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Re: Why don't Somalis give blood or donate organs etc.?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:41 pm
by waayeel101
Susu000 wrote:It's illegal in Islam. And it's not disputable

No, it's not. it's 100% halal sure about it and but under some conditions.

Re: Why don't Somalis give blood or donate organs etc.?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:42 pm
by X.Playa
Blood is never a novelty organs is a whole different story.

Re: Why don't Somalis give blood or donate organs etc.?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:43 pm
by JSL3000
I'll give blood to someone who needs it but I would only donate my organs to my family members that's it that's my choice though.

Re: Why don't Somalis give blood or donate organs etc.?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:44 pm
by lifeisbloodyhard
GubanOgoHawdJSL wrote:
lifeisbloodyhard wrote:
GubanOgoHawdJSL wrote: Nah he is right and you right too, you can donate blood to muslim or non muslim as long as it don't harm your life and it is necessity for other person.

FGM is not Islamic tradition is pharoah ancient tradition.
Ahh that's one type I think? Type 3? Do your research. The scholars say type 3 is haram but the 'lesser' types are okay.
I don't know the three types but the one you removed everything is haram because damages the person permanently difficulty urinating, blood loss and deformed and prelong surffering and messes up it so many ways.
Dude they say the other types are halal despite the 'do no harm' principle. Get it??

Re: Why don't Somalis give blood or donate organs etc.?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:45 pm
by X.Playa
waayeel101 wrote:
Susu000 wrote:It's illegal in Islam. And it's not disputable

No, it's not. it's 100% halal sure about it and but under some conditions.


Muslims can make anything xalaal of they want too, if eating lizards, locus and hyeans, is xalaal because Mohammed ate it, am sure we can expand the xalaal business to porkchops and beacon and organs.

Re: Why don't Somalis give blood or donate organs etc.?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:46 pm
by lifeisbloodyhard
Walahi I didn't expect this to turn into a debate haha. Just to clarify my position: i'm saying it's halal but not obligatory.

Re: Why don't Somalis give blood or donate organs etc.?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:46 pm
by JSL3000
lifeisbloodyhard wrote:
GubanOgoHawdJSL wrote:
lifeisbloodyhard wrote:
FGM is not Islamic tradition is pharoah ancient tradition.
Ahh that's one type I think? Type 3? Do your research. The scholars say type 3 is haram but the 'lesser' types are okay.
I don't know the three types but the one you removed everything is haram because damages the person permanently difficulty urinating, blood loss and deformed and prelong surffering and messes up it so many ways.
Dude they say the other types are halal despite the 'do no harm' principle. Get it??[/quote] makes sense I like suna anyways.

Re: Why don't Somalis give blood or donate organs etc.?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:47 pm
by JSL3000
lifeisbloodyhard wrote:Walahi I didn't expect this to turn into a debate haha. Just to clarify my position: i'm saying it's halal but not obligatory.
:up:

Re: Why don't Somalis give blood or donate organs etc.?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:49 pm
by JSL3000
Something halal can become haram but something haram can't become halal.

Re: Why don't Somalis give blood or donate organs etc.?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:58 pm
by JSL3000
I'm brain dead today had long night last night.

Re: Why don't Somalis give blood or donate organs etc.?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:29 pm
by FarhanYare
Nope. But am happy to donate blood.

Re: Why don't Somalis give blood or donate organs etc.?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:37 pm
by waayeel101
X.Playa wrote:
waayeel101 wrote:
Susu000 wrote:It's illegal in Islam. And it's not disputable

No, it's not. it's 100% halal sure about it and but under some conditions.


Muslims can make anything xalaal of they want too, if eating lizards, locus and hyeans, is xalaal because Mohammed ate it, am sure we can expand the xalaal business to porkchops and beacon and organs.

duqa let's make a deal.
sidad u daysay diinta islamka, arrimohadana u daa!

Re: Why don't Somalis give blood or donate organs etc.?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:58 pm
by Machiavelli2
You don't need a sheikh who doesn't live in the Western world tell you what is halal or haram through his own reasoning. Some say, living in "Darul Kufur" is haram. Others say, taking welfare from non Muslims is haram. Islam is a religion based on logic and there are 10,000 different views and opinions about our modern issues that we face today in our technological advancing world. Blood and organ donations are such new phenomenon we have to navigate and deal with it. When you or a loved one, for example a child, husband or wife requires a blood transfusion or an organ donation, will you receive any donation, or ask the doctors that you will only receive a Muslim's blood or organs and nothing else? Should blood and organs kept in hospitals be segregated according to one's religion? Not every family member that requires an organ donation will get a compatible organ from a close relative even if they are willing to donate to h/her. What hospitals do today, is gather a cluster of relatives of different patients waiting for donors and who are willing to donate organs to them. They swap these organs according to compatibility among the different recipients. Organ donation as a barter system.

Re: Why don't Somalis give blood or donate organs etc.?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:04 pm
by lifeisbloodyhard
Machiavelli2 wrote:You don't need a sheikh who doesn't live in the Western world tell you what is halal or haram through his own reasoning. Some say, living in "Darul Kufur" is haram. Others say, taking welfare from non Muslims is haram. Islam is a religion based on logic and there are 10,000 different views and opinions about our modern issues that we face today in our technological advancing world. Blood and organ donations are such new phenomenon we have to navigate and deal with it. When you or a loved one, for example a child, husband or wife requires a blood transfusion or an organ donation, will you receive any donation, or ask the doctors that you will only receive a Muslim's blood or organs and nothing else? Should blood and organs kept in hospitals be segregated according to one's religion? Not every family member that requires an organ donation will get a compatible organ from a close relative even if they are willing to donate to h/her. What hospitals do today, is gather a cluster of relatives of different patients waiting for donors and who are willing to donate organs to them. They swap these organs according to compatibility among the different recipients. Organ donation as a barter system.

That's what i'm bloody tryna say. They are basically saying Islam doesn't make sense cos what they are saying doesn't make sense. Thank you!

Re: Why don't Somalis give blood or donate organs etc.?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:15 pm
by Machiavelli2
lifeisbloodyhard

Ina Adeer

You have to understand that as a newly diaspora society, we have developed a mentality of entitlement. We want to be provided with everything, but are willing to contribute in return very few or nothing, An attitude of give me your heart and blood, but I won't give you my finger nail. Waa sidaas ina adeer.