Will we ever see a isaaq president in Somalia

[Khalid Ali]

even the most reasonable southern sahal says our rule puts them under ethiopia how does that make sense not that they are not under ethiopia right now second. why say no isaaq can become president when all of u claim to be for the old defunct somali Republic u dont want to share anything with us good we want that now lets say good bye hadana when we say that u get emotional hanaga tegina dadknan ma irrational baad tihin maskaxdinu siday u shaqeysa.. horta

[sahal80]

suldan

koonfur waa saaxad ay isku haystaan labo qabiil and you have been eating in 1960 so best lack for your ictiraf!

waqooyi rule can put us under Ethiopa politically, economically and calturally. we r not the same really. so never.

You're the worst amateur "political analyst" I've seen this far.

Your ountry is occupied by Ethiopia. Your agricultural based economy is at the mercy of Ethiopia (the ongoing dam projects Jubba & Shabeelle), the Americans you put your trust in and the AU will was favor Ethiopia. Even Turkey is using Zoomalia to get a foothold in Africa.

Zoomalia doesn't have politics, only interests groups with different banners and two clans operating within these interest groups.

What you're accusing us of is ridiculous. It's maqaaxi gossip at best.

A sane Isaaq would never dream of Zoomalia because we could've had a stable and functioning country for the last 57 years if we didn't join the animal kingdom Zoomalia.

Xildiid im not against who you are but i dont want to put my self under someone who calls ethiopia "walaalo" or "friends" sorry i dont wanna be their friend neither their walaal. i used to see this Isaq guy telling my hawiye friends during the ethiopuan occupation of xamar as he was expressing his sympathy to them: " SNM was not just a rebel movement but a model for the New Somali-Ethiopian relations so cut that faqash and religion crap!!"

being accuppied means i resist them. be honest, ethiopian news and advertisement r all over your english-based websites, waqooyi artists using amharo music, yet this so called frienf cant trust you on your arab deal on berbera port and is blackmailing you. it doesnt need evidence to show that hargeysa is their most friendly region of all somali territories.

im refusing this assimilation with Ethiopia. i want to have a neutral, islamist, and nationalist-led Somalia.

[sahal80]

even the most reasonable southern sahal says our rule puts them under ethiopia how does that make sense not that they are not under ethiopia right now second. why say no isaaq can become president when all of u claim to be for the old defunct somali Republic u dont want to share anything with us good we want that now lets say good bye hadana when we say that u get emotional hanaga tegina dadknan ma irrational baad tihin maskaxdinu siday u shaqeysa.. horta

im acknowledging these differencies sxb. koonfur has no more tribal system and most strong politicians r now farah abdulqadir and fahad yasin. Murursade is the most influential subclan in xamar now more than HG and abgaal as ala sheikh leaders.

Ethiopia is now fighting al ictisam in PL, Gaas has been in adis ababa about this. al ictisaam control the economy of PL like shirkada Golis iyo rugta ganacsiga but you cant notice them bc they r mjnists

politically im aligned with the idea of 8 gobol-based power sharing not the 18 gobol since this cant happen we dont mind the north going on its own way even for self government. today if you want to divide every cake for all somalis you have to divide it based on the 18 gobol. there is alot of injust in the south not only the north.

[sahal80]

suldan

koonfur waa saaxad ay isku haystaan labo qabiil and you have been eating in 1960 so best lack for your ictiraf!

waqooyi rule can put us under Ethiopa politically, economically and calturally. we r not the same really. so never.

You're the worst amateur "political analyst" I've seen this far.

