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Django wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:40 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:34 pm
Voltage wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:14 pm

Django THIS is the game Madoobe played. He used every strategy to disarm Marehan and then bring them to the table. He used reer Diini vs. non reer Diini. He used galti (new migrants) vs. guri (older migrants). He used north Gedo vs. south Gedo. Even reer Diini he used bah-Xawaadle vs. bah-Ogaadeen!

Saddam is the biggest anti-Madoobe guy here but his reer Hassan Ugaas is the biggest Madoobe supporter among the Marehan salaadiin!

Madoobe did his part. He put recognition to the State as is.

We have to move to the next stage now sxb!

We needs hospitals refurbished, build roads, bring big business to Kismaayo port, work on farmland, etc!
I detest Madobe for the simple fact he divided my clan against each other in the same time united his! That shows his level of fear and lack of respect for MX in general. I'm same the jiffo hoose as The Ugaas after Reer Yusuf. But I still oppose Madobe and his heavy handedness approach and his breaking of dhaqanka sojiran for Ugaas Xashi. It created colaad between brothers. A united Beesha can move mountains. Ahmed Mohamed Islam knew that!
Maxamed siyab barre used to do the same too for 21 years.
Hiraale did it too
You also have been in the record trying to divide ogaden so why complain.

Werent you the one that claimed Ogaden only live in Afmadow in Juboyinka but apparently you are for reer diini Cawliyahan alliance as Cawliyahan is the majority Ogaden in juboyinka.
So following your logic its self conflicting because
Afmadow is predominantly MZ so if Ogaden live only in Afmadow where do Cawliyahan live.
I'm for Cawlyahan- Reer Xassan alliance. I want to keep out Reer Diini and MZ out of power. They used the name of Ogaden and MX too much. I would support Ahmed Islam if he wasn't so corrupt and in the pocket of Kenyans. MZ and Reer Xassan are allies due to Waqmahadse being Reer Itoobiya. But I prefer
Cawlyahan because we are Reer Guri and Waamo. My jiffo hoose is the majority in Gedo and JL.
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Re: Kismaayo officially changing from Kenyan To Ethiopian Control

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Django wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:40 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:34 pm
Voltage wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:14 pm

Django THIS is the game Madoobe played. He used every strategy to disarm Marehan and then bring them to the table. He used reer Diini vs. non reer Diini. He used galti (new migrants) vs. guri (older migrants). He used north Gedo vs. south Gedo. Even reer Diini he used bah-Xawaadle vs. bah-Ogaadeen!

Saddam is the biggest anti-Madoobe guy here but his reer Hassan Ugaas is the biggest Madoobe supporter among the Marehan salaadiin!

Madoobe did his part. He put recognition to the State as is.

We have to move to the next stage now sxb!

We needs hospitals refurbished, build roads, bring big business to Kismaayo port, work on farmland, etc!
I detest Madobe for the simple fact he divided my clan against each other in the same time united his! That shows his level of fear and lack of respect for MX in general. I'm same the jiffo hoose as The Ugaas after Reer Yusuf. But I still oppose Madobe and his heavy handedness approach and his breaking of dhaqanka sojiran for Ugaas Xashi. It created colaad between brothers. A united Beesha can move mountains. Ahmed Mohamed Islam knew that!
Maxamed siyab barre used to do the same too for 21 years.
Hiraale did it too
You also have been in the record trying to divide ogaden so why complain.

Werent you the one that claimed Ogaden only live in Afmadow in Juboyinka but apparently you are for reer diini Cawliyahan alliance as Cawliyahan is the majority Ogaden in juboyinka.
So following your logic its self conflicting because
Afmadow is predominantly MZ so if Ogaden live only in Afmadow where do Cawliyahan live.
Afmadoow and Badhaadhe are the only places you live in Somalia sxb and both are smaller than even Garbahaaray which ONLY my reer Siyaad of reer Diini live (mostly reer Cigaal Siyaad).

Cawlyahan live in Bu'aale with Bartire; BOTH of whom would rather share with Marehan than Mohamed Subeer.

Sxb we know each other, you aren't talking to Sahal here, ma been baa?
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Re: Kismaayo officially changing from Kenyan To Ethiopian Control

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ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:48 pm
Django wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:40 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:34 pm

I detest Madobe for the simple fact he divided my clan against each other in the same time united his! That shows his level of fear and lack of respect for MX in general. I'm same the jiffo hoose as The Ugaas after Reer Yusuf. But I still oppose Madobe and his heavy handedness approach and his breaking of dhaqanka sojiran for Ugaas Xashi. It created colaad between brothers. A united Beesha can move mountains. Ahmed Mohamed Islam knew that!
Maxamed siyab barre used to do the same too for 21 years.
Hiraale did it too
You also have been in the record trying to divide ogaden so why complain.

