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Mindless slaughter of Oromo peasants should not be our goal......rather we must have a clear military/political objective.
To establish the original boundary between us.......the Bale mountains. "From the river to the sea"

Jabuutawi wrote: Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:55 pm No matter how you sugarcoat it, it doesn't change the reality on the ground. Action speak louder than words. Your people are inherently land expansionist at the expense of others including civilizations, read Adal.

We all know what happened in Djibouti yesterday. Illegal aliens without proper paper documents had the audacity to come out en masse (Lord knows where you people hide the rest of the time) and demand justice! The nerve. All the while there is pogrom going on at this very moment in Babile, going after the weakest link of Somalis in Ethiopia, Karanle. We are very accommodating people but Oromos have been emboldened by another hybrid Amhar/Oromo at the leadership. Much like other hybrids like Menelik and Selaisse who emboldened past generations.

Our patience can only go so far. There is such thing as compassion fatigue. Somalis everywhere are giving notice to Oromos to be civil and move back to their land. The alternative is conflagration of the Horn.

Can you people just leave us alone and move out of our lands. We deport you, you come back. This has been happening since Djibouti's independence. Walahi, I'm baffled by this. Oromia is rich in land and resources and yet you keep crossing desert to come to our cities, akin to Mexicans swimming the Rio Grande to get to America. Should we call Oromos 'Dry backs'?

says the issa somali, who openly brags about their clans expansion into oromo/afar lands, up until this day.
somalis openly brag about being the biggest expansionists in east africa; yet cry if others do the same, is that not hypocrisy guys?
it's okay when somalis do it, not only is it okay; it's praiseworthy, but if others do it, how dare they?!
liyyu police forces, are expanding into oromo lands too, per the plans of abdi tigray illey and tplf.
the oromo did what everybody else, conquered lands, it just happens that we conquered some of the best fertile lands in the horn, hence the reason why we get envied and hated upon, by some of our neighbors.

as far as oromos going to djibouti, i do not support it. they should go back home, but what do you want me, as an individual, to do?
pass a fatwa?

original dervish wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:24 am Even if you knew nothing of the political situation.......his unhealthy obsession with Iley should ring alarm bells.
He uses Illey as euphemism for Somali's.......what he is doing is low key inciting hatred/violence against Somali's.
While at the same time attempting to keep Somali's divided over Illey.
Most Somali's despise Illey however, we need the organised militia to be prepared for the eventual conflict with Oromo.
PS Somali's should have a stated goal of establishing the border of Oromia/Somali region in the Bale moutains, from where the Juba/Shabelle rivers originate............."From the river to the sea".....should be our slogan.

like it or not, abdi is going to face justice. his record on human rights abuses, is enough to put him away for decades.
human rights watch just released a report on the situation in the somali region, which exposed the oppression of abdi's regime.
funny how you claim to love somalis, yet do not care as their women get their throats slit, raped, and the men killed, tortured, etc.
had abdi been that good for his own people, there wouldn't be somalis fleeing, nor would there be somali elders meeting the PM asking for help.
you don't have to like oromos, you can even wish us all the evil you want, but it won't change the fact that abdi is a madman, installed by tplf, to further the interests of tigrayan elites, up until today. he didn't get there based on merit, nor did he get there because the somalis wanted him or voted for him. had that been the case, i would not even be commenting on him.
if i wanted to say something against somalis, i'd say it directly, no subliminal, for I only fear Allah, not the sons/daughters of adam.
equating abdi to all somalis, is like equating haile selassie to all amharas, siad barre to all darood, and so on, so forth: it's not just, correct, etc...

Jabuutawi wrote: Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:55 pm No matter how you sugarcoat it, it doesn't change the reality on the ground. Action speak louder than words. Your people are inherently land expansionist at the expense of others including civilizations, read Adal.