Your ountry is occupied by Ethiopia. Your agricultural based economy is at the mercy of Ethiopia (the ongoing dam projects Jubba & Shabeelle)

siraaca koonfurta ma fahansanid. anaga madiidanin in ethiopia gacanta nagu hayso laakiin waa inaad qirataa inaan anagana dagaaal kula jirno. masalan ethiopia hiiraan waxay ka baxdey november 2008 labo bil ka hor xamar waayo political vocuum majirin madama col omar hashi iyo gen mukhtar muqaawamada hugaaminayeen ma ahayn muqaawamo jihaadi ah sida koonfurta kale. hal sano waxaa ka jiray hiiraan xukun pro- tfg ah. meeshii laga rabay in sidoo kale xamar iyo jowhar ay ciidanka ka dhigaan muqaawamada waxaa ka dilaacay afarjeeblayaal. afarjeeble waa nin dantiisa bas ku fakira. hal sano kadib gudoomiyihii hiiraan ee ex maxaakimta ayaa xamar tagey si ciidanka loogu helo UNDP funds iyo hub, afarjeeble shariif wuxuu ku yiri areey xaa isu wareerinee itoobiya aan kuugu yeeero!

gudoomiyaheenii waa soo laabtey not just resigmed but he dissolved maamulka. so jihadists take over baledweyne peacefully.

shariikaas afarjeeblaha noqdey, fahad yasin ayaa mar uu waraysi nairobi uga qaadamayay magaca qanaatka al jazeera oo xamar la safatay against ethiopia. wuxuu ku yiri aduunka ayaa ku daswanaya nin madoowna waa tahay iska siib qamiiska oo jaket ama suit xiro. wuxuu yiri wallahi qamiis waxaan ka ahayn maba qabo!

fahad ayaa baxay suit ayuu siiyay. markuu shariif tuug isku badalay ayaa fahad wareeysi kale ka qaadey oo amisomta xamar xoreynaysa iyo itoobiya waydiiyay. kalab ayaa tahay buu ku yiri wuxuuna amray in camerooyinka laga qaado laadna kooga saaro madaxtooyada!!

afarjeble garguurte waxwalbe wuu isaxiixay itoobiya, waa uga aamusey. hada cidankkoda waxay kala baxayaan dhulka hawiyaha si farmaajo isku dhiibo. ceelbuur waa cadaadis raysulwasaaraha la saarayo macnaha nin aan dhulkiisa ka talin muxuu tari, inuusan ciidan ka aruursan ceelbuur, in hadii uu farmaajo isku dhajiyo hiraabka la isticmaalo kadib hadii ciidadama xamar isku dhacaan, magaca IGAD lagu soo galo, raysulwasaare cusub la sameeyo oo abgaal ah farmajana xabsi guri la dhigo!

si looga hortago qorshahan waxaa la wadaa in dag dag ciidamo Galmudug iyo baledweyne ah la keeno si aan afarjeeblayaasha loogu bashan.

marka la soco taxriir siyaasi ayaan ku jirnaa.

[Xildiiid]

What you brought to the table is nothing but coffee shop gossip. "Nin Isaaqa ayaa beri yidhi.."

Your paper government is not actively fighting Ethiopia, neither is the civilian population, so what you've stated is pure nonsense.

I know that the standard of measurement for ones nationalism in Zoomalia is based on how anti Ethiopia one is, but unfortunately your words don't match the actions of your paper government and civilian population.

To us Ethiopia is not a friend nor an enemy. We don't hate Ethiopia because she's pursuing her interests but we have interests as well. We assess Ethiopias interests in contrast to our own and our policies are based on mutual benefits. Aduunyada danta waa la kala leeyahay, laakin dantu waa inay isu miisaanataa. The only reason why we're in this predicament is because of our eternal enemy Zoomalia, whose sabotage and bitter hatred for Somaliland has made us vulnerable to foreign countries.

You claim that you don't care wether SL regains her long lost sovereignty or not, but in other threads you've stated that you hope for a confederacy of two governments in one country. You see.. this is the two faced nature of the creature we call Walaweyn. It's similar to how your politicians claim that we're their brother (we're not) and how they will do everything in their power to negotiate with us and reach a deal when they're actually conspiring day and night to destroy SL because they're afraid that we will outdo them and outshine them once we've regained our sovereignty.

Waxba Ethiopia ha ku meereysan, we know our enemies and their modus operandi.

[Havoc]

What you brought to the table is nothing but coffee shop gossip. "Nin Isaaqa ayaa beri yidhi.."

Your paper government is not actively fighting Ethiopia, neither is the civilian population, so what you've stated is pure nonsense.

