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So wait, some of you are supporting the Amhara because you think they are more Isaaq-friendly? :damn:
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Raganimo wrote:So wait, some of you are supporting the Amhara because you think they are more Isaaq-friendly? :damn:
:damn: :mindblown:
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AwRastaale wrote:Gondar ruled Ethiopia for the majority of the 2000 years of Agew/Amhara dynasties along with its adjacent sister-region Wollo/Lasta. As the descendants of the Zagwe dynasty all the way to the Fasilides dynasty before the throne was stolen from them by the British secret agent of Tigray (Kassa Mercha). Kassa, later Emperor Yohannes IV, was himself appointed as the ruler/governor of Tigray by an Agew conqueror after he overran Tigray.

They are always hungry for rule and their throne as the historical rulers of Ethiopia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weRE2ctkmJM

Oromo need to take notes from them. I'm hearing the TPLF is gunning down Oromo youth left, right and center but they are too afraid to even fire single bullet in Gonder because of the Gonderi unity. TPLF only manipulates and finds individuals to use against their own people.

Gonder is even openly flying their preferred flag without the TPLF star and blue circle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0cFIOfwzzw

This massive uprising is not only Amhara but at the very center of it all are the Agew warriors. The Agews naturally break into several groups including Bilen (mostly in Eritrea), Kamyr/Himra (Wollo/Sekota/Wag/Lasta) and the Qemant/Kemant (Gonder especially the Tigrai looted Wolkait and Gondar city itself).

You can hear them shout Amhara and Qemant in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj74761HZLk
Ha isku madhaan. IDGF until we get Hawd back.

Anyway, is the current ruling political in Ethiopia weakening? If so, we need to prepare for the liberation of Hawd.
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balwarama wrote:who care which Xabashi rules Ethiopia? All I care about is will the disintegration happen soon, so that we could be free of their bad smell! Stupid somalis debating which one is gud to rule Ethiopia thru their clannish prism SMH
Horta soomaaalidu biryahan waxay bilaabeen inaay itoobiya isku amaanaan. Kaaga darantii, itoobiyadan la sheegaaayo kumaan kunoo somaali ah ayeey leeysay laga bilaabo 2007kii oo keliya. Wallee qabyaaaladu waa cudur, Darood/Isaaq naceeb darteed ayaa itoobiya laysku adeegsnayaa.

Anigu waxyaabo badan ayaan kaaga aragti duwanahay (hadaan soo qadno tusaale ahaan gooni isutaaga Somailand) laakin marki sheekado tahay cadowtinimada itoobiya u hayso dadka soomaaliyeed 100% waan ku racsanahay.
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Advo wrote:
GubanOgoHawdJSL wrote:The tigray muslims in eritrea count too but that's a different story.

So yall really prefer an amharic ruled ethiopia. :lol:
Don't drink the Amhara koolaide they're offering :lol:

Their motivated by tribal politics thinking Tigray are anti Issaq smh

Tigray regime is the lesser evil for Somali people anyways, the Amhara even banned Islamic prayer when they ruled the Ogaden region. Now that Ethiopia is divided into ethnic states , it's a blessing in disguise.
:up: guban don't listen to awarast and khalid, in these matters their perception is crooked. Tigray favors federalism and decentralised rulership for all ethnicities (yes they are pretty bad, but there are worse outh there). trust me you do not want the numerous amharas to come back in power, they will not stop untill all of somalia is under them. Not to mention most of them have never accepted Eritrean independence.
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TheGrumpyGeeljire wrote:
balwarama wrote:who care which Xabashi rules Ethiopia? All I care about is will the disintegration happen soon, so that we could be free of their bad smell! Stupid somalis debating which one is gud to rule Ethiopia thru their clannish prism SMH
Horta soomaaalidu biryahan waxay bilaabeen inaay itoobiya isku amaanaan. Kaaga darantii, itoobiyadan la sheegaaayo kumaan kunoo somaali ah ayeey leeysay laga bilaabo 2007kii oo keliya. Wallee qabyaaaladu waa cudur, Darood/Isaaq naceeb darteed ayaa itoobiya laysku adeegsnayaa.

