Bad news for Muuse Bixi

[theyuusuf143]

Today we can't handle Arab and ayub, we can't even take the heat of medium ones like cidagale and ciise Muse . Imagine cimraan, sanbuur, toljecle, reer dood, cumar, samane iwm, all messing the house separately , each one demanding something different . It's not easy to be the big brother of crazy youngsters .
We made you favor to put our laangaabs together and create major clan capable to survive and defend the Iidoor family . Our humble beginnings taught us to be open for Alliance, cooperation and compromises. In contrast the Habar yonis are prideful and arrogant they are like the bully kid of the school, they can have a crowd of cheerleaders who are afraid of them, but they are not nice enough to attract genuine friends.

genius, honest, sef critical and funny analysing from joseph

Interesting.

Hangool as a ciidagale in support of the opinion that HY are prideful, arrogant and bullies leaves me with no other choice but to take the words of Suldan Hangool as kosher

Theyuusuf,

how do you see the relationship between the Habar and a half (hj and sm ) with their HY cuzs in the future? What prediction can you make in terms of political alliances in sl changing and will HY and HJ ever become allies?
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Since SM share no Deegaan with both HJ and HY they are more open to break the current Alliance and switch to work with HY in the future depending on the future political situation in our country. the two eastern Habro are very unlikely to become allies Unanimously because the whole Somaliland political game is based on their rivalry , if they form Alliance the game is over, that's like Barcelona and Madrid joining together, who else can defeat them ? They should remain rivals (peaceful and friendly without hard feelings ) to keep Somaliland democracy interesting and competitive.

Same goes to the monkeys and SM they should never be in the same camp. Our political system needs a strong third block as well (ucid camp) who are capable to unseat the other two, this is way harti participation is vital for The Somaliland democracy. Or we should Abolish the existence of the third party for good, because if harti keep avoiding to vote, eventually each one of the three isaaq Habro will stick to their 'own' party and that can lead to civil war. In fact we barely escaped this situation this election , when most Habar awal switched to ucid. Silanyo's retirement changed the game, it prevented the possibility of super awal Alliance.

[jalaaludin5]

genius, honest, sef critical and funny analysing from joseph

Interesting.

Hangool as a ciidagale in support of the opinion that HY are prideful, arrogant and bullies leaves me with no other choice but to take the words of Suldan Hangool as kosher

Theyuusuf,

how do you see the relationship between the Habar and a half (hj and sm ) with their HY cuzs in the future? What prediction can you make in terms of political alliances in sl changing and will HY and HJ ever become allies?
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Since SM share no Deegaan with both HJ and HY they are more open to break the current Alliance and switch to work with HY in the future depending on the future political situation in our country. the two eastern Habro are very unlikely to become allies Unanimously because the whole Somaliland political game is based on their rivalry , if they form Alliance the game is over, that's like Barcelona and Madrid joining together, who else can defeat them ? They should remain rivals (peaceful and friendly without hard feelings ) to keep Somaliland democracy interesting and competitive.

Same goes to the monkeys and SM they should never be in the same camp. Our political system needs a strong third block as well (ucid camp) who are capable to unseat the other two, this is way harti participation is vital for The Somaliland democracy. Or we should Abolish the existence of the third party for good, because if harti keep avoiding to vote, eventually each one of the three isaaq Habro will stick to their 'own' party and that can lead to civil war. In fact we barely escaped this situation this election , when most Habar awal switched to ucid. Silanyo's retirement changed the game, it prevented the possibility of super awal Alliance.

Gartay
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[hangool79]

Interesting.

Hangool as a ciidagale in support of the opinion that HY are prideful, arrogant and bullies leaves me with no other choice but to take the words of Suldan Hangool as kosher

Theyuusuf,

how do you see the relationship between the Habar and a half (hj and sm ) with their HY cuzs in the future? What prediction can you make in terms of political alliances in sl changing and will HY and HJ ever become allies?
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Since SM share no Deegaan with both HJ and HY they are more open to break the current Alliance and switch to work with HY in the future depending on the future political situation in our country. the two eastern Habro are very unlikely to become allies Unanimously because the whole Somaliland political game is based on their rivalry , if they form Alliance the game is over, that's like Barcelona and Madrid joining together, who else can defeat them ? They should remain rivals (peaceful and friendly without hard feelings ) to keep Somaliland democracy interesting and competitive.