Werent you the one that claimed Ogaden only live in Afmadow in Juboyinka but apparently you are for reer diini Cawliyahan alliance as Cawliyahan is the majority Ogaden in juboyinka.
So following your logic its self conflicting because
Afmadow is predominantly MZ so if Ogaden live only in Afmadow where do Cawliyahan live.
I'm for Cawlyahan- Reer Xassan alliance. I want to keep out Reer Diini and MZ out of power. They used the name of Ogaden and MX too much. I would support Ahmed Islam if he wasn't so corrupt and in the pocket of Kenyans. MZ and Reer Xassan are allies due to Waqmahadse being Reer Itoobiya. But I prefer
Cawlyahan because we are Reer Guri and Waamo. My jiffo hoose is the majority in Gedo and JL.
Saddam edeb daradaan jooji. I told you many times do not fall prey to these old men and their attempts to practice kala qoqobayn for hunger. At the end of the day, what you should be for is Marehan, not juffo. The same Mohamud Sayid Adden in Kismaayo now was in Garbahaaray for years in the middle of reer Diini speaking for and telling all of them what to do. That's because waa nin Marehan ah. Go to Cawlyahan and do that since I have seen you subsist in this rer Diini vs. non-reer Diini argument for a while now
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Voltage wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:29 pm
Django wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:06 pm But for Kismaayo MZ will never relinquish its claim.We will come back to what is ours even if Cascasey introduced you lads to Kismaayo.Its like you compromising on Beled xawo being a shared degaan with Ogaden would you tolerate?Ogaden tolerated Marexan in Kismaayo out of Daroodnimo.But it seems you love to share Kismaayo only with Ceyr.Something that alot of Ogaden fail to understand.
I didn't even see this part, comparing Kismaayo to Mohamed Subeer like Beled-Xaawo to Marehan.

Waryaa, that's the KDF xiniinyo making you speak like that. Don't abuse my reconciliation minded overtures hadii kale you damn well know our stick is always in my other hand.

You used to bring milk to Kismaayo from the baadiye. When has Kismaayo ever been synonymous with MZ? Lo'daada and caano is the most you have known Kismaayo until Cumar Jees got some guns from Caydiid to arm your Joore and your claim began. Even the Cabdalla in Masalani near Gaaris will today say I am from Kismaayo indho adeega

At least the Majeerteen can say they used to live heavily in Kismaayo before the war though they will never admit most of them moved there during the Abdirashiid Ali Shermarke years. However you never see a Majeerteen claiming Kismaayo today for good measure.

I want reconciliation and to move on because I know if reconciliation doesn't happen, even if KDF is there for 100 years in Kismaayo, the day Kenya leaves Marehan will brandish arms and fight AND take over Kismaayo.

If you think Kismaayo to you is like Beled-Xaawo to Marehan, Wallahi oo Billahi Kismaayo to Marehan is Jerusalem to Jews. Even after a 2000 years if KDF is still there, we will always say next EID in Kismaayo and the day the KDF leaves our flag will be flown there like the Jewish flag in Jerusalem after 2000 years.

All this is reconciliation ovetures is so we can BOTH share the city and live and share it with all the other Jubbaland tribes.

Do not abuse that reconciliation overture by trying to say what you said above ever again!
Voltage you are talking about Kismaayo we are discussing about how we can retake Bardhere then we can discuss about the future of JL as equal partners.
There was no marexan MP in Kismaayo from 1960-1991.So do you think that when you folks made exodus en mass when Hiraale took over Kismaayo that the fate of Kismaayo would be sealed forever.You folks cleansed everyone and even moved entire families from dhusamareeb and Galgadud.You made lives of other non marexan in Kismaayo so unbearable under Hiraale.thanks to Ceyr.

You are koyte in Kismaayo Cascasey MSB brother wgo was a xamali in the ports of Kismaayo was among the first marexan to settle there he was awarded the contract to sell govt produce from the port and it was in the 70s that he tried to sanction Ogaden by denying to sell them produce which he had monopoly.He would tell them to go to Afmadow.He got a proper beating from an Ogaden colonel for that and MSB intervened each time to save him.Cascasey stole unlaayes plot and built the hotel in Cascasey.
Axmed Cumar jess stopped MSB dream of trying to settle marexan in Juboyinka by displacing Ogaden or do you think Axmed Cumar jess mutiny against MSB was just a play.How could he serve a govt that was massacring his people.

