Heated discussion about who can get somali citizenpship[video]

[CaliQase]

Rasuulka SCW mar uu Ansaar (Reer Madiina) la hadlayay wuxuu weydiiyay in ay ku dhex jiraan cid aan Ansaar ahayn, waxaa loo sheegay inuu ku jiro wiil abti loo yahay, wuxuu ku yiri wiilka gabadhu wuxuu ka mid yahay qowmka.

Wiilka gabadha Soomaaliyeed ay dhashay wuu naga mid yahay.

Where is the hadith?

Only those who were born out of wedlock can be given their mums' names but not their mums' tribes.

P.S. The title should be changed.

باب ابن أخت القوم ومولى القوم منهم
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حدثنا سليمان بن حرب حدثنا شعبة عن قتادة عن أنس رضي الله عنه قال دعا النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم الأنصار فقال هل فيكم أحد من غيركم قالوا لا إلا ابن أخت لنا فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم ابن أخت القوم منهم

http://library.islamweb.net/newlibrary/ ... 52&ID=2094

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

So because of one hadith, you would want to change Somalia's immigration policy. A hadith that, for all you know, you may have misinterpreted?

This is why Soomaalida aan la yaabaa.

[JamalAddow]

Fuck Isaaq the British Bitch and the French booty clappers.

Only Darod, Hawiye, Southern Dir, Rahanweyne and Bantus are Somalis.

"Jews, Blacks, Dirty Waqooyi, they're all f-king Arabs to me".


On a serious note tho, we shouldn't give citizenship to any half castes, specially the ones with the Somali fathers, they're basically Ajnabi, they know nothing of Somalis.

[CaliQase]

So because of one hadith, you would want to change Somalia's immigration policy. A hadith that, for all you know, you may have misinterpreted?

This is why Soomaalida aan la yaabaa.

How many Xadiiths would it take for you to change your mind?

BTW what is there to misunderstood in that xadiith? The Prophet says the son of the sister is part of the community. I think that is clear enough for me.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Firstly, you already misinterpreted it by assuming that it applies to the case of a Somali with a Somali mother but foreign father. Also the guy in the Hadith is arab on both sides. He isn't half arab.

Secondly, you are not a scholar, muhaddith or Faqiih, so your opinion and interpretation on islam law is irrelevant.

Thirdly, even if you are right, why should we change our immigration policy to suit a hadith? Does Saudi Arabia? Does Morocco? Somalia has a low population. Any immgration policy change that makes it easier for foreigners to get citizenship would be a potential demographic catastrophe.

[Leftist]

Rasuulka SCW mar uu Ansaar (Reer Madiina) la hadlayay wuxuu weydiiyay in ay ku dhex jiraan cid aan Ansaar ahayn, waxaa loo sheegay inuu ku jiro wiil abti loo yahay, wuxuu ku yiri wiilka gabadhu wuxuu ka mid yahay qowmka.

Wiilka gabadha Soomaaliyeed ay dhashay wuu naga mid yahay.

Case closed

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The irony of those wanting to limit Somali citizenship as they parade the world with not just one or two citizenship, but often times 3 and 4. "aahaway, waxaan wataa baasaboor Jarmal, Dutch, Kanadeese, ee Ingriis"

Kuwaan xenophobia lafaha ka gashay: Donald Trump maa wax nii galay, oo isku caqli tihiin? He wants to uproot & forcibly deport 11 million human beings.....you would do the same to all of the minorities("indigenous" or otherwise) who call Somalia home. No shame, no xishood: foolxumo qaawan lee.

[CaliQase]

Firstly, you already misinterpreted it by assuming that it applies to the case of a Somali with a Somali mother but foreign father. Also the guy in the Hadith is arab on both sides. He isn't half arab.

Secondly, you are not a scholar, muhaddith or Faqiih, so your opinion and interpretation on islam law is irrelevant.

Thirdly, even if you are right, why should we change our immigration policy to suit a hadith? Does Saudi Arabia? Does Morocco?

Are you kidding me? Now you have to compare what Saudis and Moroccans do for you to accept your own religion terms?

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

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The irony of those wanting to limit Somali citizenship as they parade the world with not just one or two citizenship, but often times 3 and 4. "aahaway, waxaan wataa baasaboor Jarmal, Dutch, Kanadeese, ee Ingriis"

Kuwaan xenophobia lafaha ka gashay: Donald Trump maa wax nii galay, oo isku caqli tihiin? He wants to uproot & forcibly deport 11 million human beings.....you would do the same to all of the minorities("indigenous" or otherwise) who call Somalia home. No shame, no xishood: foolxumo qaawan lee.

America is literally a huge country with a massive population of over 300 million people. It is also the richest and most powerful nation on earth. Somalia's situation is in no way comparable. FFS, use a bit of common sense.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Firstly, you already misinterpreted it by assuming that it applies to the case of a Somali with a Somali mother but foreign father. Also the guy in the Hadith is arab on both sides. He isn't half arab.

Secondly, you are not a scholar, muhaddith or Faqiih, so your opinion and interpretation on islam law is irrelevant.

Thirdly, even if you are right, why should we change our immigration policy to suit a hadith? Does Saudi Arabia? Does Morocco?

Are you kidding me? Now you have to compare what Saudis and Moroccans do for you to accept your own religion terms?

First address my two points.

My third point was to highlight that every nation, including muslim ones, follow their own immigration policy. Must muslim and arab nation are very strict on immigration. Somalia should follow suit and have a strict one for it's own benefit.

[Thuganomics]

Didn't MSB hand out Somali citizenship by the truckload to Eritrean freedom fighters in the 70s horta.Somali citizenship and Somali ethnicity are two different things

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Didn't MSB hand out Somali citizenship by the truckload to Eritrean freedom fighters in the 70s horta.Somali citizenship and Somali ethnicity are two different things

MSB did a lot retarded things. Meles Zenawi also studied in Mogadishu.

[CaliQase]

Firstly, you already misinterpreted it by assuming that it applies to the case of a Somali with a Somali mother but foreign father. Also the guy in the Hadith is arab on both sides. He isn't half arab.

Secondly, you are not a scholar, muhaddith or Faqiih, so your opinion and interpretation on islam law is irrelevant.

Thirdly, even if you are right, why should we change our immigration policy to suit a hadith? Does Saudi Arabia? Does Morocco?

Are you kidding me? Now you have to compare what Saudis and Moroccans do for you to accept your own religion terms?

First address my two points.

My third point was to highlight that every nation, including muslim ones, follow their own immigration policy. Must muslim and arab nation are very strict on immigration. Somalia should follow suit and have a strict one for it's own benefit.

How on earth did you know what his father was? the Xadith only mentions his mother is Ansaar!

Me being an scholar? No, are you?

Who cares what Arabs think or do? Do you?

[TheLoFather]

Liquidhydragen, why you care so much about Somali citizenship, I though you claimed being Somalilander and that you have nothing to do with Somalia?!!
Does Somaliland have a different criteria for citizenship?

[COOL-MAN]

Somali citizenship and Somali ethnicity are two different things

[mahoka]

Fuck Isaaq the British Bitch and the French booty clappers.

Only Darod, Hawiye, Southern Dir, Rahanweyne and Bantus are Somalis.

"Jews, Blacks, Dirty Waqooyi, they're all f-king Arabs to me".


On a serious note tho, we shouldn't give citizenship to any half castes, specially the ones with the Somali fathers, they're basically Ajnabi, they know nothing of Somalis.

Darod Italian, british, Ethiopian, kenyan booty spreaders. You had so many pimps and sugar daddies