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Re: Demographic bomb called illegal Oromo immigrants

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Canuck2 wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:47 pm
Adali wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:18 pm
Canuck2 wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:11 am

No nothing will change, they will play us against each, and we will kill each to get their approval (seems familiar our stooges are doing the same now). Better to send them away the illegal.
my friend, clans will do what it takes to be a step above the clans next to them, even if it means selling out core elements of their identity including their language, culture, religion, if it means handing over their resources to foreigners as long as they get a little advantage over the next clan they are happy. You see we are not competing with oromo, arabs, habesha or other foreigners, we are only competing with each other and ultimately the interest of clan A is not to develop and be progressive, but solely to dominate or be better off than clan B, so essentially clan A is happy to do fucked up shit to everyone including themselves because as I said, they are not concerned with the world, their world is only revolving around other Somalis. :lol:

Do not worry!!! Somali clans are opening their eyes slowly, the clans who thought that they are safe and untouched by Ethiopians are waking up to the harsh reality.
Somalis aren't stupid, they are in tune with reality and they do see foreigners as a threat, but the problem is they have accepted foreigners as being a threat that cannot be defeated a constant force that just exist, this is why they focus inwards, and even use this foreign threat against rival clans to get some advantage over them.

The way I see it is the order that existed in Somali inhabited lands prior to nationhood or colonization for that matter, was not ideal, but it worked, if a clan engaged in war with another and won, the losing clan would have no means to beg foreigners with their malicious intent to intervene, so the losing clan was forced to accept reality and work out some settlement, and the winning clan would practice restraint and compassion, the elders would get involved and even though the losing clan might have lost land, wealth or something like this, their lives would continue and their culture, their religion and way of life would not have been infringed upon by foreigners, there would not be a constant state of war and a race to the bottom. There would be peaceful time and people could build up without restriction. When we got nationhood under the kacaan, people were actually free to build their lives, as much as they didn't like the ruling family they had freedoms, today they lack many of those freedoms for this false pride that they are independent from any clan when in reality they all come under much more foreign entities that aren't even Somali or Muslim.
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Re: Demographic bomb called illegal Oromo immigrants

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Canuck2 wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:05 pm
Adali wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:18 pm
Canuck2 wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:11 am

No nothing will change, they will play us against each, and we will kill each to get their approval (seems familiar our stooges are doing the same now). Better to send them away the illegal.
my friend, clans will do what it takes to be a step above the clans next to them, even if it means selling out core elements of their identity including their language, culture, religion, if it means handing over their resources to foreigners as long as they get a little advantage over the next clan they are happy. You see we are not competing with oromo, arabs, habesha or other foreigners, we are only competing with each other and ultimately the interest of clan A is not to develop and be progressive, but solely to dominate or be better off than clan B, so essentially clan A is happy to do fucked up shit to everyone including themselves because as I said, they are not concerned with the world, their world is only revolving around other Somalis. :lol:


These words are written by somalilander journalist who used to defend Oromo and "claimed
" 30% of Somalis were Oromo. Today after massacre, he wrote this article:


For four decades and we blow on partial identities and dancing on regional strings and build conflicting projects and republics and raise different flags until we ended the declaration of the death of nationalism in the case of handing over the heart of the famous abdi kariim we assumed the end of the subject of identity and our answer to the question of nationality and to rid us of the legacy of Siad Bari and the October Of the dream of Somalis-Wen and his passion, and then after all this effort comes the ax of the Oromo to hit the head of one of us and pours all of us indiscriminately. This has proved the ax that targeted that Somali that the closest people to us and our oldest neighbors do not know our new identities and do not recognize them.
Somali is Somali even If he said otherwise, what a failure.
The meeting rose.
May Allah have mercy on our martyrs in this ugly court.
As I said, this lander is basically accepting this foreigner to be some constant that exist outside of his world that he has no control or influence over, so he sides with them when its in his clan rivals are up against them and then doubles back when his clan is affected, all Somalis have overtime become like this.