We all know what happened in Djibouti yesterday. Illegal aliens without proper paper documents had the audacity to come out en masse (Lord knows where you people hide the rest of the time) and demand justice! The nerve. All the while there is pogrom going on at this very moment in Babile, going after the weakest link of Somalis in Ethiopia, Karanle. We are very accommodating people but Oromos have been emboldened by another hybrid Amhar/Oromo at the leadership. Much like other hybrids like Menelik and Selaisse who emboldened past generations.

Our patience can only go so far. There is such thing as compassion fatigue. Somalis everywhere are giving notice to Oromos to be civil and move back to their land. The alternative is conflagration of the Horn.

Can you people just leave us alone and move out of our lands. We deport you, you come back. This has been happening since Djibouti's independence. Walahi, I'm baffled by this. Oromia is rich in land and resources and yet you keep crossing desert to come to our cities, akin to Mexicans swimming the Rio Grande to get to America. Should we call Oromos 'Dry backs'?

We are not expanding into any land. If the Jarso decide they want to be with the Oromo brethren, shouldn’t they have hat right? Just the way the Hawiye, and other dir amongst us have the right to chose the be with the Somalis.

People are getting angry with no knowledge as to what is actually going on. There is a border war going on between Liyyu and Oromia state police. Jimma San is getting hit very hard. The reason Oromia state police is there is because the town is under Oromia jurisdiction, not ddsi. Liyyu have no right here. If Oromia state police move out of their jurisdiction, Liyyu have every right to defend, common sense.

This is not civilian vs civilian, it’s state police and their corrupt leaders causing chaos. There is no assistance or help from the government for either side of the border, civilians are dying by the day.

We have plenty of land that’s is sufficient enough for us, why do we need yours? It’s not a thing we want. Oromos are farmers, we farm in our land given to us by father etc for generations. We are no longer nomads looking for better land for our livestock. We’re settled farmers. If you voted to leave ddsi as the Jarso, wouldn’t you fight back if the Liyyu came and attacked you?

You have your land, we have ours.. let’s keep it this way.

The Oromos living in Jabuuti for the most part have been there since the 70s/80s. I have relatives that have been there and only speak Somali/Arabic/French. They escaped the regime of Haile Salasie, Mengistu, and Meles. The majority of them are from eastern Hararge, and good chunk from Dire Dhawa. The reason they felt going to Jabuuti was because the lived in peace with the Issa in DD and surrounding, and looked as you as their brethren. There was never any negative vibes towards Somalis in the past, Oromos truly respected and loved them. Today it’s a little harder with politics.

At the end of the day, we don’t want your land, and never have. Most the people you’d meet only wish for the freedom of Oromos. They don’t want to harm others. Don’t get me wrong we all have those amongst us screwing things up for ye rest, and destroying our names, bu you can’t blame the entire population for that small percentage. That’s like the west hating on Muslims for the few cowards who claims to be Muslim and terrorizing others.

I’m sure many want to leave and go home, but many also have fear returning. A lot of the people who left in the 70s&80s were supporters of the OLF. My dad is one of them, and he hasn’t returned in over 40 years. It isn’t easy, most people try to get to the west from there. There are some sponsorship programs for those in Djibouti and SL. They don’t go to stay and take over. They just want to leave the HOA and use the route for exit.

Abdi Ileey must be punished so as to send a signal to his successor that similar abuses will not be tolerated. It’s not a Somali or Oromo issue but a human one

AbdiWahab252 wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:31 pm Abdi Ileey must be punished so as to send a signal to his successor that similar abuses will not be tolerated. It’s not a Somali or Oromo issue but a human one

Typical Hutu mentality!, Whether Abdi goes or stays the Oromo threat against Somali civilians ( specially Hag) would still be there. It is HAGs in Ethiopia that are facing the daily butchering. Issa have Djbouti backing, OG have enough man/fire-power to quell the oromo advances. It is Karanle, and Gurgura those facing the brunt of it. Abdi had been surpressing his clan, but he gave shelter to the fled Hagites, and you should thank for that.
Don't let hatred of certain Qabiils blinds you, this matter is more than reer hebel and reer hebel. mark my word you may see what shall happen had the Oromo got their way.

