25 cents meher for a Xijaabi religious somali woman for a whiteman and 25k meher for a somali man.

[Raganimo]

I disagree tho lol alot of beautiful and successful somali women from all age groups marry non somalis men, for different reasons and the age factory is not one of them since most girls /women perfer older guys in general. Some somali guys and girls dont have the chance to meet a somali spouse because they live in a city or a country with no other somalis. And sometimes people just fall in love with another human being. As long as they are muslim, I dont see the problem.

"As long as he is Muslim" has become codeword for "as long as he is foreign".

There are some Somali girls who explicitly seek out foreign men and publicly degrade Somali men. There are plenty of them online and they are very vocal about their hate for Somali men.

They perpetuate negative stereotypes and paint all Somali men with the same brush, yet they have the most idealistic image of white/Arab/etc men..

These women are despised not because of "jealousy" (it's not like we can marry all of them anyway so I don't know how jealousy even comes into it), but because they show absolutely no loyalty to the community and will severely cheapen themselves to get with ajnabis. Then these same dhoocilo will turn around and get mad when they realise that the reputation of Somali women has been ruined.

Some Salafi ex-con revert comes along and hits her with the "ukteeee" and this chick is immediately sold.

But like I said, in the end it all falls back on the fathers. Many of these girls have daddy issues and despise all Somali men because of that.

[Raganimo]

I've learned a long time ago to only concern myself with my own family. These chicks will flip on you if you try to advise them. God didn't make me the guardian of all Somali women. If one is intent on cheapening herself, who am I to get in her way?

[grandpakhalif]

Why is Somali such an ugly language?What the heck is bikro jabiyey?

[Jabuutawi]

Too many butt-hurt, calaacal-filled Faraxs who are far removed from reality in this thread. Wax isku fala and get your sorry behinds away from coffee shops and do something with your lives.

Truth be told, most of these women who fall for excons and reverts are unpleasant to the eye . Faraxs are not missing anything . However, advice I would give guys are get an education, a steady job, professional network profile akin to Linkedin and a Halimo of any persuasion won't be far behind.

Or, you can go back to badiye and get yourself an 18 year old with breasts straight like SAMS ready to be launched on your face

[Advo]

I am divided on this topic.

On one hand, I don't mind xaliimos marrying out and being happy with who ever they chose to be. However on the hand, I can't stand the insecure ones whose whole purpose is to get lighskin kids with hazel eyes smh. Insecure xaliimos don't give a damm about the reputation of other xaliimos, every ajnabi starts to think they're all easy! They would never have that opinion about Pakistani girls who fear their parents and ish.

[FarhanYare]

Not all of them end up with the rejects of ajnabis (am talking about team ajnabi). Some are educated and have successful careers, but maybe couldn't find a farax who've reached similar heights.

[JSL3000]

Too many butt-hurt, calaacal-filled Faraxs who are far removed from reality in this thread. Wax isku fala and get your sorry behinds away from coffee shops and do something with your lives.

Truth be told, most of these women who fall for excons and reverts are unpleasant to the eye . Faraxs are not missing anything . However, advice I would give guys are get an education, a steady job, professional network profile akin to Linkedin and a Halimo of any persuasion won't be far behind.

Or, you can go back to badiye and get yourself an 18 year old with breasts straight like SAMS ready to be launched on your face

This dude is crazy.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

I am divided on this topic.

On one hand, I don't mind xaliimos marrying out and being happy with who ever they chose to be. However on the hand, I can't stand the insecure ones whose whole purpose is to get lighskin kids with hazel eyes smh. Insecure xaliimos don't give a damm about the reputation of other xaliimos, every ajnabi starts to think they're all easy! They would never have that opinion about Pakistani girls who fear their parents and ish.

This. I couldn't really give a ish about who xalimos marry, every man and woman ilaahey ba qof u qorey. But this pathetic, cheap routine of "as long as he's muslim" which is just code for "I have low standards" needs to stop. They are ruining the Somali name by association. Not to mention, once they get with the ajnabi they can't keep their mouths from constanly insulting Somali men. The same goes for Somali guys who behave this disgraceful manner.

Asians iyo carabtu dumarkoodu waa like dahab to them. We need to start behaving like that too. The fault mostly lies with the parents.

[Raganimo]

I am divided on this topic.

On one hand, I don't mind xaliimos marrying out and being happy with who ever they chose to be. However on the hand, I can't stand the insecure ones whose whole purpose is to get lighskin kids with hazel eyes smh. Insecure xaliimos don't give a damm about the reputation of other xaliimos, every ajnabi starts to think they're all easy! They would never have that opinion about Pakistani girls who fear their parents and ish.

That's exactly what I'm saying bro. I don't mind interracial relationships per sè, as long they are done for the right reasons.

Somali girls who thirst after ajnabis bring shame on all of us.

[Raganimo]

The flip side of the coin is that many Somali men are a bunch of effeminates who engage in useless activities. We need to revive our culture of manhood. We need to shame the losers who spend all day gossiping and calaacal'ing instead of taking care of their family and providing guidance and leadership as they should. Then these niggas wonder why Somali women don't desire to marry these losers. Why should they?

