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[Ben Dover]

Then explain why Dhulbahante have 6 members and HJ have 3 sxb?! all am saying is you would think that since the vast majority of Dhulbahante and Warsengali didn't vote, HJ would have got way more members if they had any significant presence. In Las Anod were JS voted and the rest didn't hence why JS have 11 members in the city council. If it was a fair election with all the clans participating I don't think JS could get more than 5 sits. In the case of Erigavo HJ would have taken advantage of the other clans not voting and received way more than their fair share like HY and the JS in Las Anod.

These seat numbers mean very little. What happened was that the Biciide went mad and filed too many candidates, they competed against each other allowing other groups to gain seats. If the Biciide were better organised I doubt that Dhulbahante subclans would get half of Biciide's seats.

To give you another example of this, in Burco's local election, all of HY got the same number of seats as a single HJ subclan, namely Axmed Faarax. Another crazy result. I still would not say Burco is HJ city. I hope that is clear. The voter registration numbers will come out soon and will provide a much a better picture.

Am not disputing that it was founded by HY, Isaaq but clan settlements have evolved since the British were in Somalia. For example, Caynaba was 100% Dhulbahante town but due to the support of the British its majority HJ today.

Actually clan settlements did not change much in that part of the country. When the British arrived Ceerigaabo was surrounded on all sides by Isaaq. Some Dhulbahante lived to the East of town and some lived further South.

The British were not involved in the Caynaba struggle. If you are referring to arming clans, this was in their campaign against the Sayyid, and they armed as many Dhulos as they did HJ, read up on it.

Truth be told, most of the population of the city of Erigavo are HY closely followed by Naleya Ahmed. The other two barely got any presences.

You jest

[mahoka]

We do equally share the city. The results of the elections conducted by Somaliland confirms it.

In Las anod the local council is composed of:
Jamac Siyad 11
Bahrarsame 5
Qayaad 2
Fiqishini 1
Ugadhyahan 1
Barkad 1

anybody that knows a little about Las Anod would tell you this doesn't correspond to the clan make of the city. The reason why these results were produced is because the other clans didn't vote like Jamac Siyad. Both Ugadhyahan and Bahrarsame are more numerous in Las Anod than JS.
Therefore, using the same logic, either there more Harti in erigavo than isaaq or their equal.

You talk about a sub sub sub clan of HY, sxb the only Dhulbahante clan that settles in the city is a 13 generation sub clan of Dhulbahante - Naleye Ahmed.

And the only reason why they have control is due to the support of the somaliland government they enjoy.

Sxb you are absolutely mad if you believe there are more Dhulbahante in Ceerigaabo than HJ. On one hand you are using the local council numbers to claim there are more DH in Ceerigaabo than HJ and with the same breath you use same local council numbers in the case of Laascanood to prove that they (the numbers) are inaccurate!

Even the British on their visit to Ceerigaabo early on in Somaliland's protectorate history noted that Ceerigaabo is an Isaaq town. With the closest Dhulbahante subclan living to the East of ceerigaabo and Isaaq surrounding the city on all sides.

Its a HY town with strong Biciide presence and some Dhulos. Warsangeli are a tiny number when compared to others. This is true now and it was true a hundred years ago, there was always more Dhulos in the area than Warsans.

Then explain why Dhulbahante have 6 members and HJ have 3 sxb?! all am saying is you would think that since the vast majority of Dhulbahante and Warsengali didn't vote, HJ would have got way more members if they had any significant presence. In Las Anod were JS voted and the rest didn't hence why JS have 11 members in the city council. If it was a fair election with all the clans participating I don't think JS could get more than 5 sits. In the case of Erigavo HJ would have taken advantage of the other clans not voting and received way more than their fair share like HY and the JS in Las Anod.

Am not disputing that it was founded by HY, Isaaq but clan settlements have evolved since the British were in Somalia. For example, Caynaba was 100% Dhulbahante town but due to the support of the British its majority HJ today.