I know that the standard of measurement for ones nationalism in Zoomalia is based on how anti Ethiopia one is, but unfortunately your words don't match the actions of your paper government and civilian population.

To us Ethiopia is not a friend nor an enemy. We don't hate Ethiopia because she's pursuing her interests but we have interests as well. We assess Ethiopias interests in contrast to our own and our policies are based on mutual benefits. Aduunyada danta waa la kala leeyahay, laakin dantu waa inay isu miisaanataa. The only reason why we're in this predicament is because of our eternal enemy Zoomalia, whose sabotage and bitter hatred for Somaliland has made us vulnerable to foreign countries.

You claim that you don't care wether SL regains her long lost sovereignty or not, but in other threads you've stated that you hope for a confederacy of two governments in one country. You see.. this is the two faced nature of the creature we call Walaweyn. It's similar to how your politicians claim that we're their brother (we're not) and how they will do everything in their power to negotiate with us and reach a deal when they're actually conspiring day and night to destroy SL because they're afraid that we will outdo them and outshine them once we've regained our sovereignty.

Waxba Ethiopia ha ku meereysan, we know our enemies and their modus operandi.

let go of this sovereignty idea that will never happen and join your Dir brothers to take over the whole of Somalia. Think bigger.

[Xildiiid]

^
Our cause is not qabiil based, it's based on correcting a mistake we committed in 1960.

[sahal80]

What you brought to the table is nothing but coffee shop gossip. "Nin Isaaqa ayaa beri yidhi.."

Your paper government is not actively fighting Ethiopia, neither is the civilian population, so what you've stated is pure nonsense.

I know that the standard of measurement for ones nationalism in Zoomalia is based on how anti Ethiopia one is, but unfortunately your words don't match the actions of your paper government and civilian population.

To us Ethiopia is not a friend nor an enemy. We don't hate Ethiopia because she's pursuing her interests but we have interests as well. We assess Ethiopias interests in contrast to our own and our policies are based on mutual benefits. Aduunyada danta waa la kala leeyahay, laakin dantu waa inay isu miisaanataa. The only reason why we're in this predicament is because of our eternal enemy Zoomalia, whose sabotage and bitter hatred for Somaliland has made us vulnerable to foreign countries.

You claim that you don't care wether SL regains her long lost sovereignty or not, but in other threads you've stated that you hope for a confederacy of two governments in one country. You see.. this is the two faced nature of the creature we call Walaweyn. It's similar to how your politicians claim that we're their brother (we're not) and how they will do everything in their power to negotiate with us and reach a deal when they're actually conspiring day and night to destroy SL because they're afraid that we will outdo them and outshine them once we've regained our sovereignty.

Waxba Ethiopia ha ku meereysan, we know our enemies and their modus operandi.

who said the former govts were representing us? i said, in koonfur, things went wrong after the liberation by using amisom wich had no mandate to go beyond villa somalia and xalane. amisom mandate was not liberation. amisom was called by yeey as IGADSOM and djibouti was agsinst it then t has changed into AMISOM to replace ethiopia until sharif govt takesover in mogadishu. this is omar hashi stating they will fill the thiopian gap and he did it in hiiraan
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/somalisw ... aliya/amp/

since then ethiopia has been controlling mogadishu through the security bc of these afarjeeblayaasha not caring more thsn their seat. xamar is full of political groups who want taxriiri siyasi wich is very very far from your SL mentality like involving ethiopia in your port business. we have people who r still allied with asmara and who believe in negotiations with al shabab bc it will split them into two like the group of rooboow, cayr hizbul islam elelments, OG elements these groups r funded by asmara so having a neutral govt will make asmara stop funding them.

we have national army agenda trianed by turkey to train 25,000 this year then arms embargo will be lifted fully bc they r multi-clan based wich is a huge reform. then we will have f-king tanks and beat the shit out of the minorities and non koonfurian terrorists.



my confederacy point is a secret deal dicussed by the UK, EU and the somali stakeholders they were waiting just for the out come of the elections in two sides. nothing official position yet but i can tell you the new kulmiye theorist who is behind the negotiations with khatumo knows about it. listen to 10:50

yes i dont care but i know such thing cant happen specially under this darod-led Govt. khayre deals with hawiye affairs whil farmaajo picked his clan and waqooyi officials. somehow i knew he will pick the deputy FM and give more ministers to certain subclan based on their nairobi contacts and one former unionist who was in that meeting had made recent contacts. so i dont even think the position im talking about will be realistic if a political fragmentation occurs within the inpendent camp.

ok im out i talked too much.