Marexan do not settle in lower jubba.You also do not bring milk to Kismaayo alone.Its not that different from Marexan settling in Mombasa or Nairobi and bringing milk to its residents.
If marexan had degaan in around Kismaayo It would have been documented each time Hiraale was being defeated.The nearest stop used to be in Bardheere.I dont think Madhoobe would have a chance in Kismaayo if marexan lived in the outskirts of Kismaayo.
So your claim is baseless and just an extension of MSB ambition and dream.
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Django wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:01 pm
Voltage wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:29 pm
Django wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:06 pm But for Kismaayo MZ will never relinquish its claim.We will come back to what is ours even if Cascasey introduced you lads to Kismaayo.Its like you compromising on Beled xawo being a shared degaan with Ogaden would you tolerate?Ogaden tolerated Marexan in Kismaayo out of Daroodnimo.But it seems you love to share Kismaayo only with Ceyr.Something that alot of Ogaden fail to understand.
I didn't even see this part, comparing Kismaayo to Mohamed Subeer like Beled-Xaawo to Marehan.

Waryaa, that's the KDF xiniinyo making you speak like that. Don't abuse my reconciliation minded overtures hadii kale you damn well know our stick is always in my other hand.

You used to bring milk to Kismaayo from the baadiye. When has Kismaayo ever been synonymous with MZ? Lo'daada and caano is the most you have known Kismaayo until Cumar Jees got some guns from Caydiid to arm your Joore and your claim began. Even the Cabdalla in Masalani near Gaaris will today say I am from Kismaayo indho adeega

At least the Majeerteen can say they used to live heavily in Kismaayo before the war though they will never admit most of them moved there during the Abdirashiid Ali Shermarke years. However you never see a Majeerteen claiming Kismaayo today for good measure.

I want reconciliation and to move on because I know if reconciliation doesn't happen, even if KDF is there for 100 years in Kismaayo, the day Kenya leaves Marehan will brandish arms and fight AND take over Kismaayo.

If you think Kismaayo to you is like Beled-Xaawo to Marehan, Wallahi oo Billahi Kismaayo to Marehan is Jerusalem to Jews. Even after a 2000 years if KDF is still there, we will always say next EID in Kismaayo and the day the KDF leaves our flag will be flown there like the Jewish flag in Jerusalem after 2000 years.

All this is reconciliation ovetures is so we can BOTH share the city and live and share it with all the other Jubbaland tribes.

Do not abuse that reconciliation overture by trying to say what you said above ever again!
Voltage you are talking about Kismaayo we are discussing about how we can retake Bardhere then we can discuss about the future of JL as equal partners.
There was no marexan MP in Kismaayo from 1960-1991.So do you think that when you folks made exodus en mass when Hiraale took over Kismaayo that the fate of Kismaayo would be sealed forever.You folks cleansed everyone and even moved entire families from dhusamareeb and Galgadud.You made lives of other non marexan in Kismaayo so unbearable under Hiraale.thanks to Ceyr.

You are koyte in Kismaayo Cascasey MSB brother wgo was a xamali in the ports of Kismaayo was among the first marexan to settle there he was awarded the contract to sell govt produce from the port and it was in the 70s that he tried to sanction Ogaden by denying to sell them produce which he had monopoly.He would tell them to go to Afmadow.He got a proper beating from an Ogaden colonel for that and MSB intervened each time to save him.Cascasey stole unlaayes plot and built the hotel in Cascasey.
Axmed Cumar jess stopped MSB dream of trying to settle marexan in Juboyinka by displacing Ogaden or do you think Axmed Cumar jess mutiny against MSB was just a play.How could he serve a govt that was massacring his people.

Marexan do not settle in lower jubba.You also do not bring milk to Kismaayo alone.Its not that different from Marexan settling in Mombasa or Nairobi and bringing milk to its residents.
If marexan had degaan in around Kismaayo It would have been documented each time Hiraale was being defeated.The nearest stop used to be in Bardheere.I dont think Madhoobe would have a chance in Kismaayo if marexan lived in the outskirts of Kismaayo.
So your claim is baseless and just an extension of MSB ambition and dream.
These are fighting words sxb and it seems reconciliation is not what you desire but conquer.

Sxb, no one practices conquer better than Marehan. And since it is fighting you want, Marehan has never shied away from open battle

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Voltage wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:58 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:48 pm
Django wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:40 pm
Maxamed siyab barre used to do the same too for 21 years.
Hiraale did it too
You also have been in the record trying to divide ogaden so why complain.

