Somalia needed a Marehan president to address the past & move forward

[Voltage]

I don't think people understood my point.

My point is if people are rehashing 1972, maybe Somalia needed a MX for closure.

With regards to whether Farmaajo paid a little or no, sometimes you need to get your hands dirty to burn the devil. I went back to read some pre-election topics ans guys that were boasting about corruption ("Millionaire" Caddow Cali Gees in the mix...big boy will wipe HSM...what's the relavance of his money unless people were hoping he would buy the election?) are now trying to discredit Farmaajo.

[fanaanYG]

Som are saying Somalia moved from Curruption government to rapist and curruption government.

My prediction is Abgaal will be the first to rebel follow by MJ.

HG way ka qalaynee and sit and watch are friends with both Murusade and MX and be on soft like they did for Culusow when they said let's not get blamed for bringing down a Hawiye let government but watch out abgaal they will start to wage political war.

[TheblueNwhite]

The bribes took place the day before the election.

Sheikh Sharif and 80% of the presidential candidates refused to bribe mps for votes. The candidates who paid the most money were HSM and Farmajo. Fact.

Another fact : Qatar gave Farmajo $10 million to finance the election.

Farmaajo got the votes he bought in the first round.
In the second round, the non dj mps made a pact to vote for whomever comes 2nd to HSM.

So Sh Shariif who was willing to engage in musuqmaasuq, low level back dealing etc. to be President of a uselessTransitional Gov for just a extra few months, would somehow be above the fray and not engage in bribery to be President of a Permemant Government? Farmaajo Had a track record of salary allowance for the troops/police, cracked down on corruption in just His 6 months yet I was able to for arguments sake say Yes He did engage in bribery. After that You come back and say that Sh Shariif is Daahir and dind't pay one penny? This is why I find it pointless to engage in these debates anymore because it is so predictable everybody just goes to their battle stations and defends their Tol. Ultimately time will tell with Farmaajo good or bad.

Murax. Bluenwhite is Waceysle like HSM. Shariif is Harti Abgaal. So your accusation makes no sense. I too heard the same that Farmaajo was funded by Qatar and it's not far fetched when you see people like Fahad yaasiin (faarax cabdulqadir 2.0) running the show in the background.

The pot calling the kettle black. Lol

I mean these Mareexaan dudes who were MIA for 4 yrs came out of their caves when a Mareexaan became President and Murax nicca is accusing me of qabyaalad. Lol.

Cadow Cali Gees, a Waceysle candidate and CQadir Cossoble, a Hart Abgaal bribed MPs but Sheikh Sharif, Ali Ameriko and Jibril didnt. I call them like I see them.

[26June1960]

So Sh Shariif who was willing to engage in musuqmaasuq, low level back dealing etc. to be President of a uselessTransitional Gov for just a extra few months, would somehow be above the fray and not engage in bribery to be President of a Permemant Government? Farmaajo Had a track record of salary allowance for the troops/police, cracked down on corruption in just His 6 months yet I was able to for arguments sake say Yes He did engage in bribery. After that You come back and say that Sh Shariif is Daahir and dind't pay one penny? This is why I find it pointless to engage in these debates anymore because it is so predictable everybody just goes to their battle stations and defends their Tol. Ultimately time will tell with Farmaajo good or bad.

Murax. Bluenwhite is Waceysle like HSM. Shariif is Harti Abgaal. So your accusation makes no sense. I too heard the same that Farmaajo was funded by Qatar and it's not far fetched when you see people like Fahad yaasiin (faarax cabdulqadir 2.0) running the show in the background.

The pot calling the kettle black. Lol

I mean these Mareexaan dudes who were MIA for 4 yrs came out of their caves when a Mareexaan became President and Murax nicca is accusing me of qabyaalad. Lol.

Cadow Cali Gees, a Waceysle candidate and CQadir Cossoble, a Hart Abgaal bribed MPs but Sheikh Sharif, Ali Ameriko and Jibril didnt. I call them like I see them.

