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SteadyState wrote:

FarhanYare wrote:sahal said it well!!. I think inter-clan marriage will only fail as a result of qabileste inlaws, who were right from the bat against it, but not showed it in the beginning. As for the topic, i don't think you can compare interracial marriages to inter-clan only because interracial marriages aren't common within Somalis.

Almost all in-laws will be die hard qabilists, so this is a rather moot point. And if you think I'm making this stuff up, just see the amount of Somali fathers who will give their daughter away to some ex-con Jamaican revert who lives off the state (welfare), but would absolutely refuse his daughter marrying an educated and successful farax who's not of the same tribe as him. I'm sure you even know of cases like this yourself, but I'm sure you wouldn't want to mention them since it undermines your agenda.

Dude this isn't 2004 we're living in. This is 2015. Somali fathers nowadays would absolutely refuse to give their daughters up to some ex-con revert, especially since they've witnessed the consequences of this action. We have large amounts of Somali single mothers right now with half-Jamaican children and who are absolutely unable to marry again. You can't honestly claim on this forum that in 2015, a Somali father would prefer his daughter to marry some Ajnaabi ex-con over a Somali brother from a different clan.

And the Somalis who do have this mentality are in the extreme minority.

Kaafiye u said the truth.

I completely disagree with this notion that marriage to a Somali will fail and will work better with a non-Somali as I have been a witness. Short story Me and a Fellow friend both ended marrying Turkish German men we met in Universityand though alhmaduillah my marriage is still going, her marriage failed less than a year later. Today she is married to a Somali man and mashallah has Five children. It is not about being a Somali or a non Somali but destiny and faith. Before everyone goes apes on me, am hoping my Two Sons bring me Somali girls

Osob101 wrote:I completely disagree with this notion that marriage to a Somali will fail and will work better with a non-Somali as I have been a witness. Short story Me and a Fellow friend both ended marrying Turkish German men we met in Universityand though alhmaduillah my marriage is still going, her marriage failed less than a year later. Today she is married to a Somali man and mashallah has Five children. It is not about being a Somali or a non Somali but destiny and faith. Before everyone goes apes on me, am hoping my Two Sons bring me Somali girls

I would never guess you where married to a ajnabi. I'm chocked your husband isn't Isaaq daa'ud let alone qof aan somali baa ahayn.

I just want a Farax who can kick with hooyo can't have nin Indho quraarad leh sitting with her #totallyawkward marriage is about bringing two families together ..most people who marry ajnabis are kinda isolated..they tend to keep to themselves especially Somali females who marry ajnabi.

Warsheekh wrote: I would never guess you where married to a ajnabi. I'm chocked your husband isn't Isaaq daa'ud let alone qof aan somali baa ahayn.

Exactly. She's a real life example of what I was bringing up in this exact thread. If you read the other threads on inter-clan marriage, you'll see her completely against it because her parents would never accept a farax from a different clan (especially a "faqash" or "mooryan"). But, marrying the ajnabi turk is completely acceptable and they'd gladly pitch in for the wedding expenses.

Thank you Osob for proving my point. I have nothing against your marriage and wish you the best.

Meet Ummad Rushdi 30 year old Pakistani after meeting a young Somali girl things get hot and heavy she moves in with him and his parents. There was only one problem she had 7 month old baby named Hamza Ali from previous relationship. How did this interracial relationship end? Pakistani killed the 7 month old baby and buried his body along a roadside in Pennsylvania.

http://articles.philly.com/2013-08-09/n ... h-old-baby


Meet Ayan Osman 28 year old mother of three. While partying at home her ex-boyfriend and father of her three children Joey Sheppard, who became enraged with jealousy after walking into a late-night party at her apartment. How did this interracial relationship end? He slashed her throat.....

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/12/06/ma ... t-remember

SteadyState wrote:

Warsheekh wrote: I would never guess you where married to a ajnabi. I'm chocked your husband isn't Isaaq daa'ud let alone qof aan somali baa ahayn.

Exactly. She's a real life example of what I was bringing up in this exact thread. If you read the other threads on inter-clan marriage, you'll see her completely against it because her parents would never accept a farax from a different clan (especially a "faqash" or "mooryan"). But, marrying the ajnabi turk is completely acceptable and they'd gladly pitch in for the wedding expenses.

Thank you Osob for proving my point. I have nothing against your marriage and wish you the best.

You idiot, bring me a single sentence where I have ever said am against or my parents are against marrying a different clan background people? My own sister is married to the so called Faqash and gave birth to 5 so called Faqash also. Yes I have said am against Interracial marriage and would like Somalis to marry Somali but it's my opinion and am entitled to it. I even tell my husband how I never thought I was going to marry outside my race but God had another plan for me and it happened. Do I love my husband absolutely, would I want my children to marry Somali? Absouletly but everything is in Gods hand. Now read my lips again Somali 4 Somali

Warsheekh wrote:

Osob101 wrote:I completely disagree with this notion that marriage to a Somali will fail and will work better with a non-Somali as I have been a witness. Short story Me and a Fellow friend both ended marrying Turkish German men we met in Universityand though alhmaduillah my marriage is still going, her marriage failed less than a year later. Today she is married to a Somali man and mashallah has Five children. It is not about being a Somali or a non Somali but destiny and faith. Before everyone goes apes on me, am hoping my Two Sons bring me Somali girls

I would never guess you where married to a ajnabi. I'm chocked your husband isn't Isaaq daa'ud let alone qof aan somali baa ahayn.