Werent you the one that claimed Ogaden only live in Afmadow in Juboyinka but apparently you are for reer diini Cawliyahan alliance as Cawliyahan is the majority Ogaden in juboyinka.
So following your logic its self conflicting because
Afmadow is predominantly MZ so if Ogaden live only in Afmadow where do Cawliyahan live.
I'm for Cawlyahan- Reer Xassan alliance. I want to keep out Reer Diini and MZ out of power. They used the name of Ogaden and MX too much. I would support Ahmed Islam if he wasn't so corrupt and in the pocket of Kenyans. MZ and Reer Xassan are allies due to Waqmahadse being Reer Itoobiya. But I prefer
Cawlyahan because we are Reer Guri and Waamo. My jiffo hoose is the majority in Gedo and JL.
Saddam edeb daradaan jooji. I told you many times do not fall prey to these old men and their attempts to practice kala qoqobayn for hunger. At the end of the day, what you should be for is Marehan, not juffo. The same Mohamud Sayid Adden in Kismaayo now was in Garbahaaray for years in the middle of reer Diini speaking for and telling all of them what to do. That's because waa nin Marehan ah. Go to Cawlyahan and do that since I have seen you subsist in this rer Diini vs. non-reer Diini argument for a while now
I'm for MX unity. I have my reasons why I feel this way. I won't discuss openly here. I don't support Ina Sayid. He's a nacas. And la hayaste.
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Voltage wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:52 pm
Django wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:40 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:34 pm

I detest Madobe for the simple fact he divided my clan against each other in the same time united his! That shows his level of fear and lack of respect for MX in general. I'm same the jiffo hoose as The Ugaas after Reer Yusuf. But I still oppose Madobe and his heavy handedness approach and his breaking of dhaqanka sojiran for Ugaas Xashi. It created colaad between brothers. A united Beesha can move mountains. Ahmed Mohamed Islam knew that!
Maxamed siyab barre used to do the same too for 21 years.
Hiraale did it too
You also have been in the record trying to divide ogaden so why complain.

Werent you the one that claimed Ogaden only live in Afmadow in Juboyinka but apparently you are for reer diini Cawliyahan alliance as Cawliyahan is the majority Ogaden in juboyinka.
So following your logic its self conflicting because
Afmadow is predominantly MZ so if Ogaden live only in Afmadow where do Cawliyahan live.
Afmadoow and Badhaadhe are the only places you live in Somalia sxb and both are smaller than even Garbahaaray which ONLY my reer Siyaad of reer Diini live (mostly reer Cigaal Siyaad).

Cawlyahan live in Bu'aale with Bartire; BOTH of whom would rather share with Marehan than Mohamed Subeer.

Sxb we know each other, you aren't talking to Sahal here, ma been baa?
Saxib what you wrote is wishful thinking.

Sharing is an alien word to marexan but stealing is a common word.
Ogaden live in most of the districts in Lower Jubba including Kismaayo.
They also live in middle Jubba and Gedo too.

If you realy love Cawliyahan why not give them back their lands and farms that MSB took from them and settled you.
Bardheere,Fafaxduun etc Cawliyahan used to settle in Half of Gedo before MSB used his power to settle marexan by force and displace Cawiyahan.

No MZ settles in Cawliyahan clan.

Also Marexan are inhospitable people they took Garbaharey and bula xaawo from Garreh, and luq from Dir thanks to MSB you settled comfortably in them committing atteocities.

Under JVA for 9 years dis you share anything with Cawliyahan,Bartire,Garreh,Galjecel,Sheikhal etc.

Where do Ceyr reside in Juboyinka that you had to create an alliance with long even after Morgan left the scenario.

Why do you keep using KDF are you folks AS?Madhoobe whooped your ass in Buaale where was you xiniyo?Its the same Mdhoobe that whoooed your ass in Kismaayo.

If marexan had power you wouldnt wait for xamar to rescue you using macag dawlad but you would start a jabhad in Jubbaland are reclaim what is yours.All you are left is booto.HG have taken most of your land in gobolada dhexe yet the same cowards like mmaking threats.
Saxib you are the weakest link.Didnt you folks say you will capture Buale from Bardheere and hold eldctions there so what happened even with Ethiopian muscle you couldnt.
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ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:09 pm
Voltage wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:58 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:48 pm

