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Re: 200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball Videobook By Eric Dubay

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grandpakhalif wrote: Smooth what about the solar system and beyond? Did they lie to us about Jupiter being a ball of gas or Venus being a virtual office oven? We know these planets on our solar system exist because they are mentioned in the Quran. But what about beyond our solar system. NASA always claims to have discovered a new "earth styled planet"
No planet is mentioned in the Quran at all, the story of Yusuf which I think you may allude to, the translation to planet is false and no difference to the modernist translation of "ostrich" egg in the verse in Surah Naziat.

Yusuf dream was simply seeing eleven stars and the sun and the moon prostrating, you can check great tasfeer lectures by both Nouman Ali khan, Yasir Qadhi and even Omar Suleiman, or go through Ibn Katheer, Sayyid Qutub in the shade of the quran for English, none of them refer to it as planet.

To answer your question, all scientist before these masonic demonic evolutionist, spinning ball earth heliocentric's arrived on to the scene, had known those objects as "wondering stars" what people had been falsely taught were planets, the Northern star (polaris) is fixed all other stars move around it whom all move around the earth in a Geocentric model.

If you take out a telescope as I regularly do, you see no difference whatsoever, they are just bright lights, resembling lamps just as Allah described in Surah Mulk "And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps"

All this stuff about going to the moon, Hubble telescope are all hoax even if you use their own measurements, you see these supposed objects like Hubble satellites usually in the exosphere or thermosphere , the temperature of the latter is 1700 Degrees Celsius, it can't even survive there, every image you see whether it's satellite or from Hubble are all CGI (computer generated images), they even admit to this.

They will give you all these flimsy technical garbage explanations which only further refutes their entire argument, like how the twin tower is able to collapse in a pancake like motion through a plane hit, how building 7 which no plane hit, was able to magically collapse etc. all things that we all know is BS.
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smooth wrote: No planet is mentioned in the Quran at all, the story of Yusuf which I think you may allude to, the translation to planet is false and no difference to the modernist translation of "ostrich" egg in the verse in Surah Naziat.
Have not bothered reading the rest but this is factually just incorrect.

The word used for planets in the verse is كوكب

A direct translation of that word is planet.
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smooth wrote: No planet is mentioned in the Quran at all, the story of Yusuf which I think you may allude to, the translation to planet is false and no difference to the modernist translation of "ostrich" egg in the verse in Surah Naziat.
Have not bothered reading the rest but this is factually just incorrect.

The word used for planets in the verse is كوكب

A direct translation of that word is planet.
Pay attention to the underlying, this is the classical Arabic lexicon side by side today's use, pretty much all the major classical grammarian's with the most famous like Mahmud al-Alusi in his brilliant book "Ruh al-Ma`ani" or Fakhr al-Din al-Razi in his Tafsir al Kabir translated it as star, as was understood by all the Arabs.

Keep in mind Razi rejected geocentric-ism and believed in multiverse delving into Kalaam, even he with Mutazili leanings may Allah grant him the highest place in Paradise, did not translate it as such, you are really grappling with straws here, do not try to use theology arguments here because you will be crushed.


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Here is my challenge to you, bring me a single verse in the Quran that talks about the Earth orbiting or even moving, I will bring you countless of both the moon and the supposed stationary Sun orbiting.

Yasin Ayah 40
It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day: Each (just) swims along in (its own) orbit


Ar Rahman Ayah 4
The sun and the moon follow courses (exactly) computed;
And the Firmament has He raised high, and He has set up the Balance (of Justice),
It is He Who has spread out the earth for (His) creatures


Zumar Ayah 5
He created the heavens and the Earth with truth. He wraps the night around the day and wraps the day around the night, and has made the Sun and Moon subservient, each one running for a specified term



Just ponder on those very few verses right from the top of my head and there are many more, I suggest you stick to the quasi masonic lame scientific attempts, because whichever way you lean I will crush the indoctrination out of you.

It's ironic how you reject the masonic Darwinian evolution bull crap but accept the same masonic Coprinicus heliocentric ball earth myth, a guy whose whole lineage consisted of free masons and it's openly admitted, he is far worse then the racist Darwin

It's ironic your willing to not believe in the fake moon landing or 9/11 being directed from Tora Bora, but your willing to believe in a far more bizarre lunatic endless spinning ball earth planet among an infinite universe with spetillion other planets, going against everything your senses tell you, from the same sources that brought you 9/11 and the Appolo hoaxes.