Come on, at least be more truthful. They were MIA for at least 3 years. The first year of HSM, they were in here discussing his reign.

[SultanOrder]

Two years buddy, we had Saacid & Cabdiwali Sheikh

[TheblueNwhite]

Lol. CC chased them out.

[smooth]

I don't think people understood my point.

I don't understand you either, why would you post such a thread anyway? because some Habar Awal or Habar Habusheed posters with spineless Gaalo fringe Garaxajis whom are mostly in support of union attack Farmaajo on here?

What else did you expect from such bakhti people anyway? Even the none Garaxajis Isaaq's I have met so far in real-life support Farmaajo, so is anyone that knows what's really going on back home.

Farmaajo wouldn't have existed in people's mind had it not been for Sheikh Shariif's policy of appointing only knowledgeable man, which resulted in him becoming PM after being handpicked by Shariif, than was forced to resign by the IC after pressure by Ethiopia/Kenya and P/land because of how fierce he was, only in Xamar was there demonstrations, no were else, much of his campaigners/financiers were HAG on the ground.

The dude is a populist people's candidate, had he been Isaaq I would have supported him too, anything but the Bermuda triangle tuugo, you should be happy how he has united Marexaan, a tribe that was the most disunited in the whole of Somalia, almost double digit fractions they split on, J/land fraction, Anti J/land faction, Pro Galmudug, Anti Galmudug (Ahlu Sunnah), Pro P/land (Galgaluud Sare), they even fought each other over it.

Today they are all one and so are the majority of the people, even though he has done nothing for his tribe much like Siyaad barre (AUN) whom didn't build anything of note in your regions. Many MX didn't like Farmaajo for this very reason (before he was elected), because he wouldn't even talk about his regions the decade or so he was campaigning and refused to attend qabiil only meetings.

There was a famous incident during USC, while Ceydiid man were pursuing Barre and the troops guarding him in Gedo, they cursed him for not building proper roads as everything was slow, Barre responded to them that if he did build them, they would all be dead now and those men would have surrounded them by now. This was told me by a high ranking MX colonel that was with him more then a decade ago.

The people's support has nothing to do with his tribe but his nationalism and what he did, embrace it, say Alhamdulilah, hope for the best, he made monumental promises, let's wait and see what he does and ignore the fools.

[AwRastaale]

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[Murax]

Okay so I did some research and Yes Farmaajo did engage in the laaluush. If We're gonna be civilized We gotta admit When we're wrong and own up to it

In Shaa Allah He just saw this as a necessary evil He had to do

[sahal80]

sharif had no money he said to them wait me until the last night i will pay you then

people thought as former president and a friand of many countries he had millions. he may had ok money but he was not ready to lose all of his money

so in the last night he gave per mp $2000 and they were like wtf? ? so daljir group left him. this doesnt mean they r all islamists it means the mps secured by them or who are sssociated with them (30 mps) fahad yaasiin baa la wareegay hal mar(fahad had $4m) thats how farmajo moved from 40 mps to 70 mps in the last night

lacagta waxaa la dhiibaa 3 clock aftrr midnight in the last night bc many candidates fear they maybe in another groups

so until the last night they r like a reserved seat, hebel intaasaa u xareysan hebel intaas suu heystaa, daljir intaas baa u xareysan, garguurte intaas baa u xareysan, farmajo intaas baa u xareysan, ccc....

some of them waa buubuumin but in reality all of the knew each other

kuma darsan kartid bc they r researved seats. example garguurte and farah abdulqadir had the same numbers bc inta kale are researved

not all mps get paid money. most of them had no money to become an mp so you will go for garguurte, or cc or fahsd yaasiin(not farmajo why? not bc hes not corrupted he is the least corrupt as pro abdisamarar calls him, he was a front organization. if i give example just for mx mps fahad paid for the seat of abdishakur mire(gaal eri) so nothing is free. some mps had money like goodax and tarsan but they were not allowed so it will depend on how their clan. tarsan lost bc of garguurte controlling his clan but for hawadle garguurte was able just to put his guys through like abdirizaaq(only two voted him) casho haji sheikh abdulqadir couldnt in Galmudug