Anigu waxyaabo badan ayaan kaaga aragti duwanahay (hadaan soo qadno tusaale ahaan gooni isutaaga Somailand) laakin marki sheekado tahay cadowtinimada itoobiya u hayso dadka soomaaliyeed 100% waan ku racsanahay.

in 2007 the legendary Meles zenawi invaded Mogadishu destroyed and eradicated the ICU He murdered allot of Hawiye not all Somalis he was enemy only to the HAWIYE particulary the HG the MJs SUPPORTED the invasion and so did Abgaal now after meles was gone HSM showered meles zenawi with allot of love that he was indeed a great african leader his own words so Haiwye have forgiven the TPLF So what is the big deal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uV1BYqN7PU

listen here to HSM how he shares the great memories of Meles legessa Zenawi the son of tigray
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Khalid, Melez Zenawi was a big-time war criminal. Aren't Hawiye fellow Somalis? Why are you siding with Ethioipia, an Ethiopia that would annnex Somaliland if it had a chance.

The murder of thousands of our Somali brothers and sisters, women, children and old men were orchestrated by Meles Zenawi. He ordered the 2007 crack down on the Ogaden region and had hundreds of villages razed to the ground and their inhabitants murdered.

Khalidow inadeer, Ethiopia is not our ally. They are playing nice and waiting for the right opportunity to strike.

Ethiopia is the true enemy of ALL SOMALIS. Regardless of political, tribal and geographical differences.
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Hangool the Amharas have one face the Tigrays have Million faces they entertain our enemies because it suits their interest but the Amharas keep their word. Even in Ethiopia if they come to power they will jail Ileey and dissolve the Ethnic make up of Ethiopia which is better for Isaaq in the Hawd we would share a state the old states of Ethiopia Hararghe even the old province of Hararghe suits Isaaq better it would be a state for Isaaq Ciise some Oromo and reer isaaq ogaden the Ogadens would be divided into into the bale and sidamo province they would share a state with the oromos and sidamos. this would be more equal this would give more time to develop also our land free of clan politics Isaaq would form alliance with Ciise and Karayu Oromo and the Afran qallows. And last but not least Ethiopian forces national forces would patrol the borders with all countries not rag tag clan militia high on Qat who want to score clan points. the Amharas would bury the ethnic nationalism nonsense which for the most part served the darood interest a Haile selassie like leader should emerge and preach at Qarbi dhahar like he did in 1956 and that would be the future. Somaliland would be the gate way for Ethiopia to the sea it would boost our economy


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPdy5Q4pKD8
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TheGrumpyGeeljire wrote:Khalid, Melez Zenawi was a big-time war criminal. Aren't Hawiye fellow Somalis? Why are you siding with Ethioipia, an Ethiopia that would annnex Somaliland if it had a chance.

The murder of thousands of our Somali brothers and sisters, women, children and old men were orchestrated by Meles Zenawi. He ordered the 2007 crack down on the Ogaden region and had hundreds of villages razed to the ground and their inhabitants murdered.

Khalidow inadeer, Ethiopia is not our ally. They are playing nice and waiting for the right opportunity to strike.

Ethiopia is the true enemy of ALL SOMALIS. Regardless of political, tribal and geographical differences.
But how come their president have forgiven The Ethiopian attrocities why should we feel bad when their own president considers meles the greatest leader of our times his own words not gacanyare words
nonsense dont believe in fear mongering Ethiopia has never ever dishonered Somaliland nor our interest in the regions they do their own things for their own reasons even the TPLF i dont like them i dont think they are a good government i am not a fan of them not at all but they are working for their own interest i dont blame them we should do that to. Ethiopia we will deal with Ethiopia the way it deals with us so far so good other than than the wars in hawd and i do blame ethiopa for not holding their dogs on a leash but i am sure it would have never happened if amhara was in power. our main enemy is Somalia we need to deal with the dead corpse that is Somalia who hates our development xita waxay no quudhi wayeen kenyan yidhi Somaliland hala aqoonsadu read this
Somalia furious at Raila's call for Somaliland independence
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Tuesday August 2, 2016
Gamal Mohamed Hassan- Ambassador of the Federal Republic of Somalia when he was received by President Uhuru Kenyatta at State House in August 2015. /PSCU
Gamal Mohamed Hassan- Ambassador of the Federal Republic of Somalia when he was received by President Uhuru Kenyatta at State House in August 2015. /PSCU
Somalia has reacted angrily to Cord leader Raila Odinga's remarks that the international community recognises Somaliland as an independent state.

