives matter(war dadkani waa imtixaan)
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:49 pm
by Kaafiye
saacJabshee wrote:The only other possible idea is when finally Somaliweyn is established, we could take extra land from Kenya rather than just take whats ours. Then settle the bantus into that land (extra kenyan land) by bribing them and establishing a state for them there. Think about this carefully. This way no somali qabil will shout "dhul ba la'iga katey" and kenyan cant do nothing because what goes around comes around. Everybody is happy.
I personally would love that solution
It'd make sure that Somalinimo is preserved while at the same time the Bantus are unharmed and that they're treated fairly. But how realistic is it?
Re: qabil lives matter(war dadkani waa imtixaan)
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:52 pm
by Sophisticate
Kaafiye wrote:Sophisticate wrote:Kaafiye and NobleGeeljire they will not take over Somalia, that's just scapegoating, nor will they ever absorb Somalis, hence wiping them out. Somalis in general are people concerned with tribe/lineage and they don't find them to be their cup of tea looks wise, ma gartay. With that being said, don't worry and focus on maintaining your own pedigree. That's how I see it. I don't find them attractive, hence there's no issue there. So, the question remains. Are you afraid they'll creep into your noble gene pool, if you aren't too careful.
I used to think the same way too, but then I realized that people's memories are short and that they adapt to their surroundings and the facts on the ground. 50 years ago, it would have been unthinkable in America to have a Black person marry a White person. Nowadays, it's extremely common.
Times change, and the facts on the ground change extremely quickly.
Even a country like Sweden which is majority-Swede, is projected to have their own ethnic Swedes become a minority in the country in only 30 years. In 30 years, you will see a Sweden where the white ethnic Swedes are a minority in their own country. And the same thing could easily happen in Somalia.
I know that I personally wouldn't marry them. But what about my great grandchildren? What about the Somalis 100 years from now, who reside in a country in which they are a minority? Even if we see a future Somalia where the ethnic Somalis comprise less than 50% of the population, you don't think mass intermixing would occur?
Bro, you can't compare us to dadka madow iyo caddaan those folks ay jecel yihiin bersonality. The ones that marry each other are normally both fool xun, and willing to put up with each other's short comings.
It's like comparing apple and oranges. You have two different cultural contexts. As it stands they fall outside of the Somali aesthethic, I don't see that changing now or anytime in the future.
I don't see a future Somalia where ethnic Somalis will become a minority. End of story.
Re: qabil lives matter(war dadkani waa imtixaan)
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:55 pm
by saacJabshee
Kaafiye wrote:saacJabshee wrote:The only other possible idea is when finally Somaliweyn is established, we could take extra land from Kenya rather than just take whats ours. Then settle the bantus into that land (extra kenyan land) by bribing them and establishing a state for them there. Think about this carefully. This way no somali qabil will shout "dhul ba la'iga katey" and kenyan cant do nothing because what goes around comes around. Everybody is happy.
I personally would love that solution
It'd make sure that Somalinimo is preserved while at the same time the Bantus are unharmed and that they're treated fairly. But how realistic is it?
It sounds realistic because yesterday our lands where taken and given to our neighbours whilst we watched helplessly. Nothing is constant. Power changes hands and lands changes ownership. It's really a matter of time I think.
Re: qabil lives matter(war dadkani waa imtixaan)
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:57 pm
by Idman702
This video made me cry. Somalis are the most fucked up, racist people on this earth. No wonder we are scattered around the world like cockroaches. These people we discriminated against and are still discriminating against, Allah swt has to be angry with us. Look at us, no country and we still think we are superior than people. We are equal in Allah swt eyes. It's time to realize that our shit smells too. We are not better than anyone. Even animals have more heart, dignity and respect than us.
Noble you should be ashamed of yourself. Spewing this hatred on the website. YOU my dear are not better than Tanzanian, Rwandian or Kenyan. The sooner you realize that the sooner you will wake from this dream. How dare you? How dare you belittle other human beings? Who the hell do you think you are?
Re: qabil lives matter(war dadkani waa imtixaan)
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:09 am
by Machiavelli2
Kaafiye iyo Noble
Ilma Adeerayaal Baantuuga walaalaheena waanu soo wadnaa ee noo diyaariya sooryada iyo meesha la dejjin lahaa. Since most of the Somali clans were originally different groups of people and established as a collective for security reasons and made into a modern clan as we know them today, within half a century, the clans in Mudug will absorb walaalaheena Bantus and they will become one of these clans.
Re: qabil lives matter(war dadkani waa imtixaan)
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:19 am
by SomaliWarSavage
Machiavelli2 wrote:Kaafiye iyo Noble
Ilma Adeerayaal Baantuuga walaalaheena waanu soo wadnaa ee noo diyaariya sooryada iyo meesha la dejjin lahaa. Since most of the Somali clans were originally different groups of people and established as a collective for security reasons and made into a modern clan as we know them today, within half a century, the clans in Mudug will absorb walaalaheena Bantus and they will become one of these clans.
hard to do when theres a physical difference between the two. we don't need to absorb them, just recognize they're a different ethnic group.
Re: qabil lives matter(war dadkani waa imtixaan)
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:23 am
by Sophisticate
Machiavelli2 wrote:Kaafiye iyo Noble
Ilma Adeerayaal Baantuuga walaalaheena waanu soo wadnaa ee noo diyaariya sooryada iyo meesha la dejjin lahaa. Since most of the Somali clans were originally different groups of people and established as a collective for security reasons and made into a modern clan as we know them today, within half a century, the clans in Mudug will absorb walaalaheena Bantus and they will become one of these clans.
Don't make their fears a reality. The Bantu boogeyman is a fallacy. It isn't a real threat but a perceived one.
Your vision of short and stalky farming folk inhabiting Mudug in numbers that rival or dwarf Somalis will not see the light of day. Whatever you do, try not to give the fellows here a heart attack. Nooblegeeljire might shoot back with an arsenal of new threads invoking even more social panic.
Re: qabil lives matter(war dadkani waa imtixaan)
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:46 am
by Machiavelli2
Sophisticate iyo Somaliwarsavage
Ilma Adeerayaal, we are obliged to help our cousins Kaafiye and Noble overcome their xenophobia. Tan labbaad, Ma aningeey iga xigaan Mudug. After few generations of inter-marriages between walaalaheena Bantu iyo walaalaheena reer Mudug, a stronger, wiser, patient, talented and hardworking offspring will emerge. They could even facilitate reer Mudug to become the best ball players, musicians and folklore dancers. Bal soo duceeya to become a reality. Aamiin.