Burning elderly and orphans in Lower Shabelle: the thugs from central Somalia have hit a new low

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BlueBlood wrote:
barbarossa wrote:
BlueBlood wrote:AUN :sadcam:



Mida kale is this news confirmed? I dont trust somali media...they spread lies to fuel hatred and manipulate pple and play with our emotions..why burn and not shoot? :wtf: This will fuel an everlasting enmity.

Ps stop ur sweeping generalizations..not all hawiye commited this crime.
Rabi ha cadaabo kuwii geestay falkan foosha xun :pacspit:
According to the same trusted Somali media, the victims were first shot( execution style)inside their home, and then, they were dragged outside and set ablaze.
But why? I dont understand why any sane person will do that..forget islaanimo,somalinimo or bina aadinimo...animals wont do that xataa.
Were the murderers caught? they should face the same fate
That is because the guy who did that is not sane to begin with; I'm told he is a Jareer with a militia of about/almost 80 men. To my surprise even AS is looking for the guy.

He also killed both men and cattle from Xawaadle not that long ago!


It is just Dhabacyo (and to some degree Isaaqs) who are circulating the idea that HG did this, even though the innocents were murdered deep in Biimaal territory.
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AirBitaale wrote: That is because the guy who did that is not sane to begin with; I'm told he is a Jareer with a militia of about/almost 80 men. To my surprise even AS is looking for the guy.

He also killed both men and cattle from Xawaadle not that long ago!


It is just Dhabacyo (and to some degree Isaaqs) who are circulating the idea that HG did this, even though the innocents were murdered deep in Biimaal territory.
Why is he killing women and children? do jareer live in shalanbood? i saw shalanbood long time..i thought it was somali deegaan and when did jareer armed themselves? ma amisom baa hubeeysay jareerta?

niyahow aniga i dont trust the somali media now...pple use the media as a form of weapon to attack their opponents..that is why i was asking for verification.
imo it doesnt matter the background of the murderers but i was shocked by the burning thing...and as usual snet FKD crew used this tragic event to score some cheapshots against hawiye marka dont mind them.

Again AUN the ayeeyo and her grandkids
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No body in Somalia (Maybe with the exception of the place where the incident happened) can know what happened for sure, let alone welfare-fed kids in Minneapolis's section 8 housing!

AUN to the murdered innocents.
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AirBitaale wrote:
BlueBlood wrote: But why? I dont understand why any sane person will do that..forget islaanimo,somalinimo or bina aadinimo...animals wont do that xataa.
Were the murderers caught? they should face the same fate
That is because the guy who did that is not sane to begin with; I'm told he is a Jareer with a militia of about/almost 80 men. To my surprise even AS is looking for the guy.

He also killed both men and cattle from Xawaadle not that long ago!


It is just Dhabacyo (and to some degree Isaaqs) who are circulating the idea that HG did this, even though the innocents were murdered deep in Biimaal territory.
GTFO with your bullshit, you accuse the MJ and Isaaq with circulating propaganda whilst you do the same.

The Bantu guy that you are blaming for this act does not even operate in Degmada Marka. His name is Sheekh Salax and operates in the Qoryoley area against the Hawiye militias.
In Lower Shabelle, for example, the Monitoring Group continues to investigate individual
responsibility for a series of attacks on civilians in Qoryoley district, in particular on the villages
of Buulo Sheikh, Hadoman and Farhano in early January, February and March 2015. Conducted by a combination of SNA personnel (with SNA assets), clan militia and elements of Al-Shabaab, the attacks demonstrate the complexity of alliances and cross cutting interests emerging between Somalia’s conflict parties at the local level. The violations unfolded against
the backdrop of an ongoing conflict between the Salaax militia and Hawiye (primarily Haber
Gedir, but also Hawadle and Murosade) militia in the area and the broader conflict with AlShabaab.
The Salaax militia are a defensive militia created by the Bantu community and led by a
Bantu Digil-Mirifle/Dube, Shiekh Salaax
Page 228 http://www.hiiraan.com/pdf_files/2015/UN/N1528750.pdf

This attack took place between Golweyn and Shalambood. It is a reprisal attack in response to recent Biimaal operations that resulted in the death of Moryans that were squatting on illegally obtained farmland and the destruction of farm machinery. There is no conflict between the Sheekh Salax militia and Biimaal, they do not even border each other and both share the same enemy.