Ambassador Gamal Hassan termed Raila's comment as irresponsible and damaging the country's territorial integrity.

Raila reportedly said at Chatham House, London where he delivered a speech, that he supports the full recognition of the break-away semi-autonomous state.

"I am a strong supporter of the full recognition of Somaliland. I think there is a very strong case," he said said during a question and answer session at the forum.

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But Amb Hassan dismissed Raila and said: "That comment was in a bad taste. It questions the territorial integrity of Somalia,"

"Politics of Somalia should be left to Somalis. Politicians should refrain from such issues," Hassan said.

In a different response posted on Twitter, the embassy in Kenya termed the comment by Raila as “damaging”.

"Unity, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Somalia is inviolable," the embassy said.

Somaliland whose capital is Hargeisa is not internationally recognised as an independent state but mainly referred to as semi-autonomous.
It declared independence from the larger Mogadishu-based Somalia in 1991, following the collapse of the government led by Siad Bare.

But it has not been recognised internationally yet.

Raila's comment comes a week after the chair of council of governors, Peter Munya called for “some recognition” of Somaliland.

He spoke after he led a Kenyan delegation to Hargeisa in a bid to convince leaders to remove restrictions on Miraa trade.

"In my deliberations with top government officials, I managed to convince the government to appoint a technical committee to review the duty in exchange of some form of recognition of the Republic of Somaliland by the Kenyan government," Munya, who is also the governor of Meru, said.
Munya said that the miraa market in Somaliland is worth about Sh40 billion
- See more at: http://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2016/Aug/1 ... loCpL.dpuf

If ethiopia fucks them it is not our problem we should look the other way they dont care for us why should we care for them
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Khalid Ali wrote:
in 2007 the legendary Meles zenawi invaded Mogadishu destroyed and eradicated the ICU He murdered allot of Hawiye not all Somalis he was enemy only to the HAWIYE particulary the HG the MJs SUPPORTED the invasion and so did Abgaal now after meles was gone HSM showered meles zenawi with allot of love that he was indeed a great african leader his own words so Haiwye have forgiven the TPLF So what is the big deal

listen here to HSM how he shares the great memories of Meles legessa Zenawi the son of tigray
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkk

"Abgaal supported Ethiopia" kulaha

I'm going to let the Mudulood nation karbaash you.

Where's warsheekh?
Warsheekh wrote:.
If only yalaxoow was here aswell. He was fierce UIC supporter.





Abgaal and HG are bros, we have never fought nor will we ever fight alongside Ajanbi against each other.

:ufdup: keep Hawiye out of your filthy mouth


All sane Somalis, apart from the Dhabayaco, supported ICU.



As Hawiye, we are fiercely anti gumeysi. After all we are the people who made the Somali nation.


We welcome Xabashi with hot bullets.

https://youtu.be/xHb6Idc9WGI


Mashallah
Ilaahay baa Mahad leh
:blessed:

We chased the raw meat eating Xabashi out of the country along with their Dhabayaco lackeys.
https://youtu.be/5_IIoFaDl_s
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TheGrumpyGeeljire wrote:Khalid, Melez Zenawi was a big-time war criminal. Aren't Hawiye fellow Somalis? Why are you siding with Ethioipia, an Ethiopia that would annnex Somaliland if it had a chance.

The murder of thousands of our Somali brothers and sisters, women, children and old men were orchestrated by Meles Zenawi. He ordered the 2007 crack down on the Ogaden region and had hundreds of villages razed to the ground and their inhabitants murdered.

Khalidow inadeer, Ethiopia is not our ally. They are playing nice and waiting for the right opportunity to strike.

Ethiopia is the true enemy of ALL SOMALIS. Regardless of political, tribal and geographical differences.
Don't listen to the oromo half breed

We welcome all Xabashi with hot bullets.

Tigray, amxaaro, Oromo, gambela I don't give af.