Truth be told, most of the population of the city of Erigavo are HY closely followed by Naleya Ahmed. The other two barely got any presences.

Lol look at this beggar. Keep claiming hy lands and they will fuck you . If ceerigabo is shared the lascanod is shared

[Bohol iyo karaman]

You are desperate your point was your daarood equally share the city with isaaq not how much h.j has compared to the Daaroods. Either way you cut it you have less power in ceerigaabo then a h.y sub sub sub clan so cease this sham of equal powers.

We do equally share the city. The results of the elections conducted by Somaliland confirms it.

In Las anod the local council is composed of:
Jamac Siyad 11
Bahrarsame 5
Qayaad 2
Fiqishini 1
Ugadhyahan 1
Barkad 1

anybody that knows a little about Las Anod would tell you this doesn't correspond to the clan make of the city. The reason why these results were produced is because the other clans didn't vote like Jamac Siyad. Both Ugadhyahan and Bahrarsame are more numerous in Las Anod than JS.
Therefore, using the same logic, either there more Harti in erigavo than isaaq or their equal.

You talk about a sub sub sub clan of HY, sxb the only Dhulbahnate clan that settles in the city is a 13 generation sub clan of Dhulbahante - Naleye Ahmed.

And the only reason why they have control is due to the support of the somaliland government they enjoy.

wan idin salamay reer somalinet,

beentii iyo faankii weli ma sidii an ogaabaa loo wadaa,

golaha degaanka degmada laascaanood waxa ka mid ah ama kursii ku leh beesha sacad yoonis reer barkad, magaciisuna waa Khaliif Ismaaciil Xuseen Yusuf (ina ismaaciil Gaane) wuxu ka soo baxay xisbiga wadani, wadka fiiriin kartaan liiska magacyada xildhibaanada degmada laascaanood. markaa faanka inaga yaree yaa, magaalada waa la wada degaa harti iyo isaaq.

[mahoka]

Are darod seriously trying to claim ceerigabo now kkkkkk , is hargeisa also a darod city

[SuldaanMaplesyrup]

Are darod seriously trying to claim ceerigabo now kkkkkk , is hargeisa also a darod city

Even our tuulos aren't spared from their ridiculous claims

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

You are desperate your point was your daarood equally share the city with isaaq not how much h.j has compared to the Daaroods. Either way you cut it you have less power in ceerigaabo then a h.y sub sub sub clan so cease this sham of equal powers.

We do equally share the city. The results of the elections conducted by Somaliland confirms it.

In Las anod the local council is composed of:
Jamac Siyad 11
Bahrarsame 5
Qayaad 2
Fiqishini 1
Ugadhyahan 1
Barkad 1

anybody that knows a little about Las Anod would tell you this doesn't correspond to the clan make of the city. The reason why these results were produced is because the other clans didn't vote like Jamac Siyad. Both Ugadhyahan and Bahrarsame are more numerous in Las Anod than JS.
Therefore, using the same logic, either there more Harti in erigavo than isaaq or their equal.

You talk about a sub sub sub clan of HY, sxb the only Dhulbahnate clan that settles in the city is a 13 generation sub clan of Dhulbahante - Naleye Ahmed.

And the only reason why they have control is due to the support of the somaliland government they enjoy.

wan idin salamay reer somalinet,

beentii iyo faankii weli ma sidii an ogaabaa loo wadaa,

golaha degaanka degmada laascaanood waxa ka mid ah ama kursii ku leh beesha sacad yoonis reer barkad, magaciisuna waa Khaliif Ismaaciil Xuseen Yusuf (ina ismaaciil Gaane) wuxu ka soo baxay xisbiga wadani, wadka fiiriin kartaan liiska magacyada xildhibaanada degmada laascaanood. markaa faanka inaga yaree yaa, magaalada waa la wada degaa harti iyo isaaq.

[Rabshoole]

I've always seen evergreen pics from ceerigabo but seeing this semi-desert location changes my perspectives on the region.

[Siciid85]

I've always seen evergreen pics from ceerigabo but seeing this semi-desert location changes my perspectives on the region.