Same goes to the monkeys and SM they should never be in the same camp. Our political system needs a strong third block as well (ucid camp) who are capable to unseat the other two, this is way harti participation is vital for The Somaliland democracy. Or we should Abolish the existence of the third party for good, because if harti keep avoiding to vote, eventually each one of the three isaaq Habro will stick to their 'own' party and that can lead to civil war. In fact we barely escaped this situation this election , when most Habar awal switched to ucid. Silanyo's retirement changed the game, it prevented the possibility of super awal Alliance.

Gartay
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I love HY they are my brothers, but this is the only clan that has fought all clans within Somaliland. From Saylac to Badhan.
As late as 1880s the British recorded your very own SM pleading with the British for HY to stop raiding the coastal villages, so yeah the bully stamp is much real, and its truth besides some segments of Samaroon who acts as scared cheerleader they have no real friends, CG is family member and cannot be counted as friend

[hangool79]

Interesting.

Hangool as a ciidagale in support of the opinion that HY are prideful, arrogant and bullies leaves me with no other choice but to take the words of Suldan Hangool as kosher

Theyuusuf,

how do you see the relationship between the Habar and a half (hj and sm ) with their HY cuzs in the future? What prediction can you make in terms of political alliances in sl changing and will HY and HJ ever become allies?
-
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-

Since SM share no Deegaan with both HJ and HY they are more open to break the current Alliance and switch to work with HY in the future depending on the future political situation in our country. the two eastern Habro are very unlikely to become allies Unanimously because the whole Somaliland political game is based on their rivalry , if they form Alliance the game is over, that's like Barcelona and Madrid joining together, who else can defeat them ? They should remain rivals (peaceful and friendly without hard feelings ) to keep Somaliland democracy interesting and competitive.

Same goes to the monkeys and SM they should never be in the same camp. Our political system needs a strong third block as well (ucid camp) who are capable to unseat the other two, this is way harti participation is vital for The Somaliland democracy. Or we should Abolish the existence of the third party for good, because if harti keep avoiding to vote, eventually each one of the three isaaq Habro will stick to their 'own' party and that can lead to civil war. In fact we barely escaped this situation this election , when most Habar awal switched to ucid. Silanyo's retirement changed the game, it prevented the possibility of super awal Alliance.

Gartay
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Another spot on analysis by Joseph, if the Habar Yoonis observe that Ciise Muuse vote overwhelmingly for Muuse Biixi this coming election it will have consequences one way or another, an open Subeer Awal alliance will not be tolerated and might pave the road for another monster alliance, an alliance which only works for one purpose usually. This time waa laga xishooday, abdiwaraabe iyo cabdi ciise ayaa burburiyey, but what monkey sees monkey does

[jalaaludin5]

Since SM share no Deegaan with both HJ and HY they are more open to break the current Alliance and switch to work with HY in the future depending on the future political situation in our country. the two eastern Habro are very unlikely to become allies Unanimously because the whole Somaliland political game is based on their rivalry , if they form Alliance the game is over, that's like Barcelona and Madrid joining together, who else can defeat them ? They should remain rivals (peaceful and friendly without hard feelings ) to keep Somaliland democracy interesting and competitive.

Same goes to the monkeys and SM they should never be in the same camp. Our political system needs a strong third block as well (ucid camp) who are capable to unseat the other two, this is way harti participation is vital for The Somaliland democracy. Or we should Abolish the existence of the third party for good, because if harti keep avoiding to vote, eventually each one of the three isaaq Habro will stick to their 'own' party and that can lead to civil war. In fact we barely escaped this situation this election , when most Habar awal switched to ucid. Silanyo's retirement changed the game, it prevented the possibility of super awal Alliance.