zidane88 wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:56 pm

AbdiWahab252 wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:31 pm Abdi Ileey must be punished so as to send a signal to his successor that similar abuses will not be tolerated. It’s not a Somali or Oromo issue but a human one

Typical Hutu mentality!, Whether Abdi goes or stays the Oromo threat against Somali civilians ( specially Hag) would still be there. It is HAGs in Ethiopia that are facing the daily butchering. Issa have Djbouti backing, OG have enough man/fire-power to quell the oromo advances. It is Karanle, and Gurgura those facing the brunt of it. Abdi had been surpressing his clan, but he gave shelter to the fled Hagites, and you should thank for that.
Don't let hatred of certain Qabiils blinds you, this matter is more than reer hebel and reer hebel. mark my word you may see what shall happen had the Oromo got their way.

When have the Gurgura been attacked? No one is attacking them. And last I checked the Karanle and others in Babille are getting attacked by the Liyyu.

Don’t forge the story. It’s not a Somali vs Oromo fight. You can hate us all you like that is fine. Keep your borders in line that is fine. Have the decency to at least be honest about what is going on. If he Liyyu never entered Oromia, nothing would have happened on either side.

Majority of the attacks are from Liyyu arms. Hararge Oromos are suffering a lot. Trust me, no one wants your land.

zidane88 wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:56 pm

AbdiWahab252 wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:31 pm Abdi Ileey must be punished so as to send a signal to his successor that similar abuses will not be tolerated. It’s not a Somali or Oromo issue but a human one

Typical Hutu mentality!, Whether Abdi goes or stays the Oromo threat against Somali civilians ( specially Hag) would still be there. It is HAGs in Ethiopia that are facing the daily butchering. Issa have Djbouti backing, OG have enough man/fire-power to quell the oromo advances. It is Karanle, and Gurgura those facing the brunt of it. Abdi had been surpressing his clan, but he gave shelter to the fled Hagites, and you should thank for that.
Don't let hatred of certain Qabiils blinds you, this matter is more than reer hebel and reer hebel. mark my word you may see what shall happen had the Oromo got their way.

more propaganda, to support your tyrant friend abdi illey. you sound like the tplf cyber cadres.
did u not miss that, the tplf recently got mad and walked out of a heated meeting, because somali elders, unlike u, refused to sell out their people and morals and accept their cash bribe to support abdi tigray illey?
if anything, abdi made any lingering beef/issues between oromo/somali, even worse, by siding with the tplf against the oromo, who otherwise, would not bother a single somali, had they not been provoked first.

You can twist and turn all you want. here is proof Oromo civilians denying that they ever share a border with Somalis.

Your obsession with Abdi is clearly a sign of sinister agenda, I don't care whether he stays or goes, but I won't let you mislead the unsuspecting Somalis here. The matter at hand is more than Abdi.

Waachis wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:26 pm

zidane88 wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:56 pm

AbdiWahab252 wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:31 pm Abdi Ileey must be punished so as to send a signal to his successor that similar abuses will not be tolerated. It’s not a Somali or Oromo issue but a human one

Typical Hutu mentality!, Whether Abdi goes or stays the Oromo threat against Somali civilians ( specially Hag) would still be there. It is HAGs in Ethiopia that are facing the daily butchering. Issa have Djbouti backing, OG have enough man/fire-power to quell the oromo advances. It is Karanle, and Gurgura those facing the brunt of it. Abdi had been surpressing his clan, but he gave shelter to the fled Hagites, and you should thank for that.
Don't let hatred of certain Qabiils blinds you, this matter is more than reer hebel and reer hebel. mark my word you may see what shall happen had the Oromo got their way.

more propaganda, to support your tyrant friend abdi illey. you sound like the tplf cyber cadres.
did u not miss that, the tplf recently got mad and walked out of a heated meeting, because somali elders, unlike u, refused to sell out their people and morals and accept their cash bribe to support abdi tigray illey?
if anything, abdi made any lingering beef/issues between oromo/somali, even worse, by siding with the tplf against the oromo, who otherwise, would not bother a single somali, had they not been provoked first.