Why believe in one and discount the other? The dumbest person in this world, is the one that doesn't even realize he is dumb, in fact they thinks they are smart, because of a few indoctrinated lessons he/she received at school without even grasping the concepts taught, you don't even know 1% of the information of what you believe in, or the several different supposedly 1000-100000mph your spinning around in multiple directions.

Be grateful you are a Muslim and wasn't indoctrinated with Buddhism/Hinduism or Zoroastrianism from a young age, because with your lack of critical thinking, dogma regurgitating, falsehood leanings, it's highly unlikely you would ever come out of that Kufur unless Allah made you.

You remind me of the famous words of a Somali elder, whom said "Alhamdulilah Allah has made us Muslims, because we are so stubborn, none of us would have converted" this is why no nation has a higher percentage rate of Muslims per population then Somali's.
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So you believe the earth looks like this

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You cant be serious.
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Ozaki wrote:So you believe the earth looks like this

You cant be serious.
You extrapolate a lot for someone with such dogmatic indoctrination from masonic establishment, I bet you if I was face to face with you, you wouldn't even know 1% of heliocentric ball earth myth beyond it's mere shape, yet you defend it so gallantly, stick to the topic and answer just these two questions for me.

1) Physics of Water is that it always maintain its level, if I poured a billion gallon it will flow in all direction until it finds it's lowest level and remains their flat, now how is this possible on a oblate spheroid or the latest pear shaped model according to Neil De Grasse Tyson to have oceans at all? show me a curving body of water? all rivers flow into the sea, it's why it's called "sea level".

2) Show me any kind of Curvature, were ever you are, the horizon rises to your eye level, if you went to school you would know that based on the supposed circumference of the earth @25000 that's roughly 7.935 inches to the mile varying inversely as the square of the distance

I have posted a video at almost 110000 feet not using any fish eye lenses that make things appear concave like the GoPro Camera's, were is the curve? why can I see many great monuments as far out as 100 miles ? while according to the maths it should fall below the horizon by several miles.

Let me return your ridiculous question, so you believe that you are tilting, wobbling, spinning at these lunatic speeds as taught by those Apollo Hoax fraudsters that have changed drastically over the last few decades? r

-1000mph Earth spin on its Axis
-107000km/hr the speed the Earth travels to go around the Sun
-43000mph is the speed both the Earth and Sun are moving towards Star Vega in Contellation of Lyra
-483000mph the speed at which our entire milky way moves on a supposed collision course.


Really?? Talk about having a ridiculous leap of faith, were in your senses or motions do you see or feel this? do you know how sensitive the human body is to motion? before you try to argue gravity hoax, remember it's supposedly so powerful it's keeping the moon @250.000miles away large then a size of continent orbiting the earth

Yet birds fly and we can jump without any issues but an object millions time greater it's dragging into orbit, don't come to me with the selective garbage masonic gravity bull crap before I slap you with the laws of density that account for the ridiculous apple falling from the tree crap you been indoctrinated.

Gravity and relatively are the two things invented to explain away the in-explainable aspects of the heliocentric ball earth myth, both are false constructs necessary for this model work and have never been proven in any experiment. The same way dinosaur and transitional fossils are required for evolution to work, but both have never been proven to exist, yet you believe in the first and reject the other, what a hypocrite you are.
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Not a single proponent of the heliocentric ball earth myth or even a person that understands 5% of the masonic model taught through mass indoctrination is able to defend it on here.

How truly pathetic to believe in something that not only goes against your senses, perception and what you see, but also your theology and even scientific relational like water curving around a oblate spheroid when simple demonstrable physics tell you it always finds it's lowest level and maintains it.

How even more pathetic to not believe in evolution but believe in spinning ball earth myth brought to you by the same sources, not believe in 9/11, not believe in the moon landing, but believe NASA CGI images from space brought about by the same people.

The dumbest people walking on this planet are those that actually think they are "smart" and 'ahead', their responses are default "you are crazy" "there is a scientific consensus" (despite them ignoring consensus on evolution), when you ask them why they believe in it and challenge the indoctrination, they don't even understand 5% of the spinning ball earth myth, or even the phases of the moon.

This beyond being dumb or retarded, because a retarded person doesn't have these delusions of granduer, it's even worse then insanity as that is a form of illness you can clearly tell, I cannot find a word to describe such gullible hypocritical people.
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A jobless hutu with ample time and access to the internet would definitely believe the earth is flat.

It is not the least bit surprising :)
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SAD day for science.!

The 200 Proofs didnt actually provide a single proof.. saying things isn't proof.
A proof requires calculations,emperical evidence,tested again and again but saying this or that should be like that or this isnt a proof.