I'm for Cawlyahan- Reer Xassan alliance. I want to keep out Reer Diini and MZ out of power. They used the name of Ogaden and MX too much. I would support Ahmed Islam if he wasn't so corrupt and in the pocket of Kenyans. MZ and Reer Xassan are allies due to Waqmahadse being Reer Itoobiya. But I prefer
Cawlyahan because we are Reer Guri and Waamo. My jiffo hoose is the majority in Gedo and JL.
Saddam edeb daradaan jooji. I told you many times do not fall prey to these old men and their attempts to practice kala qoqobayn for hunger. At the end of the day, what you should be for is Marehan, not juffo. The same Mohamud Sayid Adden in Kismaayo now was in Garbahaaray for years in the middle of reer Diini speaking for and telling all of them what to do. That's because waa nin Marehan ah. Go to Cawlyahan and do that since I have seen you subsist in this rer Diini vs. non-reer Diini argument for a while now
I'm for MX unity. I have my reasons why I feel this way. I won't discuss openly here. I don't support Ina Sayid. He's a nacas. And la hayaste.
Marexan was always united reer diini being on the leadership role.what you folks are missing is Ceyr.Apparently they belong to HG clan so do you want to hire them for a day or a month?
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Django wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:21 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:09 pm
Voltage wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:58 pm

Saddam edeb daradaan jooji. I told you many times do not fall prey to these old men and their attempts to practice kala qoqobayn for hunger. At the end of the day, what you should be for is Marehan, not juffo. The same Mohamud Sayid Adden in Kismaayo now was in Garbahaaray for years in the middle of reer Diini speaking for and telling all of them what to do. That's because waa nin Marehan ah. Go to Cawlyahan and do that since I have seen you subsist in this rer Diini vs. non-reer Diini argument for a while now
I'm for MX unity. I have my reasons why I feel this way. I won't discuss openly here. I don't support Ina Sayid. He's a nacas. And la hayaste.
Marexan was always united reer diini being on the leadership role.what you folks are missing is Ceyr.Apparently they belong to HG clan so do you want to hire them for a day or a month?
Reer Diini is our head and always will be. That's isn't why we are fighting.

You are unrealistic and qabiiliste to the core. You do think we are other Somali clans in DDSi that you bully? We made you into a power that scared Ethiopia. We aren't a clan to be disrespected lightly. Negotiate or we'll fight for a hundred years. Sade is for peace, MX is for war Ina adeer. You pick your poison.
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Voltage wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:04 pm
Django wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:01 pm
Voltage wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:29 pm

I didn't even see this part, comparing Kismaayo to Mohamed Subeer like Beled-Xaawo to Marehan.

Waryaa, that's the KDF xiniinyo making you speak like that. Don't abuse my reconciliation minded overtures hadii kale you damn well know our stick is always in my other hand.

You used to bring milk to Kismaayo from the baadiye. When has Kismaayo ever been synonymous with MZ? Lo'daada and caano is the most you have known Kismaayo until Cumar Jees got some guns from Caydiid to arm your Joore and your claim began. Even the Cabdalla in Masalani near Gaaris will today say I am from Kismaayo indho adeega

At least the Majeerteen can say they used to live heavily in Kismaayo before the war though they will never admit most of them moved there during the Abdirashiid Ali Shermarke years. However you never see a Majeerteen claiming Kismaayo today for good measure.

I want reconciliation and to move on because I know if reconciliation doesn't happen, even if KDF is there for 100 years in Kismaayo, the day Kenya leaves Marehan will brandish arms and fight AND take over Kismaayo.

If you think Kismaayo to you is like Beled-Xaawo to Marehan, Wallahi oo Billahi Kismaayo to Marehan is Jerusalem to Jews. Even after a 2000 years if KDF is still there, we will always say next EID in Kismaayo and the day the KDF leaves our flag will be flown there like the Jewish flag in Jerusalem after 2000 years.

All this is reconciliation ovetures is so we can BOTH share the city and live and share it with all the other Jubbaland tribes.

Do not abuse that reconciliation overture by trying to say what you said above ever again!
Voltage you are talking about Kismaayo we are discussing about how we can retake Bardhere then we can discuss about the future of JL as equal partners.
There was no marexan MP in Kismaayo from 1960-1991.So do you think that when you folks made exodus en mass when Hiraale took over Kismaayo that the fate of Kismaayo would be sealed forever.You folks cleansed everyone and even moved entire families from dhusamareeb and Galgadud.You made lives of other non marexan in Kismaayo so unbearable under Hiraale.thanks to Ceyr.

You are koyte in Kismaayo Cascasey MSB brother wgo was a xamali in the ports of Kismaayo was among the first marexan to settle there he was awarded the contract to sell govt produce from the port and it was in the 70s that he tried to sanction Ogaden by denying to sell them produce which he had monopoly.He would tell them to go to Afmadow.He got a proper beating from an Ogaden colonel for that and MSB intervened each time to save him.Cascasey stole unlaayes plot and built the hotel in Cascasey.
Axmed Cumar jess stopped MSB dream of trying to settle marexan in Juboyinka by displacing Ogaden or do you think Axmed Cumar jess mutiny against MSB was just a play.How could he serve a govt that was massacring his people.