My idea is basically reversing this mentality. heck many people before us had this issue, but they realised that foreigners are basically nothing when their untie among themselves against the foreigner, I am not saying to be complacent about clan rivalry, however do not engage in a race to the bottom and ally with foreigners against your own brethren, rather ally with your brethren against foreigners, this way you both gain freedom and peace from this foreigners, you gain respect from this foreigners and you might even gain some bounty from this foreigners defeat. At the end of the day Somalis all share common traits, religion, culture, language, these are something you should value, unless you want to become a speaker of another man's language and be marginalized as a second class citizen. So if we accept this and protect our common traits, we should help other clans in their fights against foreigners. As I see it all the big Somali clans are pillars of Somalinimo and if one falls Somalinimo will be weakened ultimately leading to the fall of the rest if we continue to let it happen one by one.
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you are likely a refugee in some western country. who are you to talk about demographic bombs and deportations? Oromo waa bina adem, and mostly muslim. Let them help to build Somalia/Somaliland while you useless skinnies chew jaad and kill each other over tribes.
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MrSinister wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:42 pm you are likely a refugee in some western country. who are you to talk about demographic bombs and deportations? Oromo waa bina adem, and mostly muslim. Let them help to build Somalia/Somaliland while you useless skinnies chew jaad and kill each other over tribes.
Fuck off dirty Oromo. This is our country and we wouldn't allow scumbags like you to live in it.
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Death to all oromo.
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Canuck2 wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:05 pm
MrSinister wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:42 pm you are likely a refugee in some western country. who are you to talk about demographic bombs and deportations? Oromo waa bina adem, and mostly muslim. Let them help to build Somalia/Somaliland while you useless skinnies chew jaad and kill each other over tribes.
Fuck off dirty Oromo. This is our country and we wouldn't allow scumbags like you to live in it.

Yet the Oromo still let thousands of Somalis live peacefully in oromia, and don't forget without Oromo farmers, both Djibouti and Ethiopia would collapse, don't react emotionally but use your brain. You should get mad when liyyu your own somali cousins are not only instigating wars with your neighbors, and being slaves of tigray, they are killing Somalis within Ethiopia who aren't supportive of Abdtigray illey. The liyyu have even on occasion raided Somaliland, Somalia, and sent troops to hunt somalis from Ethiopia who fled to garissa Kenya.
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Waachis wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:26 pm
Canuck2 wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:05 pm
MrSinister wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:42 pm you are likely a refugee in some western country. who are you to talk about demographic bombs and deportations? Oromo waa bina adem, and mostly muslim. Let them help to build Somalia/Somaliland while you useless skinnies chew jaad and kill each other over tribes.
Fuck off dirty Oromo. This is our country and we wouldn't allow scumbags like you to live in it.

Yet the Oromo still let thousands of Somalis live peacefully in oromia, and don't forget without Oromo farmers, both Djibouti and Ethiopia would collapse, don't react emotionally but use your brain. You should get mad when liyyu your own somali cousins are not only instigating wars with your neighbors, and being slaves of tigray, they are killing Somalis within Ethiopia who aren't supportive of Abdtigray illey. The liyyu have even on occasion raided Somaliland, Somalia, and sent troops to hunt somalis from Ethiopia who fled to garissa Kenya.