Gartay
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I love HY they are my brothers, but this is the only clan that has fought all clans within Somaliland. From Saylac to Badhan.
As late as 1880s the British recorded your very own SM pleading with the British for HY to stop raiding the coastal villages, so yeah the bully stamp is much real, and its truth besides some segments of Samaroon who acts as scared cheerleader they have no real friends, CG is family member and cannot be counted as friend

Since 1880? Was that the time the isaxaq and muusa cabdale fled xirsi amaan and claimed asylum in berbera and hargeysa?
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[Timiro1999]

Gartay
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I love HY they are my brothers, but this is the only clan that has fought all clans within Somaliland. From Saylac to Badhan.
As late as 1880s the British recorded your very own SM pleading with the British for HY to stop raiding the coastal villages, so yeah the bully stamp is much real, and its truth besides some segments of Samaroon who acts as scared cheerleader they have no real friends, CG is family member and cannot be counted as friend

Since 1880? Was that the time the isaxaq and muusa cabdale fled xirsi amaan and claimed asylum in berbera and hargeysa?
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Asylum kute oo yaanu asylum ka weydiisanay horta, adeer "cadaankanu wada loolanaa madaw cisayn maayo"
HY dhul balaadhsi ayay wadeen ee cid qaxday may jirin.
Weligaa sheeko caruuredka ha dhegaysan.
Hadii aanan dhul balaadhsan lahayn imikaanu sida reeraha qaar afar tuulo oo isu muuqda degi lahayn cidna ma magac dhabayo
HY meel fog ayay wax ka arkeen
ALLOW dhawr HY

[jalaaludin5]

I love HY they are my brothers, but this is the only clan that has fought all clans within Somaliland. From Saylac to Badhan.
As late as 1880s the British recorded your very own SM pleading with the British for HY to stop raiding the coastal villages, so yeah the bully stamp is much real, and its truth besides some segments of Samaroon who acts as scared cheerleader they have no real friends, CG is family member and cannot be counted as friend

Since 1880? Was that the time the isaxaq and muusa cabdale fled xirsi amaan and claimed asylum in berbera and hargeysa?
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Asylum kute oo yaanu asylum ka weydiisanay horta, adeer "cadaankanu wada loolanaa madaw cisayn maayo"
HY dhul balaadhsi ayay wadeen ee cid qaxday may jirin.
Weligaa sheeko caruuredka ha dhegaysan.
Hadii aanan dhul balaadhsan lahayn imikaanu sida reeraha qaar afar tuulo oo isu muuqda degi lahayn cidna ma magac dhabayo
HY meel fog ayay wax ka arkeen
ALLOW dhawr HY

Timiroy pull the one, it's got bells on
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[Musa26]

Gartay
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I love HY they are my brothers, but this is the only clan that has fought all clans within Somaliland. From Saylac to Badhan.
As late as 1880s the British recorded your very own SM pleading with the British for HY to stop raiding the coastal villages, so yeah the bully stamp is much real, and its truth besides some segments of Samaroon who acts as scared cheerleader they have no real friends, CG is family member and cannot be counted as friend

Since 1880? Was that the time the isaxaq and muusa cabdale fled xirsi amaan and claimed asylum in berbera and hargeysa?
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isaxaaq was already in hargeysa by that time, maybe even before sacad muuse moved to hargeysa, but muuse cabdalluhu they always had a thing for ciise muuse, some way you will find ciise muuse in burco living with the HY

[jalaaludin5]

I love HY they are my brothers, but this is the only clan that has fought all clans within Somaliland. From Saylac to Badhan.
As late as 1880s the British recorded your very own SM pleading with the British for HY to stop raiding the coastal villages, so yeah the bully stamp is much real, and its truth besides some segments of Samaroon who acts as scared cheerleader they have no real friends, CG is family member and cannot be counted as friend

Since 1880? Was that the time the isaxaq and muusa cabdale fled xirsi amaan and claimed asylum in berbera and hargeysa?
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isaxaaq was already in hargeysa by that time, maybe even before sacad muuse moved to hargeysa, but muuse cabdalluhu they always had a thing for ciise muuse, some way you will find ciise muuse in burco living with the HY

Even before SM kulaha. Sxb I have never heard of anyone making an argument for Isaxaaq when it comes to the natives of Hargeysa. It's always been Ciidagale and SM.

Isaxaq and muusa cabdale are not natives of the cities they currently live in.
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[Musa26]

Since 1880? Was that the time the isaxaq and muusa cabdale fled xirsi amaan and claimed asylum in berbera and hargeysa?
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isaxaaq was already in hargeysa by that time, maybe even before sacad muuse moved to hargeysa, but muuse cabdalluhu they always had a thing for ciise muuse, some way you will find ciise muuse in burco living with the HY

Even before SM kulaha. Sxb I have never heard of anyone making an argument for Isaxaaq when it comes to the natives of Hargeysa. It's always been Ciidagale and SM.