I wipe the floor with them.
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saaxib who was geedi who was nuur cade who was salaad cali jeele manay abgaal ahayn? abgaal were against HG and wanted to destroy HG political might and they succeeded. Today HG are not relevant in politics any more HG lost lower shabelle it lost lower jubba its now cornered in galguduud and baraxlay al ur warlords are dead or on the run the last one died cismaan caatoi would not be surpised if abgaal Alshabab cell blew up the sacad hotel in Xamar belonging to that millionaire i forgot his name his hotel and the owner got killed.
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Khalid Ali wrote:
TheGrumpyGeeljire wrote:Khalid, Melez Zenawi was a big-time war criminal. Aren't Hawiye fellow Somalis? Why are you siding with Ethioipia, an Ethiopia that would annnex Somaliland if it had a chance.

The murder of thousands of our Somali brothers and sisters, women, children and old men were orchestrated by Meles Zenawi. He ordered the 2007 crack down on the Ogaden region and had hundreds of villages razed to the ground and their inhabitants murdered.

Khalidow inadeer, Ethiopia is not our ally. They are playing nice and waiting for the right opportunity to strike.

Ethiopia is the true enemy of ALL SOMALIS. Regardless of political, tribal and geographical differences.
But how come their president have forgiven The Ethiopian attrocities why should we feel bad when their own president considers meles the greatest leader of our times his own words not gacanyare words
nonsense dont believe in fear mongering Ethiopia has never ever dishonered Somaliland nor our interest in the regions they do their own things for their own reasons even the TPLF i dont like them i dont think they are a good government i am not a fan of them not at all but they are working for their own interest i dont blame them we should do that to. Ethiopia we will deal with Ethiopia the way it deals with us so far so good other than than the wars in hawd and i do blame ethiopa for not holding their dogs on a leash but i am sure it would have never happened if amhara was in power. our main enemy is Somalia we need to deal with the dead corpse that is Somalia who hates our development xita waxay no quudhi wayeen kenyan yidhi Somaliland hala aqoonsadu read this
Somalia furious at Raila's call for Somaliland independence
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Tuesday August 2, 2016
Gamal Mohamed Hassan- Ambassador of the Federal Republic of Somalia when he was received by President Uhuru Kenyatta at State House in August 2015. /PSCU
Gamal Mohamed Hassan- Ambassador of the Federal Republic of Somalia when he was received by President Uhuru Kenyatta at State House in August 2015. /PSCU
Somalia has reacted angrily to Cord leader Raila Odinga's remarks that the international community recognises Somaliland as an independent state.

Ambassador Gamal Hassan termed Raila's comment as irresponsible and damaging the country's territorial integrity.

Raila reportedly said at Chatham House, London where he delivered a speech, that he supports the full recognition of the break-away semi-autonomous state.

"I am a strong supporter of the full recognition of Somaliland. I think there is a very strong case," he said said during a question and answer session at the forum.

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But Amb Hassan dismissed Raila and said: "That comment was in a bad taste. It questions the territorial integrity of Somalia,"

"Politics of Somalia should be left to Somalis. Politicians should refrain from such issues," Hassan said.

In a different response posted on Twitter, the embassy in Kenya termed the comment by Raila as “damaging”.

"Unity, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Somalia is inviolable," the embassy said.

Somaliland whose capital is Hargeisa is not internationally recognised as an independent state but mainly referred to as semi-autonomous.
It declared independence from the larger Mogadishu-based Somalia in 1991, following the collapse of the government led by Siad Bare.

But it has not been recognised internationally yet.

Raila's comment comes a week after the chair of council of governors, Peter Munya called for “some recognition” of Somaliland.

He spoke after he led a Kenyan delegation to Hargeisa in a bid to convince leaders to remove restrictions on Miraa trade.

"In my deliberations with top government officials, I managed to convince the government to appoint a technical committee to review the duty in exchange of some form of recognition of the Republic of Somaliland by the Kenyan government," Munya, who is also the governor of Meru, said.
Munya said that the miraa market in Somaliland is worth about Sh40 billion
- See more at: http://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2016/Aug/1 ... loCpL.dpuf

If ethiopia fucks them it is not our problem we should look the other way they dont care for us why should we care for them
I'm not against having business agreements and trade with Ethiopia however I'm vehemently opposed to the idea we should regard Ethiopia closer to us than other Somalis. True, a significant chunk of Somalis might hate Somaliland and want it to fail but they are powerless to do so. Ethiopia on the other hand has the potential to annex us when they finish culturally assimilating Somalis in K5 (yet another tragedy but no one can deny this process has started, a good example is the patriotic 'Dhaanto' videos that has brainwashed many of our Cagdheer neighbours).