there were mps who need money to pay for their dayn not bc they r too corrupt and there were those who were corrupt 100%


back to the topic; i dont see what voltage talks about kkk

sxb if you really know the things you wouldnt look it from a clan perspective. there is nothing qabiil heshiis somalis r the same; darod r the same, hawiye are the same,

all non darods voted hawiye in the first round(200 votes vs 100 for darod candidates)

the true is farmajo was not representing mx but a third political axis vs pro ethiopia abgaal axis and pro-UAE mj axis

waxaa jiray no more abgaal so the HG and murursade thought the only way to stop them was to take the pm seat

4 abgaals were leading HAG candidates; garguurte, sharif, osoble and cadow

mx had no money and relations to begin with

but i agree one thing that somalis dont look mx as mj or ogadeen or daroodka shisheeysha ku xiran.

[Voltage]

Sahal, MX raised a lot of money from Farmaajo from dibadaha.

Also Farmaajo convinced Marehan only he should run. He even had a meeting with Abdiwali Sheekh with the Ugas of Marehan present (very close to Abdiwali Sheekh) and they convinced him not to run and leave it to Farmaajo.

Smooth, you're right man. I guess I was surprised by the emotions and the past rekindling surrounding Farmaajo being Marehan

[sahal80]

Sahal, MX raised a lot of money from Farmaajo from dibadaha.

Also Farmaajo convinced Marehan only he should run. He even had a meeting with Abdiwali Sheekh with the Ugas of Marehan present (very close to Abdiwali Sheekh) and they convinced him not to run and leave it to Farmaajo.

Smooth, you're right man. I guess I was surprised by the emotions and the past rekindling surrounding Farmaajo being Marehan

mx raised less than $150,000 not just them all somalis waxaana masuul ka ahaa cabdinuur sheekh. i know this.

yes farmaajo has made good reputation and propaganda for himself but rembember 2012 he was popular too. this time he was different bc of the $

see me and smooth
"Farmajo of yesterday is different than today, this time hes a frontman for many political groups who have arab and Islamic support. Money+charisma"

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=376164

[X.Playa]

I disagree, first of all I don't give a shit about iidoor and past grievances. I did not commit any crime and I lost my inheritance, my family members were killed, and I ended up refugee because of the civil war, yet I am not begging like a bitchh for an apology and some money, I think of the entire civil war as a lesson from God. It is time to move forward, Alhamdulilah I have the ability to build my future but I do wish to retire in a stable Somali republic when I am old so I want people like farmaajo to fix that. I dont think Marehan has any special powers to lead, to be honest kaftan ayee iga aheed some of my post, but I am of course happy my cousin is sitting on the throne, but it is up to Allah in the end, I sincerely hope Somalis try their best for 4 years and work together, no one man can change our current circumstance and that of our nation.

Your family got butt fuckked to the grave beacuse they were defending Afweyne thats not war crime thats justice.

[X.Playa]

All faqash and walaweyn openly admit this red lipped messiah of theirs came to power through bribery but somehow they expect him to be a Nelson Mandela. These faqash and walaweyn are so delusional i feel sorry for them.

[sahal80]

All faqash and walaweyn openly admit this red lipped messiah of theirs came to power through bribery but somehow they expect him to be a Nelson Mandela. These faqash and walaweyn are so delusional i feel sorry for them.

the problem is the system. you cant be an mp without $ and you need to pay back the money. president farmaajo is getting rid of this system first no mp cant be a minister until this article was changed. once you became a minister you will lose your mp membership. i know you dont allow this but this is not like a region its part of the failed somaliwayn system.


systemkaan waxaa waxka sameeyay dirta waqooyi. waxay dastuurka ku qoreen mp can be a minister ayagaa isku tolay. ok sidee u badalee hadaadan wadadeeda marin?