Marexan do not settle in lower jubba.You also do not bring milk to Kismaayo alone.Its not that different from Marexan settling in Mombasa or Nairobi and bringing milk to its residents.
If marexan had degaan in around Kismaayo It would have been documented each time Hiraale was being defeated.The nearest stop used to be in Bardheere.I dont think Madhoobe would have a chance in Kismaayo if marexan lived in the outskirts of Kismaayo.
So your claim is baseless and just an extension of MSB ambition and dream.
These are fighting words sxb and it seems reconciliation is not what you desire but conquer.

Sxb, no one practices conquer better than Marehan. And since it is fighting you want, Marehan has never shied away from open battle

Waxaad ka hesho hala arko.
Marexan reer mudug are the weakest link they left Shilaabo degmos and most of their mudug settlements to Ceyr.The excuse is we found better lands in Gedo but the reality is the bullet forced you to look for refuuge

If marexan are brave you should have created a guarille warfare against KDF and Madhoobe.Just like Ogaden did against Meles.Isaq against MSB and Ceyr against Ethiopians in Xamar.10 year ling wars.
You dont call resistance fighting in Garreh villages in Mandeera with your shiftas ambushing kenyan civilians or police force while the garres civilians pay the price.

Caydiid chased you all the way from Villa Somalia to Beled xaawo to Kenya .Yacni at one time there was no marexan in Somalia.You almost cost the life of MSB before Ogaden sent a helicopter to reacue the old man even though he committed attrocities agaiinst us.

We are the ones with dulqaad we shared with you alot and compromised alot when we have the upperhand.Marexan are not known to compromise anything when you have upper hand.
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ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:28 pm
Django wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:21 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:09 pm

I'm for MX unity. I have my reasons why I feel this way. I won't discuss openly here. I don't support Ina Sayid. He's a nacas. And la hayaste.
Marexan was always united reer diini being on the leadership role.what you folks are missing is Ceyr.Apparently they belong to HG clan so do you want to hire them for a day or a month?
Reer Diini is our head and always will be. That's isn't why we are fighting.

You are unrealistic and qabiiliste to the core. You do think we are other Somali clans in DDSi that you bully? We made you into a power that scared Ethiopia. We aren't a clan to be disrespected lightly. Negotiate or we'll fight for a hundred years. Sade is for peace, MX is for war Ina adeer. You pick your poison.
Dude qabileste ah do you see me planning to invade dusamareeb or Beled xaawo?
Do you think we have a communal land ownership policy with marexan?we are not Sade we are Kablalax at least if Harti would claim communal land ownership rights with us because we are closest to each other.But Every clan has its own territoey there is no new land found un occupied after 1960 somalia independence.There is xudud.There was no Gedo before MSB.Bardheere was prediminantly Cawliyahan and Raxaweyn.Lower jubba haba ka hadlin.
Unfortunatly we are not as generoua or as forgiving as Our cawliyahan brethrens.
Mark my words Marexan will never have authority in Kismaayo whether you try using qaraxmajo or Ethiopia.

You on the other hand are always claimming my land and trying to divide Ogaden and put us against each other .So only marexan are allowed to be qabileyste?somaha.like your qabilestey posts.

Committing attrocities in hargeisa,Garoowe,xamar,Juboyinka against other somalis I am talking about massacres committwd in the name of govt.

You folks are weak its time to acknowledge it.You folks are an unappreciative unsatiable people whose only remedy is to use Ceyr karbash strategy on you.till you say samicna wa adacna.
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Django wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:37 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:28 pm
Django wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:21 pm

Marexan was always united reer diini being on the leadership role.what you folks are missing is Ceyr.Apparently they belong to HG clan so do you want to hire them for a day or a month?
Reer Diini is our head and always will be. That's isn't why we are fighting.

You are unrealistic and qabiiliste to the core. You do think we are other Somali clans in DDSi that you bully? We made you into a power that scared Ethiopia. We aren't a clan to be disrespected lightly. Negotiate or we'll fight for a hundred years. Sade is for peace, MX is for war Ina adeer. You pick your poison.
Dude qabileste ah do you see me planning to invade dusamareeb or Beled xaawo?
Do you think we have a communal land ownership policy with marexan?we are not Sade we are Kablalax at least if Harti would claim communal land ownership rights with us because we are closest to each other.But Every clan has its own territoey there is no new land found un occupied after 1960 somalia independence.There is xudud.There was no Gedo before MSB.Bardheere was prediminantly Cawliyahan and Raxaweyn.Lower jubba haba ka hadlin.
Unfortunatly we are not as generoua or as forgiving as Our cawliyahan brethrens.
Mark my words Marexan will never have authority in Kismaayo whether you try using qaraxmajo or Ethiopia.