The Biimaals know very well who did this and no amount of spin can tarnish the truth.
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biyamaal were deported from ethiopia by amxaaro and we gave them lands,they are guests and are behaving badly! in fact cant do anything,they will see the errs of their ways,lets ee if isaaq can do anything to support them,war hooy dadka yaan been loo sheegin.
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blood wrote:biyamaal were deported from ethiopia by amxaaro and we gave them lands,they are guests and are behaving badly! in fact cant do anything,they will see the errs of their ways,lets ee if isaaq can do anything to support them,war hooy dadka yaan been loo sheegin.
Did you welcome them before or after you laid on your back for the Italians?
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Lol Hutus are at it again blaming everyone else for their disgusting culture of looting, killing and canabalism. Every true Somali including true hawyie such as abagaal should unite to finally kill of that disgusting jareer spawn that is hg
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You dont know the history,marka was hawiye city 600 years ago and still remains the same,biyamaal poured after amharo expelled them and they were welcome,i dont care if they cant live peacefully or dont accept reconcialtion,we dont accept instability in the region.bussinessmen who are funding this tragedy must be investigated.
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Snailland12 wrote:Lol Hutus are at it again blaming everyone else for their disgusting culture of looting, killing and canabalism. Every true Somali including true hawyie such as abagaal should unite to finally kill of that disgusting jareer spawn that is hg
:mrgreen: look at this snake,when did abgaal and hg clash,that was 25 years ago,we are doing bussiness and enjoying peace and stability,anti-stability groups and pro-anarchy will be dealt with swiftly including the minority biyamaal.
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Lol, abgaal deep down know it's the filthy mooryan that is keeping them back. In truth hag epically sacad, are not even really hawyie but are Yemeni and jareer rape products, I personally share no hatred against the proud noble abagaal clan but every true Somali knows the enemy is those disgusting hag scum apes. You can defend out of hawiyenimo, but deep deep know even they know scum when see one. Hutu is also only used for ugly hag
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The women and orphans were AS anarchists somaha? Doofaar Maa Daahiro!
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zumaale wrote:
AirBitaale wrote:
BlueBlood wrote: But why? I dont understand why any sane person will do that..forget islaanimo,somalinimo or bina aadinimo...animals wont do that xataa.
Were the murderers caught? they should face the same fate
That is because the guy who did that is not sane to begin with; I'm told he is a Jareer with a militia of about/almost 80 men. To my surprise even AS is looking for the guy.

He also killed both men and cattle from Xawaadle not that long ago!


It is just Dhabacyo (and to some degree Isaaqs) who are circulating the idea that HG did this, even though the innocents were murdered deep in Biimaal territory.
GTFO with your bullshit, you accuse the MJ and Isaaq with circulating propaganda whilst you do the same.

The Bantu guy that you are blaming for this act does not even operate in Degmada Marka. His name is Sheekh Salax and operates in the Qoryoley area against the Hawiye militias.
In Lower Shabelle, for example, the Monitoring Group continues to investigate individual
responsibility for a series of attacks on civilians in Qoryoley district, in particular on the villages
of Buulo Sheikh, Hadoman and Farhano in early January, February and March 2015. Conducted by a combination of SNA personnel (with SNA assets), clan militia and elements of Al-Shabaab, the attacks demonstrate the complexity of alliances and cross cutting interests emerging between Somalia’s conflict parties at the local level. The violations unfolded against
the backdrop of an ongoing conflict between the Salaax militia and Hawiye (primarily Haber
Gedir, but also Hawadle and Murosade) militia in the area and the broader conflict with AlShabaab.
The Salaax militia are a defensive militia created by the Bantu community and led by a
Bantu Digil-Mirifle/Dube, Shiekh Salaax
Page 228 http://www.hiiraan.com/pdf_files/2015/UN/N1528750.pdf

This attack took place between Golweyn and Shalambood. It is a reprisal attack in response to recent Biimaal operations that resulted in the death of Moryans that were squatting on illegally obtained farmland and the destruction of farm machinery. There is no conflict between the Sheekh Salax militia and Biimaal, they do not even border each other and both share the same enemy.