[FBISOMALIA]

Ethiopia is now fighting al ictisam in PL, Gaas has been in adis ababa about this. al ictisaam control the economy of PL like shirkada Golis iyo rugta ganacsiga but you cant notice them bc they r mjnists

Ictisam are dead when AY finish them in the 90s

[Xildiiid]

You're still chatting so much shit mixed with coffee shop gossip.

Beat the shit out of minorities? Way to go you f-king mooryan piece of shit.

[sahal80]

Ethiopia is now fighting al ictisam in PL, Gaas has been in adis ababa about this. al ictisaam control the economy of PL like shirkada Golis iyo rugta ganacsiga but you cant notice them bc they r mjnists

Ictisam are dead when AY finish them in the 90s

kkkkk you speak arabic and you dont knw shyt about PL. as konfurians all those who debate us on tvs representing PL are ictisam. ciiday ka badan yihiin but you cant really tell them bc they have the same qabiilist discourse like the 18 gobol and were against representation based on 4.5 cause this makes darod the biggest clan in the parliament
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/mareeg.com ... qriso/amp/

al itahad has gone they adopted a new ideology called دعوة ياقوم centered on mj intetests

they also look modern and have trimmed beard or french beard

in short all the PL students in sudan, pakistan and malaysia r ictisam plus the local universities like east africa

who founded rugta ganacsiga PL? saciid ciid and xayir who r ictisaam

who owns Golis? ictisam. PL govt borrows money from them. whos ali haji warsame the man who threatns gaas? al ictisam. now they r allied with faroole who backs this guy. faroole said my jufo will take the minister to install haji whos omar mohamud in garowe. deliverymen of mogadishu r backing haji too bc gaas cant work woth farmajo. the last scenario is calling for a new elections and CC taking over garowe representing his coastal jufo. reason why gaas mskes deals in dubai is togetger money as he can before....

نطلاقاً من الدّور الأبوي الذي تفترضه الجماعة في نفسها، افتتحت مجموعة مداراس وجامعة هي جامعة شرق افريقيا بفروعها في جميع مدن بونتلاند تقريبا، ومؤسسات مثل المنهاج الخيرية، ومستشفى المنهل الجامعي، كما أسسوا شركة اتصالات تعتبر الأضخم في بونتلاند هي شركة غولس.

السيطره الخفية على مقاليد السلطة

يرى الكثيرون ان الجماعة أعدت برنامج ممنهج للسيطرة على كل مؤسسات الدولة، وفي مقدمتها المؤسسة التشريعية، والمؤسسة العسكرية، نجحت الجماعة في تنفيذ جزء كبير من مخططها على حسب اعتقاد هؤلاء، فهي تسللت إلى مقاعد مجلس النواب بفضل الاعضاء المنتمين لها أو وجود أعضاء آخرين موالين لها لأسباب مادية، فالحركة تعتبر الممول الرئيسي لأعضاء البرلمان في الانتخابات، في ظل ما أسمته بالاستثمار السياسي .ومن جهة أخرى، فهي بالنسبه لهم مهد الفساد والرشوة، فمن خلال أموالها قزمت الدور الشعب وآماله للحصول على الحكومة الراشدة، ثم همّشت دور المثقفين وأصحاب الخبرة والنزاهة. وبسبب أساليبها داخل السلطة فقد حولت الدولة إلى جسد مترهل ينخزه الفساد ويعتمد على 80% في عائداته من ضرائب السوق الذي تحتكر معظمه الحركة، علماً أنها لا تدفع كامل الضريبه والمستحقات للدولة على حسب وصف الكثيرين

http://takayaa.com/2016/12/14/2192/

[AwRastaale]

What's Sahal saying guys?