You are not good at this game, Somalia doesn't need any Oromia fruits and vegetables, south has rich fertile land even in north has very good potential to be agriculture projects. Listen Somalia was self sufficient country in the past and would be like that in future. We don't need Ethiopia.
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Then why are your people dying from hunger daily. I never said Somalia couldn't be self sufficient, but most Somali look down on farmers be honest we know each other very well even if u hate us. Somalis tend to be nomads, like their afar neighbors but are also pastoralists, merchants etc....
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cunuck what with the hyper nationalism , it never got us anywhere under Siad Barre and wont get us anywhere now. even if we disagree with oromos lets keep it civil.
All great nation are open to foreigners and confident on themselves let us be like that.after all what is a oromo except a somali aabo. let them leave in peace and we live in peace as neighbors.their war is against woyaane not us. let them be men ofaction and fight their war in addis abeba.
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cheifaqilbari wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:47 am cunuck what with the hyper nationalism , it never got us anywhere under Siad Barre and wont get us anywhere now. even if we disagree with oromos lets keep it civil.
All great nation are open to foreigners and confident on themselves let us be like that.after all what is a oromo except a somali aabo. let them leave in peace and we live in peace as neighbors.their war is against woyaane not us. let them be men ofaction and fight their war in addis abeba.
They are land grabbers and have expansion agenda confirmed by politicians from Sudan, Kenya and Uganda. Ethiopia is suffering from population explosion and needs to expand on expense of her neighbors.
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Waachis wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:43 pm Then why are your people dying from hunger daily. I never said Somalia couldn't be self sufficient, but most Somali look down on farmers be honest we know each other very well even if u hate us. Somalis tend to be nomads, like their afar neighbors but are also pastoralists, merchants etc....
You proved how ignorant that you are in Somali politics. The issue with Somalia is that we suffer from civil war, poor leadership and consequences of 25 of civil war. But Ethiopians died more than us from famine, currently you had 20 millions suffering from famine in Ethiopia although you are good farmers and have fertile land. I can post pictures of people in addisbaba eating from garbage.
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Canuck2 wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:05 pm
MrSinister wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:42 pm you are likely a refugee in some western country. who are you to talk about demographic bombs and deportations? Oromo waa bina adem, and mostly muslim. Let them help to build Somalia/Somaliland while you useless skinnies chew jaad and kill each other over tribes.
Fuck off dirty Oromo. This is our country and we wouldn't allow scumbags like you to live in it.
if you had a country, you wouldn't be a refugee in the west. you would think living here in the west, one would learn a little about tolerance of others.
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MrSinister wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:55 am
Canuck2 wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:05 pm
MrSinister wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:42 pm you are likely a refugee in some western country. who are you to talk about demographic bombs and deportations? Oromo waa bina adem, and mostly muslim. Let them help to build Somalia/Somaliland while you useless skinnies chew jaad and kill each other over tribes.
Fuck off dirty Oromo. This is our country and we wouldn't allow scumbags like you to live in it.
if you had a country, you wouldn't be a refugee in the west. you would think living here in the west, one would learn a little about tolerance of others.

Oromo have Oromia their own country and we don't want them and their crimes, they are spies to Ethiopian government, they brought human trafficking, begging in streets, sex trade, illegal drugs and alcohol and increased the AIDS in SL. Plus, joining al kebab. We don't want them.
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Canuck2 wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:15 am
Waachis wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:43 pm Then why are your people dying from hunger daily. I never said Somalia couldn't be self sufficient, but most Somali look down on farmers be honest we know each other very well even if u hate us. Somalis tend to be nomads, like their afar neighbors but are also pastoralists, merchants etc....
You proved how ignorant that you are in Somali politics. The issue with Somalia is that we suffer from civil war, poor leadership and consequences of 25 of civil war. But Ethiopians died more than us from famine, currently you had 20 millions suffering from famine in Ethiopia although you are good farmers and have fertile land. I can post pictures of people in addisbaba eating from garbage.
all are excuses. who forced somalis to be terrorists and kill each other like savage animals? are u gonna blame oromos for that too?
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cheifaqilbari wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:47 am cunuck what with the hyper nationalism , it never got us anywhere under Siad Barre and wont get us anywhere now. even if we disagree with oromos lets keep it civil.
All great nation are open to foreigners and confident on themselves let us be like that.after all what is a oromo except a somali aabo. let them leave in peace and we live in peace as neighbors.their war is against woyaane not us. let them be men ofaction and fight their war in addis abeba.
Ok you want us to give up to them and became oppressed in our own country. Never Ahmed Gurey will roll in his grave. Either do free with dignity or live like slave in your own country.
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