The Biimaals know very well who did this and no amount of spin can tarnish the truth.
I was also told he holds the title "Sheekh". lol

Anyway, Zumaale, say what you want but I won't slander Dir in general and Biimaal specifically; waa dad sharaf leh. Ragna waligiis waa is dagaali jiray.

Now that you confirmed that the guy exists, I'll say what I have to say without slandering Biimaal.


First of all, Marka and Qoryooley are not that far from each other; people travel much more than that distance for the purpose of murdering innocents (Aano).

Second of all, the incident just happened. No body knows who did this. No one! Were the innocents even buried?

Without investigation of any kind, you unilaterally decided it was HG! That alone discredits your claim.

And by the way, everyone is pushing their propoganda. I'm doing it, you are doing, everyone is doing it. Dambi aad adigu faraha kula jirto ayaad dad ku eedeenaysaa.
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khat addict zumaale
i did not say that,the tragedy happens everywhere,how many children/kids perished in alshabab orchestrated suicide attacks on restaurents,mosques and other public areas?? yet,no body cries just because they are hawiye! but when local clans clash with eachother some are ready to jump on the gun,hg might have done something terrible but that doesnt mean we should politicize every tragedy,every ruler wil have enemies deep down ,just looka t HSM it is part of nature and life will continue.!beside,this has nothing to do with hg and investigation is going on,haka hor dhicin.
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AirBitaale wrote: I was also told he holds the title "Sheekh". lol

Anyway, Zumaale, say what you want but I won't slander Dir in general and Biimaal specifically; waa dad sharaf leh. Ragna waligiis waa is dagaali jiray.

Now that you confirmed that the guy exists, I'll say what I have to say without slandering Biimaal.


First of all, Marka and Qoryooley are not that far from each other; people travel much more than that distance for the purpose of murdering innocents (Aano).

Second of all, the incident just happened. No body knows who did this. No one! Were the innocents even buried?

Without investigation of any kind, you unilaterally decided it was HG! That alone discredits your claim.

And by the way, everyone is pushing their propoganda. I'm doing it, you are doing, everyone is doing it. Dambi aad adigu faraha kula jirto ayaad dad ku eedeenaysaa.
Only one group of people have made Biimaal land and blood Xalal. They do not have Aaano with anyone else and I did not unilaterally declare they were HG, this killing is linked to the ongoing conflict between them and the Mooryaans. That is an undeniable fact and the Biimaal themselves have confirmed this.

Secondly, I do not do propaganda. I knew about this killing and did not even start a thread nor did I post about other things that have happened in the last fortnight in Degmada Marka. I just simply called you out for lying about Sheikh Salax.

Lastly, if you have a conscience, you will admit the truth that Biimaal are not fighting in Guriceel, Cadaado, Wisili or Dhusamareeb but in their native Deegan. Can you say the same for the Mooryaans that followed Aideed South and decided to wage a war of Dulmi against the unarmed people of Lower Shabelle? The same ones that claim to have Deegan in Degmada Marka when everyone knows that they do not even one tuulo but mostly squat on farms that were obtained via Xaran means.
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So, in your conclusion, nobody but HG have the means and the capabilities of doing a tragedy like this one?

Also, yes. I'll be honest with you; I'm not an expert on how Qabiils share deegaans, but I do believe that HG have deegaan in Shabeelle Hoose. Point blank!

I have one very simple question for you, Zumaaale; who linked it to the skirmishes between the two clans?

One more thing: Can anything one of two parties, who are at conflict with each other, claim be taken for a fact?
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