You on the other hand are always claimming my land and trying to divide Ogaden and put us against each other .So only marexan are allowed to be qabileyste?somaha.like your qabilestey posts.

Committing attrocities in hargeisa,Garoowe,xamar,Juboyinka against other somalis I am talking about massacres committwd in the name of govt.

You folks are weak its time to acknowledge it.You folks are an unappreciative unsatiable people whose only remedy is to use Ceyr karbash strategy on you.till you say samicna wa adacna.
Horta ya tahay? Cawlyahan or MZ I wanna know.
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ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:51 pm
Django wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:37 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:28 pm

Reer Diini is our head and always will be. That's isn't why we are fighting.

You are unrealistic and qabiiliste to the core. You do think we are other Somali clans in DDSi that you bully? We made you into a power that scared Ethiopia. We aren't a clan to be disrespected lightly. Negotiate or we'll fight for a hundred years. Sade is for peace, MX is for war Ina adeer. You pick your poison.
Dude qabileste ah do you see me planning to invade dusamareeb or Beled xaawo?
Do you think we have a communal land ownership policy with marexan?we are not Sade we are Kablalax at least if Harti would claim communal land ownership rights with us because we are closest to each other.But Every clan has its own territoey there is no new land found un occupied after 1960 somalia independence.There is xudud.There was no Gedo before MSB.Bardheere was prediminantly Cawliyahan and Raxaweyn.Lower jubba haba ka hadlin.
Unfortunatly we are not as generoua or as forgiving as Our cawliyahan brethrens.
Mark my words Marexan will never have authority in Kismaayo whether you try using qaraxmajo or Ethiopia.

You on the other hand are always claimming my land and trying to divide Ogaden and put us against each other .So only marexan are allowed to be qabileyste?somaha.like your qabilestey posts.

Committing attrocities in hargeisa,Garoowe,xamar,Juboyinka against other somalis I am talking about massacres committwd in the name of govt.

You folks are weak its time to acknowledge it.You folks are an unappreciative unsatiable people whose only remedy is to use Ceyr karbash strategy on you.till you say samicna wa adacna.
Horta ya tahay? Cawlyahan or MZ I wanna know.
I am cali dheere.

We have made truce with both Kenya and Ethiopia.
We have come back to the roost.

We know your aim so does every ogaden we kept on looking the other side especialy by qunyar socod like Madhoobe.

We have our own hawks.I myself beleive.in spliting JL into two and leaving out Gedo to join Konfur galbeed.
I guess lafta green marexan dude will look after you.
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Django,

You are right sxb. Originally my father's family IS from Shilaabo (my grandfather on dad's side was actually born in Khelaafo; my mom's family is from Wardheer and Galaadi). When my dad was a student in Xamar, he would go and visit my grandfather (his dad) and his uncles all in Shiilaabo area all the way down to Beledweyne and in between visiting his uncles in Qalqalooc, Ulasan, Baarmagoog, Laba Baar, etc.

You know where those uncles ended up? Jubbaland baby! My grandfather traded the dry desert between Shiilaabo to Dhuusamareeb for the Jubba River. He died in Beled-Xaawo (AUN).

If many Marehan no longer live there, waa Alxamdulilah. Cayr and Habar Gidir can keep the scraps we left behind. Recently my mom's family moved some distressed relatives (because of the drought) from Yamaarugley in Galaadi area living next to
MJ/reer Bicidyahan and shipped them to Beerxaani in Lower Jubba. They bought some cows for them from Marehan/Talxe neighbors since having cattle is important in the area. I laughed when they talked about meeting Gaaljecel for the first time. "War waxay yiraahdeen Doqondiid baanu nahay. Ka hor ma maqal!" :lol:

For 150 years, Marehan has been settling the Jubba Valley and I even forsee ALL of Marehan completely ending up in Jubbaland at some point especially with climate change as the areas above become more drought prone and dry.

The one Marehan clan that was the most resistant to migration has always been reer Dalal (Farmaajo is reer Dalal). Even among reer Diini, when my reer Siyaad was founding and settling in Garbahaaray and reer Ugaas Shermaake was taking over Baardheere, reer Dalal never wanted to budge.

Today every reer Dalal I see talks about nothing but building a house in Kismaayo. Even reer Dalal who never wanted to move anywhere south of Caabudwaaq build or buy land only in Kismaayo. Reer Dalal have bought so much land in Kismaayo and Lower Jubba, they probably own 1/3 of the farmland between Kismaayo and Jilib.

