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Re: The Hawd Region.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:21 am
by NomadicSoul1
Gaashaamo for Hawd region capital.

Re: The Hawd Region.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:15 am
by sanguinne
what are all the clans that live in the hawd?

Re: The Hawd Region.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:31 am
by NomadicSoul1
Garxajis arap Ogaden Dhulbahante and other smaller clans

Re: The Hawd Region.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:49 am
by Jugjugwacwac
sanguinne wrote:what are all the clans that live in the hawd?
Ciidagale, Habar Yoonis, Habar Jeclo, Dhulbahante, Ogaadeen, Mareexaan, Majeerteen, Gaadsan (Dir) and other smaller clans. According to people here Arap being part of the Hawd clans is debatable.

Re: The Hawd Region.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:07 am
by MarsinQorahay
Jugjugwacwac wrote:
sanguinne wrote:what are all the clans that live in the hawd?
Ciidagale, Habar Yoonis, Habar Jeclo (in smaller numbers), Ogaadeen, Mareexaan, Majeerteen, Gaadsan (Dir) and other smaller clans. According to people here Arap being part of the Hawd clans is debatable.
Where in hawd does mareexan live?

Re: The Hawd Region.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:07 am
by Jugjugwacwac
MarsinQorahay wrote:
Jugjugwacwac wrote:
sanguinne wrote:what are all the clans that live in the hawd?
Ciidagale, Habar Yoonis, Habar Jeclo (in smaller numbers), Ogaadeen, Mareexaan, Majeerteen, Gaadsan (Dir) and other smaller clans. According to people here Arap being part of the Hawd clans is debatable.
Where in hawd does mareexan live?
Wardheer area.

Re: The Hawd Region.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:08 am
by skywalker25
Jugjugwacwac wrote:
sanguinne wrote:what are all the clans that live in the hawd?
Ciidagale, Habar Yoonis, Habar Jeclo (in smaller numbers), Ogaadeen, Mareexaan, Majeerteen, Gaadsan (Dir) and other smaller clans. According to people here Arap being part of the Hawd clans is debatable.
I dont know why you put "small numbers" next to Habar Jeclo when solomadow, Reer Daahir, Black Aden, Yesef, Cibran, all settle in the Hawd. Compare this to a single Majerteen subtribe or Marexaan which is odd, not to mention leaving out Dhulbahnte who have are divided beteen reer nugaal and reer hawd, your list is incorrect...

Re: The Hawd Region.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:10 am
by Jugjugwacwac
skywalker25 wrote:
I dont know why you put "small numbers" next to Habar Jeclo when solomadow, Reer Daahir, Black Aden, Yesef, Cibran, all settle in the Hawd. Compare this to a single Majerteen subtribe or Marexaan which is odd, not to mention leaving out Dhulbahnte who have are divided beteen reer nugaal and reer hawd, your list is incorrect...
I removed the "small numbers" next to beesha Habar Jeclo. And as for Dhulbahante I thought I included them, thanks for pointing it out.

Re: The Hawd Region.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:12 am
by MarsinQorahay
Jugjug, wardheer is settled by makahiil ogs and mjs, mareexan do not settle in hawd but south of shilaabo and the ethio border with galgaduud.

Re: The Hawd Region.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:14 am
by Jugjugwacwac
MarsinQorahay wrote:Jugjug, wardheer is settled by makahiil ogs and mjs, mareexan do not settle in hawd but south of shilaabo and the ethio border with galgaduud.
Look at these links http://qaawane.net/2015/06/deg-deg-daga ... -wardheer/

http://www.afdheer.com/index.php?option ... Itemid=133

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=274056

Re: The Hawd Region.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:18 am
by MarsinQorahay
Jugjugwacwac wrote:
MarsinQorahay wrote:Jugjug, wardheer is settled by makahiil ogs and mjs, mareexan do not settle in hawd but south of shilaabo and the ethio border with galgaduud.
Look at this http://qaawane.net/2015/06/deg-deg-daga ... -wardheer/
Where does it say that they settle there? It says that 2 ilkoyars has been killed in wardheer and the clashes in galgaduud and kilil border.

Re: The Hawd Region.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:21 am
by skywalker25
Image

Re: The Hawd Region.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:22 am
by Jugjugwacwac
This is what it says "Wararka ka imanaya Magaalada Wardheer ayaa sheegay in uu saaka dagaal cusub ka bilowday Qabaleega Qurduf oo ka tirsan Degmada Wardheer. Degaalkaas cusub oo u dhexeeya ciidanka Liyuuga iyo beesha Mareexaan, ayaa waxay wararku sheegayaan in ciidanka Liyuugu ay laba nin oo beeshaas ka tirsan ay halkaas ku dileen"

If the Mareexaan didn't settle there how did beesha mareexaan and liyuu police get into clashes? That's not logical. I'm not Mareexaan saxiib so I have no dog in this fight, but why r u denying reality? Everyone knows that Wardheer is a unique area in the hawd,where the Habar Yoonis, Dhulbahante, Ogaadeen, Majeerteen and Mareexaan all meet. I know MJ and OG are the majority there, but waa lala degaa.

Re: The Hawd Region.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:25 am
by hangool79
skywalker25 wrote:
Jugjugwacwac wrote:
sanguinne wrote:what are all the clans that live in the hawd?
Ciidagale, Habar Yoonis, Habar Jeclo (in smaller numbers), Ogaadeen, Mareexaan, Majeerteen, Gaadsan (Dir) and other smaller clans. According to people here Arap being part of the Hawd clans is debatable.
I dont know why you put "small numbers" next to Habar Jeclo when solomadow, Reer Daahir, Black Aden, Yesef, Cibran, all settle in the Hawd. Compare this to a single Majerteen subtribe or Marexaan which is odd, not to mention leaving out Dhulbahnte who have are divided beteen reer nugaal and reer hawd, your list is incorrect...

sxb no need to argue about everything, HJ is large clan no doubt, could largest within SL and has definately largest territory again within SL.
But this is Hawd you can't be serious and compare yourself to Ogaaden, Habar Yoonis, Ciidagale, Sacad Muuse, Majeerten, Marexaan, Dhulos etc
I would say 90 % of HJ live within SL, those clans you mentioned are all border straddlers, with exception of a eastern portion of Gaashaamo you don't really live in Ethiopia.

Re: The Hawd Region.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:26 am
by Jugjugwacwac
skywalker25 wrote:Image
Thanks for the map, as it proves my point about the Mareexaan, but it's inaccurate as it underestimates the territory of the Isaaq and possibly some of the other clans shown, and overestimate the territory of others.