I need someone to summarise his essays.

Thanks.

I hope he is not saying Isaaq have no chance but his Hawadle does because even in al Shabab Isaaq Emir selected the committee while here al Shabab appoint Hawadle suldaans as mere followers.

[sahal80]

What's Sahal saying guys?

I need someone to summarise his essays.

Thanks.

I hope he is not saying Isaaq have no chance but his Hawadle does because even in al Shabab Isaaq Emir selected the committee while here al Shabab appoint Hawadle suldaans as mere followers.

kkkkk niyahow waa igu walatey. hawadle already rule in jowhar whats different between jowhar and xamar? security or interior minister is stronger 10 times than your isaaq deputy bc we have army and police in xamar and a whole waax. hawadle PM will act strongly but isaaq pm cant. we have been offered to the speaker but bc of hiirshabelle we ignored it. your bragging about a man whos is a murursade deputy kkkk hawiye even took your FM paper post. this is how al shabaab minister started shitting himself when goodax threatened him" in uu luuqa ka raadsan doono" he was forced to appologize kkkk


he was forced to release statement and apologize kk niyow aamus koobfur maataa ka tihiine. wasiirka amnigaa jeejeexay warqad dirta koonfur ka so qorteen deputygiina oo amisom kabxableey lagu geeynayay kkkk

get the fuck out of my way you confused unionist!

and this al qaida terrorist godane was killed on information provided by sanbalolshe. this terrorist group is over.


this terrorist unukaleh fifth column has said after visiting baledweyne" choice either al shabaab or the govt!!

[AwRastaale]

What's Sahal saying guys?

I need someone to summarise his essays.

Thanks.

I hope he is not saying Isaaq have no chance but his Hawadle does because even in al Shabab Isaaq Emir selected the committee while here al Shabab appoint Hawadle suldaans as mere followers.

kkkkk niyahow waa igu walatey. hawadle already rule in jowhar whats different between jowhar and xamar? security or interior minister is stronger 10 times your isaaq deputy. hawadle PM will act strongly but isaaq pm cant. we have been offered to the speaker but bc of hiirshabelle we ignored it. your bragging about a man whos is a murursade deputy kkkk hawiye even took your FM paper post. this is how al shabaab minister started shitting himself when goodax threatened him" in uu luuqa ka raadsan doono" he was forced to appologize kkkk


he was forced to release statement and apologize kk niyow aamus koobfur maataa ka tihiine. wasiirka amnigaa jeejeexay warqad dirta koonfur ka so qorteen deputygiina oo amisom kabxableey lagu geeynayay kkkk

get the fuck out of my way you confused unionist!

and this al qaida terrorist godane was killed on information provided by sanbalolshe. this terrorist group is over.

No need for essays...who is stronger enforcer your al Shabab Suldaan or Abdi Ahmed Godane?

[xiimaaya]

What's Sahal saying guys?

I need someone to summarise his essays.

Thanks.

I hope he is not saying Isaaq have no chance but his Hawadle does because even in al Shabab Isaaq Emir selected the committee while here al Shabab appoint Hawadle suldaans as mere followers.

kkkkk niyahow waa igu walatey. hawadle already rule in jowhar whats different between jowhar and xamar? security or interior minister is stronger 10 times your isaaq deputy. hawadle PM will act strongly but isaaq pm cant. we have been offered to the speaker but bc of hiirshabelle we ignored it. your bragging about a man whos is a murursade deputy kkkk hawiye even took your FM paper post. this is how al shabaab minister started shitting himself when goodax threatened him" in uu luuqa ka raadsan doono" he was forced to appologize kkkk


he was forced to release statement and apologize kk niyow aamus koobfur maataa ka tihiine. wasiirka amnigaa jeejeexay warqad dirta koonfur ka so qorteen deputygiina oo amisom kabxableey lagu geeynayay kkkk

get the fuck out of my way you confused unionist!

and this al qaida terrorist godane was killed on information provided by sanbalolshe. this terrorist group is over.

No need for essays...who is stronger enforcer your al Shabab Suldaan or Abdi Ahmed Godane?

How can godane be enforcer from the grave?