Isaxaq and muusa cabdale are not natives of the cities they currently live in.
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typical sacad muuse logic. you actually said its always been ciidagale and sacad muuse as if arap and isaxaaq live in the clouds. technically speaking hargaysa should fall under the ciidagaleweyne umbrella which isaxaaq and arap are part of. sacad muuse moved to hargeysa when the place was already settled.

sacad muuse added alot to the place tho, marka ku soo dhawaw gurigina labaad, but bulaxar is your first home always

[hangool79]

isaxaaq was already in hargeysa by that time, maybe even before sacad muuse moved to hargeysa, but muuse cabdalluhu they always had a thing for ciise muuse, some way you will find ciise muuse in burco living with the HY

Even before SM kulaha. Sxb I have never heard of anyone making an argument for Isaxaaq when it comes to the natives of Hargeysa. It's always been Ciidagale and SM.

Isaxaq and muusa cabdale are not natives of the cities they currently live in.
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typical sacad muuse logic. you actually said its always been ciidagale and sacad muuse as if arap and isaxaaq live in the clouds. technically speaking hargaysa should fall under the ciidagaleweyne umbrella which isaxaaq and arap are part of. sacad muuse moved to hargeysa when the place was already settled.

sacad muuse added alot to the place tho, marka ku soo dhawaw gurigina labaad, but bulaxar is your first home always

[kanadiid90]

it wasnt even called hargeisa before we arrive, it was a dusty tuulo called ceelka herer

[jalaaludin5]

isaxaaq was already in hargeysa by that time, maybe even before sacad muuse moved to hargeysa, but muuse cabdalluhu they always had a thing for ciise muuse, some way you will find ciise muuse in burco living with the HY

Even before SM kulaha. Sxb I have never heard of anyone making an argument for Isaxaaq when it comes to the natives of Hargeysa. It's always been Ciidagale and SM.

Isaxaq and muusa cabdale are not natives of the cities they currently live in.
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typical sacad muuse logic. you actually said its always been ciidagale and sacad muuse as if arap and isaxaaq live in the clouds. technically speaking hargaysa should fall under the ciidagaleweyne umbrella which isaxaaq and arap are part of. sacad muuse moved to hargeysa when the place was already settled.

sacad muuse added alot to the place tho, marka ku soo dhawaw gurigina labaad, but bulaxar is your first home always

But at least you accept the fact that Isaxaaq and muusa cabdale were part of the great exodus called...kabtey meeday

Hear is some of the poem by Yawle

Isxaaq waxuu ununufaa, uurku-taalada'e 
Bal eegoo Afmeer bay galbeed, uga arooraane
Markay idin arkaan geelashaa, uubka loo ridi' 
Iman mayso Habar Yoonistaad u alwanaysaane !

Awal raace Muuse Cabadlana, odayadoodiiye 
Waa aawadiin waxa ku furay, Awdal iyo Shiikhe
Haduu gugu Aboorray ka da'o, ay ma soo galo'e 
Iman mayso Habar Yoonistaad u alwanaysaane !

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[Timiro1999]

Horta SM Hargeysa degaa waa reer xoosh oo sherkh madar dabadii yimid.
Isaxaaq, CG iyo Arab ayaa Hargeysa deganaa marku Sh Madar yimid.
Iska dhaaf xataa Jibriil abokor iyo reer xarshin ayaa Hargeysa sheegta

[hangool79]

it wasnt even called hargeisa before we arrive, it was a dusty tuulo called ceelka herer

Both Herer and Hargeisa are names of the valley, the name Hargeisa is just as old, it was only preferred later on due to the British taxonomy standard wanting to avoid mixing it with the Harar city, I suspect the entire area was called Harar.

With regards to Sacad Muuse, the reer samatar are the eldest in the valley having their ceel at xaraf. Arap, Isaxaaq where part of Ciidagaleweyne, basically sworn lineages, been there for a very long time.

Sacad Muuse, Nuux Ismail came later on after experiencing several disasters in the coastal region, Sheikh Madar was allowed to stay by the CG suldaan, and due to intermarriages and trade the tuulo started to flourish. When the british moved their HQ from Sheeikh to Hargeisa it was basically set at the place became a capital.