I am glad i dint waste my time there,because the three Kepler's Laws of Orbital Motion should suffice to hit the point home if you understand the mathmatical steps involved.
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How typical, not a single rebuttal or even a weak attempt, just the same old tiresome dogma filled empty cheap rhetoric, my bishop said, my teacher said, the astrophysicist said, Darwin said, Dawkins said, the science book said, same old diabolic cheap lamentations I have grown accustomed to

Ben Dover wrote:A jobless hutu with ample time and access to the internet would definitely believe the earth is flat.

It is not the least bit surprising :)
If I am not mistaken you are the infidel along with your Buddhist cousin Xplayer, I don't even consider you ilks human's, worse then cattle as our lord described, I doubt you even have the intellectual capacity to even mount a feeble attempt at defence.

I wonder if there is anything you good at beyond your verbal defecation's, you so low on self-esteem and pride you even adopted a gaal westernised name, a hutu is a million times better then a blockhead subordinate imbecile like you.


Strategic wrote:SAD day for science.!

The 200 Proofs didnt actually provide a single proof.. saying things isn't proof.
A proof requires calculations,emperical evidence,tested again and again but saying this or that should be like that or this isnt a proof.

I am glad i dint waste my time there,because the three Kepler's Laws of Orbital Motion should suffice to hit the point home if you understand the mathmatical steps involved.
The bold part is the most ironic statement I have yet read from a spinning ball earth believer, even the suspected infidel above that can't navigate his way out of a paper bag is perhaps smarter then you.

Which experiment has there ever been conducted for the two greatest hoaxes on which this entire heliocentric ball earth myth rests upon? the two magical, almost miraculous discovered theories by unanimously accepted Freemasons? The absurdity which is gravity and relativity ??? The former always known as the laws of density and the latter a complete hoax.

There is a reason why both absurdities are called "theories", nothing that has been tested and proven in a lab is called a theory you moron, point to me an experiment conducted in a lab that tested gravity and one that tested relativity ? I spare you the time you would probably waste, there is NONE!.

On the topic of mathematics, it's my day job, I spent an entire decade writing sophisticated algo trading code for large hedge funds and investment banks before moving on to quants, don't come to me with the mathematical arguments, for an expert at his, the whole set of thousands upon thousands so called formula's are only their to baffle your mind and submit you into believe, they are counting on your ignorance.
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There is a reason no one is taking your flat earth conspiracy theory seriously. You have a track record of peddling absolute garbage concocted out of thin air, you unemployed buffoon.

You have 4000+ years of wonder, observation, demonstration, experimentation across the whole world, ideas being refined from the ancient Greeks through the Medieval Islamic world and renaissance Europe with other philosophers and astronomers from the Mayans and Aztecs through to the Chinese all independently discovering pieces of this grand puzzle. And then finally in the 20th Century men and women reaching beyond the bounds of earth to see with their own eyes the globe beneath them.

This story of human imagination and intellect, how it took the greatest minds to theorise and delineate the workings of the cosmos and on the backs of their genius now even a child can be shown and grasp the geometry and relationships between our planet and the heavenly bodies surrounding it. Mysteries that people strived and suffered and longed to reveal now there for everyone to see.

But some twats would sooner just think the world is flat :)
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^ were did you pluck 4000 years from? Do you even know the spinning ball earth heliocentric masonic myth was concocted just 150 years ago by the well known Freemason Copernicus? before that there was absolutely no debate about this topic, all the civilisation you mentioned believed in geocentriism and flat earth.

This is the problem a dumbed down educational system does to a person, makes him even believe that this supposed theory of an endless spinning ball earth is 4000 year old.

While your at it, how about you answer to me the following questions, do you believe the official stories of 9/11 and Apollo? serious question, a yes/no will do and while your at it give me an example of water defying it's laws of physics of always maintaining it's level and wrapping around a concave oblate spheroid.

Thanks.
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Evolution of science is 4000+ years old, and their believing in geocentrism is part of that evolution.

Apollo yes.

9/11 I dont care for but for the purpose of your question, yes.
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Ben Dover wrote:Evolution of science is 4000+ years old, and their believing in geocentrism is part of that evolution.

Apollo yes.

9/11 I dont care for but for the purpose of your question, yes.
No further discussions needed, clear for everyone to see your absolute gullible lunacy, an infidel, establishment believing 9/11 official story and that they went to the moon in the 60's. You really deserve the award of the dumbest guy on this forum, your all alone in the litany of absurd believes on this forum, no one else shares this with you.
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Oh really, mr the earth is flat :)

Its almost 2017 yaa ibnal ximaar.
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This donkey believes that we live on:

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:lol:

It has to be a comedy account :)
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