So yes, that's Marehan and why Kismaayo and Jubbaland will never be separated from us. Either you accept that and we build two houses instead of fighting over one, or we be in perpetual state of crisis which you will surely lose
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Also what is your fear/obsession with Cayr? My father was born during Lafo Hawiye and our last serious clash was Feero Qumumux.

Lafo Hawiye was a major clash between bah-Xawaadle of reer Diini (my reer Siyaad and reer Warsame especially) and Cayr.

It's barbaric, but bah-Xawaadle literally put Cayr skulls on top of each other like a pyramid as an example. That's why the year my dad was born is called Lafo Hawiye. Abdiqasim Salaad Hassan's father Salaad Boy was killed by Marehan that same year as part of hostilities.

Feero Qumumah was the one time Caydiid mostly with Cayr footsoldiers tried to take over Balanbale (mostly settled by the same bah-Xawaadle of reer Diini).

Col Abdirisaaq Isaaq Biixi (my reer Siyaad Diini uncle) mostly with bah-Xawaadle fighters (reer Siyaad and reer Warsame again) not only halted Caydiid and USC advance but actually chased them back and even took over Guriceel.

Why do you think Caydiid was able to capture Beled-Weyne and Galkaacyo, but never Balanbale or Caabudwaaq?

They call the one time he tried "Feero Qumumuh" because after Col Abdirisaaq Isaaq Biixi defeated his attempt to capture Balanbale, the bah-Xawaadle of reer Diini used trucks and pick ups to run over the USC dead literally pulverizing their lungs.

That's the history behind Cayr and Marehan/reer Diini/bah-Xawaadle.

Yet Marehan and Cayr were able to put that aside and ally for a common aim.

Marehan would help Cayr in the Banana Wars in Lower Shabelle (ask Abdiwahab254 who always blames Marehan for Sacad losing to Cayr in the Banana Wars for control of Lower Shabelle).

In return, Cayr would help Marehan overcome Morgan's SRRC support that had Ethiopia using its puppets to help keep Morgan in Kismaayo.

No one talks about how Marehan helped Cayr dislodge Cismaan Caato from Marka first so Cayr could be in control of the road from Mogadishu to Kismaayo before Marehan moved towards Kismaayo. A number of the warlords in Mog were SRRC and Ethiopia could have easily requested SRRC clients like Qanyare or Muuse Suudi to aid Morgan.

You know why no one talks about what Marehan did for Cayr in the ALLIANCE but just what Cayr did for Marehan? I honestly think its because Somalis have decided Marehan is the main storyline in the alliance and everything outside of that is irrelevant including what Cayr got out of it

Anyways after Abdiqasim Salaad Hassan became President, the relationship got stronger since Abdiqasim was not only Cayr (by blood) but also Marehan (dhaqan, step father, history, and long experience in Siad Barre government).

It was purely a civil war strategy and it achieved its aim. Marehan got Kismaayo and Cayr (who were nothing before the alliance) became strong among Hawiye.

Even at the height of the JVA when Cayr were the strongest they have ever been, this is how the Irirism minded Ismail Cumar Geele described them privately to the US Ambassador according to Wikileaks;
DAS Yamamoto sought and
obtained President Guelleh's agreement to approach the Ayr
clan in Somalia with a view toward tamping down the
violence there and facilitating the reconciliation
process. Guelleh cautioned, however, that the Ayr had very
little real influence in Somalia, and derived much of its
authority from its affiliation with the Marehan.
Guelleh
described Somalia as both complicated and simple, and the
warlords as "dangerous." He also said the warlords will
never accept a central government.
Guelleh responded that in his view, the Ayr do not
have much influence. They originate
from the poorest and most desolate region of Somalia and derive much of their authority from their affiliation with the Marehan. When Said Barre's regime collapsed, he
continued, the Ayr were targeted by the Hawiye and kept a
low profile. After Abdiqasim came to power, the Ayr
re-emerged and many became businessmen. Guelleh stated
that some Ayr are Islamists, such as Dahir Aweys, the head
of Al-Ittihad. Yet without the Marehan, the Ayr are
nothing and remain close to them.
Still, Guelleh said, he
would be willing "to send some messages to them."
The message couldn't have been more accurate.

Cayr put their cards in the ICU and broke the alliance with Marehan that made them relevant.

What was the result?

Cayr went back to being a nobody and hold nothing.

Yet Marehan today is not only holding the Presidency of Somalia, the Vice Presidency of 2/4 of Somalia's federal states, but is clamoring for more power and would be in complete control of Jubbaland if the Kenyan forces were not present.

Your fear/obsession with Cayr makes me laugh like a parent who introduces a scary bed time story to a child and every night the child asks me to look under the bed to make sure the boogeyman isn't there. :lol:
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