Well growing up in Germany where there is hardly any Somalis to begin with in the 1990s was an experience and mashallah both my parents always said first rule bring a Muslim, Second rule bring someone you will be happy with and culturally is closer to Somali culture as in Conservative and my Husband is a Kurd Turk , he passed with flying marks and to be honest we knew each other in highscool and University, while our parents prayed Eid prayer together for over 15 years. In theory I didn't really marry a stranger.

Once u go Somali..u never go back! It doesn't rhyme but it's the truth walee

Osob101 wrote:

Warsheekh wrote:

Osob101 wrote:I completely disagree with this notion that marriage to a Somali will fail and will work better with a non-Somali as I have been a witness. Short story Me and a Fellow friend both ended marrying Turkish German men we met in Universityand though alhmaduillah my marriage is still going, her marriage failed less than a year later. Today she is married to a Somali man and mashallah has Five children. It is not about being a Somali or a non Somali but destiny and faith. Before everyone goes apes on me, am hoping my Two Sons bring me Somali girls

I would never guess you where married to a ajnabi. I'm chocked your husband isn't Isaaq daa'ud let alone qof aan somali baa ahayn.

Well growing up in Germany where there is hardly any Somalis to begin with in the 1990s was an experience and mashallah both my parents always said first rule bring a Muslim, Second rule bring someone you will be happy with and culturally is closer to Somali culture as in Conservative and my Husband is a Kurd Turk , he passed with flying marks and to be honest we knew each other in highscool and University, while our parents prayed Eid prayer together for over 15 years. In theory I didn't really marry a stranger.

MashAllah Allah ha isku kiin daayo. Horta ethnicity is not that important tbh. The important thing is that the person is a practising muslim with a good character. Besides i thought you lived in somalia how's that working out for you? Did your husband come along?

Osob101 wrote: You idiot, bring me a single sentence where I have ever said am against or my parents are against marrying a different clan background people? My own sister is married to the so called Faqash and gave birth to 5 so called Faqash also.

Here:

Osob101 wrote: Somali's and Somalia are not the place you grew up in my dear Anarchist. I use to be an Idealist such as urself but things have changed. My parents have never bluntly told me to avoid any Tribe but have given me hints as to what they approve of and what they don't. Avoiding Drama and conflict with my family will always outweigh love or that bullshit in my book andif that means to avoid all Clans other than my own than so be it. It is much easier for boys than for girls.

I can't find the exact thread where you mention "faqash" and "moryaans" by name just yet, but the clear statements of the above post and its implications should be sufficient evidence for my post. From what I gather, you sound pretty unstable and even crazy from your posts. You probably scared of all of the Isaac guys who were your prospects, which is why you had to resort to marrying the only acceptable alternative to your family: an ajnabi. As for your sister, it's pretty clear that your family has likely disowned her completely or are actively conspiring to dissolve the marriage. I've seen this story play out so many times in the real world. Families disowning their sons or daughters for marrying an upstanding Somali from a different clan, while completely supporting their sons or daughters married to some loser ajnabi living off of the state.

The only way inter-clan marriages can work in the Diaspora is if both the couples are completely westernized and give their families the boot for good so that they could never meddle and attempt to destroy the marriage. Otherwise, the harsh truth is that Somali families are a million times more supportive of their offspring being married to an ajnabi (and its the bottom of the barrel ajnabis most end up with) as compared to a successful and professional Somali from a different clan. That's all thanks to the cuqdad from the civil war.

SteadyState wrote:

Osob101 wrote: You idiot, bring me a single sentence where I have ever said am against or my parents are against marrying a different clan background people? My own sister is married to the so called Faqash and gave birth to 5 so called Faqash also.

Here:

Osob101 wrote: Somali's and Somalia are not the place you grew up in my dear Anarchist. I use to be an Idealist such as urself but things have changed. My parents have never bluntly told me to avoid any Tribe but have given me hints as to what they approve of and what they don't. Avoiding Drama and conflict with my family will always outweigh love or that bullshit in my book andif that means to avoid all Clans other than my own than so be it. It is much easier for boys than for girls.

I can't find the exact thread where you mention "faqash" and "moryaans" by name just yet, but the clear statements of the above post and its implications should be sufficient evidence for my post. From what I gather, you sound pretty unstable and even crazy from your posts. You probably scared of all of the Isaac guys who were your prospects, which is why you had to resort to marrying the only acceptable alternative to your family: an ajnabi. As for your sister, it's pretty clear that your family has likely disowned her completely or are actively conspiring to dissolve the marriage. I've seen this story play out so many times in the real world. Families disowning their sons or daughters for marrying an upstanding Somali from a different clan, while completely supporting their sons or daughters married to some loser ajnabi living off of the state.

The only way inter-clan marriages can work in the Diaspora is if both the couples are completely westernized and give their families the boot for good so that they could never meddle and attempt to destroy the marriage. Otherwise, the harsh truth is that Somali families are a million times more supportive of their offspring being married to an ajnabi (and its the bottom of the barrel ajnabis most end up with) as compared to a successful and professional Somali from a different clan. That's all thanks to the cuqdad from the civil war.

Osob has disqualified herself from this interesting discussion

"my parents have never told me to avoid any Clan" isn't that exactly what I said in here and I dare you bring me anyone who will never try to please their my family. Again bring me an ounce of evidence where I ever said everyone should marry in their clan as you accused me off?

Bacbuudkow arooye cuqdad Ayaa qabtaa haaa iicuniine Yur mataqaan, kulahaa you scared away the Isaaq men

COOL-MAN

Quick to judgement I see. I suggest you go read what lead to what I said in the thread. I have never ever told anyone in my family circle or friends to marry a certain clan or not but am also realistic and would advise if it was my sibling or friend if that will be loosing their family.

If me marrying who am married to today would have caused me my mother and father approval and than I would have never married who I did point blank.