If Somaliland doesn't focus on developing its economy and doesn't begin mass-industrialisation to create jobs for the hundreds of thousands of people without employment AND if Somaliland doesn't solve the khat crisis, I guarantee you we will be annexed by Ethiopia.

SL is the last bastion of Somalinimo. All around us, Somalis are failing miserably. It is up to us to save the Somali race because we are the only one that are truly posses political sovereignty and the ideal economic environment for rapid growth.

We can start by not wishing bad luck to our Somali neighbours. They are like children that need to be guided (and occasionally beaten) for their own good.
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I hear ur points walaal and i understand ur concern really Ethiopia so far the TPLF even has never ever shown any prospect or interest or wanting to annex and invade this fear tactic is used by Ethno walanweyn nationalists really but its fake TPLF gave land that belonged to ethiopia to sudan the TPLF has allot of difficulties governing Ethiopia and u are telling me it wants to invade and annex they would have done that with the animalistic savage Hawiyes but hey didnt because there was no interest. I do believe that we should not believe Ethiopia just because they Ethiopia but since we have good agreements with them we should continue this path , but always remain vigilant the TPLF dhaantotranced the Ogadens but there was no way it wanted the culturally assimilate the Somalis. It didnt want that the TPLF is against the very idea that Ethiopia has a dominant culture. My point is and my strategy is we should work and strangle and make sure that Somalia remains weak and forgotten and we should use what ever in our might to do so we shall deal with Ethiopia on our terms when the time is right but priority first our main objective is to make sure that Meyd called Somalia la ina dabo wada inaynu iska jarno oo aynu eeyda siino that is the aim. this is the best strategy we cannot be nice guy they want our downfall wa caadi dhib ma leh we dont care but we take the right measurements against them waliga yaan lugu weecin inaaadeer
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Khalid Ali wrote:I hear ur points walaal and i understand ur concern really Ethiopia so far the TPLF even has never ever shown any prospect or interest or wanting to annex and invade this fear tactic is used by Ethno walanweyn nationalists really but its fake TPLF gave land that belonged to ethiopia to sudan the TPLF has allot of difficulties governing Ethiopia and u are telling me it wants to invade and annex they would have done that with the animalistic savage Hawiyes but hey didnt because there was no interest. I do believe that we should not believe Ethiopia just because they Ethiopia but since we have good agreements with them we should continue this path , but always remain vigilant the TPLF dhaantotranced the Ogadens but there was no way it wanted the culturally assimilate the Somalis. It didnt want that the TPLF is against the very idea that Ethiopia has a dominant culture. My point is and my strategy is we should work and strangle and make sure that Somalia remains weak and forgotten and we should use what ever in our might to do so we shall deal with Ethiopia on our terms when the time is right but priority first our main objective is to make sure that Meyd called Somalia la ina dabo wada inaynu iska jarno oo aynu eeyda siino that is the aim. this is the best strategy we cannot be nice guy they want our downfall wa caadi dhib ma leh we dont care but we take the right measurements against them waliga yaan lugu weecin inaaadeer
Here is what I want Somaliland to aim for:


We are the last Somalis who are unaffected by foreign interference, we must fight tooth and nail to make sure the Somalis do not become history. We must industrialise Somaliland. We must build libraries and make our universities the best in engineering, healthcare, economy and manufacturing.

Somaliland must have a revolution against Khat, Qabyaalad and Musuqmaasuq. We should strive to be fully self-sufficient, from food to military equipment. When we are ready, we need to strike and liberate Hawd. Then develop Hawd. Then Djibouti. Then Puntland. Then the rest of Somali inhabited East Africa.

Somalis need to be feared again. We must bring back our historical reputation as the savages that burnt and pillaged the Bantus of Kenya and the Habesha/Oromo of Abysinnia... (I think this is the Solomadow beast in me that makes me want this :) )

Anyway, Somaliland is the heart of Somalinimo. The last hope.

Somailand can be like the Ottoman empire, only more powerful.

I agree we must make sure that the clown government in Xamar is unable to take any action against us. But apart from that, there is no need for us to interfere in Somalia.
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