Land has changed a ton. Even the most lush places in south will soon become destute deserts

[HamzzBowse]

Then explain why Dhulbahante have 6 members and HJ have 3 sxb?! all am saying is you would think that since the vast majority of Dhulbahante and Warsengali didn't vote, HJ would have got way more members if they had any significant presence. In Las Anod were JS voted and the rest didn't hence why JS have 11 members in the city council. If it was a fair election with all the clans participating I don't think JS could get more than 5 sits. In the case of Erigavo HJ would have taken advantage of the other clans not voting and received way more than their fair share like HY and the JS in Las Anod.

These seat numbers mean very little. What happened was that the Biciide went mad and filed too many candidates, they competed against each other allowing other groups to gain seats. If the Biciide were better organised I doubt that Dhulbahante subclans would get half of Biciide's seats.

To give you another example of this, in Burco's local election, all of HY got the same number of seats as a single HJ subclan, namely Axmed Faarax. Another crazy result. I still would not say Burco is HJ city. I hope that is clear. The voter registration numbers will come out soon and will provide a much a better picture.

Am not disputing that it was founded by HY, Isaaq but clan settlements have evolved since the British were in Somalia. For example, Caynaba was 100% Dhulbahante town but due to the support of the British its majority HJ today.

Actually clan settlements did not change much in that part of the country. When the British arrived Ceerigaabo was surrounded on all sides by Isaaq. Some Dhulbahante lived to the East of town and some lived further South.

The British were not involved in the Caynaba struggle. If you are referring to arming clans, this was in their campaign against the Sayyid, and they armed as many Dhulos as they did HJ, read up on it.

Truth be told, most of the population of the city of Erigavo are HY closely followed by Naleya Ahmed. The other two barely got any presences.

You jest

The Last Burco elections were corrupt so its hard to say the representative in local councils are correct and/or fair. Ceerigabo demographic has never really changed much since its establishment.

To the west live Muse Turwa segments of Muse Ismail
To the South Abdi Hamud segments of Muse ismail
To the East Mohammed muse (Urursuge) and Muse Yonis segments of Muse Ismail
To the North Jebril Turwa (Qori Jarato) segments of Muse Ismail
To Central Ceerigabo is Abdullah Hamud segments of Muse ismail which are also the founders and rulers of the city till now.

The city including the miyee's are filled with Muse ismail tribes which there degaans go far beyond the city in each direction where they meet and border other tribes. (not including Muse Carre & Sacad Yonis segments of HY Bari)

However Ceerigaabo is a city and a regional capital and there are other notible clans which reside there such as Udurxmin from Xiis (HJ) to Dhulbante with some warsangeli's. But there out of the 3 there are more Dhulbante presence with Warsangelis compared to HJ.

[Ben Dover]

Dhilaysane I am surprised you did not insert your Sacad Yonis in there somehow, you have matured in exile

So the results are corrupt in Burco because you lost, and fair in Ceerigaabo because you won?

[xiimaaya]

Mashllah 60 percent if buildings is owned by warsangeli

[PanSomaliNationalist]

Lol in erigavo habar yoni are warsengelI concubine

[mahoka]

Kkkkkkk jebarti ceerigabo isn't galkacayo

[HamzzBowse]

Dhilaysane I am surprised you did not insert your Sacad Yonis in there somehow, you have matured in exile

So the results are corrupt in Burco because you lost, and fair in Ceerigaabo because you won?

HY have been the mayors of Burco ever since, theres only been 2 HJ mayors both Ahmed Farah. The 2010 local elections in Burco were corrupt and the system disorganized with double votes etc.

Ceerigabo is much less diverse than Burco so local Councillors and mayor has always been Muse Ismail majority. The governors of Sanaag has also always been Muse Ismail even in Sool, Until for the first time they had that Ciise Muse guy which they didn't like and kicked out and now Governor Fly which is HJ - Cumar Jibril which is good despite playing the clan politics card in the beginning.