This qurbo life got many of us messed up. I know for a fact that there are many educated, beautiful, successful Somali sisters who live in areas with very few eligible Somali bachelors. We can't expect these women to relocate or to import some Faarax from another country.

This is why I say that I'm not totally against interracial relationships. I have people in my own family who are married to ajnabis and they seem to be quite happy.

This ajnabi-jacayl phenomenon that I'm referring to is a totally different animal though and it's primarily rooted in self-hate.

[pinkfriday]

I disagree tho lol alot of beautiful and successful somali women from all age groups marry non somalis men, for different reasons and the age factory is not one of them since most girls /women perfer older guys in general. Some somali guys and girls dont have the chance to meet a somali spouse because they live in a city or a country with no other somalis. And sometimes people just fall in love with another human being. As long as they are muslim, I dont see the problem.

"As long as he is Muslim" has become codeword for "as long as he is foreign".



There are some Somali girls who explicitly seek out foreign men and publicly degrade Somali men. There are plenty of them online and they are very vocal about their hate for Somali men.

They perpetuate negative stereotypes and paint all Somali men with the same brush, yet they have the most idealistic image of white/Arab/etc men..

These women are despised not because of "jealousy" (it's not like we can marry all of them anyway so I don't know how jealousy even comes into it), but because they show absolutely no loyalty to the community and will severely cheapen themselves to get with ajnabis. Then these same dhoocilo will turn around and get mad when they realise that the reputation of Somali women has been ruined.

Some Salafi ex-con revert comes along and hits her with the "ukteeee" and this chick is immediately sold.

But like I said, in the end it all falls back on the fathers. Many of these girls have daddy issues and despise all Somali men because of that.

I disagree with the daddy issue part. Alot of girls who decide to marry "out" come from great families. Its hard to "come out" to your family, its really tough to tell your parents you're not marrying a somali and to see the disappointed look on their face, it can be really hurtful to see the ones you love the most not being happy for you. But you should always listen to your heart. You cant deny the heart what it wants. Those who truly love you, like your parents and brothers/sisters will accept the person eventually, they just need time. When you meet non somalis more than you meet somalis people in your every day life, marrying out may seem like your only option.

And there are way more women in this world than men so its impossible that all somali women marry a fellow somali man.

In my experience Ive never seen or heard of somali girls who "degrade" somali men because they are married to a non somali. Usually they are the ones who are degraded because of their choice to marry someone from a different ethnicity. I think somali people need to be more openminded and stop assuming things when they dont know the whole story.

[pinkfriday]

Speaking of meher, Im against girls who demand redicilious amount of $$$ for meher. Men are not walking bank accounts, dont marry spoiled little brats if you dont want any expensive meher. Most religious girls/women are reasonable when it comes to these stuff. To be honest 25k is not that much in pounds tho. Anyways meher is between a girl and her husband, if shes happy with 25 cents or whatever, its her business (although i dont believe this sheikh is truthful).

[MayDay777]

Boring topic

[Raganimo]

Pink

You're deliberately ignoring the core issue here. We're not talking about relationships that grow organically and naturally such as the scenerios that you've described. I'm all for those. In the end, it's all qadar.

What's being addressed is a specific phenomenon of ajnabi-jacayl where ajnabi men are put on a pedestal and seen as superior to Somalis. This is a reality, whether you choose to bury your head in the sand or not.

There are actual women out there who specifically seek out ajnabi men (through mosques, online dating/matrimonial asite etc), some even go to the extreme of stating that they do not want to even consider marrying a Somali man. Wallahi this peculiar phenomenon is very real. Some will place certain conditions on the Somali that they would not place upon the ajnabi, which the sheikhs story illustrates. We've seen it happen in real life walaal.

I privately know such women plus they're all over the internet. They are the first to register on matrimonial sites and specifically state that they do not want Somalis. They want everything under the sun BUT a Somali. How is this anything other than an extreme form of self hate??

I've seen them on public ajnabi forums, negatively stereotyping us while simultaneously glorifying ajnabi men like they're sent from heaven. They do this in front of ajnabis.

If you're not even willing to acknowledge that this is real, then there is nothing to discuss here I'm afraid.

[Raganimo]

Also, please reflect on how pathetic the phrase "as long as he is Muslim" sounds! Really? That's it? That's a pretty low standard!

You know why most Arabs, including their scholars, don't marry their women to foreigners? Because they recognize the importance of cultural/social compatibility. It's something which is acknowledged in Fiqh and referred to as "kafa'ah". When a parent requests that you bring home a Somali, they actually have a right to make that request.

What do you mean "as long as he is Muslim"? As if Somalis aren't Muslim! Are your parents telling you to bring home a Somali mushrik??? Between two Muslims, the Somali should always be the preferable option since you share the same cultural background (all things being equal).

This is a very simple concept which all other Muslim groups understand except for the ajnabi-jacayl Somalis.