Stop wasting your time with you ilay propaganda. At the end of the day he is Somali and we will support him even in wrong against foreigners. We are ready for all out war if the oromo want it.

Rivaldo75 wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:31 pm

Waachis wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:26 pm

zidane88 wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:56 pm
Typical Hutu mentality!, Whether Abdi goes or stays the Oromo threat against Somali civilians ( specially Hag) would still be there. It is HAGs in Ethiopia that are facing the daily butchering. Issa have Djbouti backing, OG have enough man/fire-power to quell the oromo advances. It is Karanle, and Gurgura those facing the brunt of it. Abdi had been surpressing his clan, but he gave shelter to the fled Hagites, and you should thank for that.
Don't let hatred of certain Qabiils blinds you, this matter is more than reer hebel and reer hebel. mark my word you may see what shall happen had the Oromo got their way.

more propaganda, to support your tyrant friend abdi illey. you sound like the tplf cyber cadres.
did u not miss that, the tplf recently got mad and walked out of a heated meeting, because somali elders, unlike u, refused to sell out their people and morals and accept their cash bribe to support abdi tigray illey?
if anything, abdi made any lingering beef/issues between oromo/somali, even worse, by siding with the tplf against the oromo, who otherwise, would not bother a single somali, had they not been provoked first.

Stop wasting your time with you ilay propaganda. At the end of the day he is Somali and we will support him even in wrong against foreigners. We are ready for all out war if the oromo want it.

do not worry, you will witness abdi face justice, and then we'll see if you dare try to do something about it.
i don't give a damn what he is-he's a criminal with the blood of many innocents on his hands-including mothers and children-and he will get what he deserves-InshaaAllah.
oromos do not want war with anyone-but we are going to get rid of abdi illey, whether u like it or not, and then after that, the somalis will choose their leader with no interference or intimidation!

zidane88 wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:30 pm Your obsession with Abdi is clearly a sign of sinister agenda, I don't care whether he stays or goes, but I won't let you mislead the unsuspecting Somalis here. The matter at hand is more than Abdi.

I have no idea what is said in the videos, please translate.

When have we not shared a border? What are you talking about. We have the largest border amongst anyone else in the region.

Abdi is a stoge nothing more. He’s a lapdog for TPLF, and everyone knows this. The issue here is bigger, innocent people are dying for a cause that doesn’t exist. It was written on paper yesterday, and is occurring today.

I’m not talking about him, I’m talking about the incident and who is getting attacked. I can proudly say I hate and want nothing to do with lemma the way I do Abdi. They’re nothing but political dogs.

Sout8ere, the woman is speaking clear afan Oromo saying: "we don't share border with Somalis, but Afars" the rest they talking about how an organised Qeeroo youth with weapons poured into the area, and started killing and looting.

zidane88 wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:43 pm Sout8ere, the woman is speaking clear afan Oromo saying: "we don't share border with Somalis, but Afars" the rest they talking about how an organised Qeeroo youth with weapons poured into the area, and started killing and looting.

That’s not enough for you to determine we believe this. She’s one person, and I don’t know what else she says. You’d need to listen to he full interview.

Hearing her say they border the Afar tells me she is from Miesso. Which would me she is Ittu, and they’ve had on and off issue with the Issa and Hawiye in the area. Her and her clan does not represent the opinion of all Oromos.

That’s like me calling out an blaming all Somalis because of the Liyyu. That’s just ridiculous. The liyu are a small percentage and don’t represent Somalis as a whole.

Again most people in both side are blaiming the entire population for the action of a few. Oromos are blaimsjng Somali, Somalis are blaiming Oromos.

I’ll admit we have our flaws and huge issue with our state police on both sides. But again, it is not Somali vs Oromo.

The ignorance on some will cause a larger problem in the future if it’s not corrected now.